Vaccinations before going back to college in the fall

In the US: CDC says heart inflammation cases higher in 16 to 24 year olds

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/1...ter-second-shot.html

Got the email today from our youngest school, they requiring vaccination for fall semester. The good news is other then tuition I will never have to give them dollar.

Someone's been watching Tucker tonight?!:-)   idk what I'll do if my sons school mandates the vaccine

COVID vaccine has turned out to be damn if you do or damn if you don't. 

Another example of how statistics can be twisted into any narrative.  It’s very rare, 1 in 6000.  And it’s not a scientific double blind study, they have no idea how many of those teenagers were pre-disposed to myocarditis prior to the vaccine

This is coming from the Israeli and American governments not a political opinion column. I would consider it a “we’re not sure” warning.

@edcoach posted:

Someone's been watching Tucker tonight?!:-)   idk what I'll do if my sons school mandates the vaccine

I don’t watch cable political news shows. They cause brain damage. I’m watching baseball and reading Flipboard. The stories I posted (one from Israel, one from the CDC) were in my Flipboard news aggregator.

For those that saw the thread title, but didn’t click on the link, the heart symptoms occur within a day or two of the second dose

If your kid has had their second shot and are past a few days and feeling fine, carry on …nothing to see here, enjoy your life…

@RJM posted:

I don’t watch cable political news shows. They cause brain damage. I’m watching baseball and reading Flipboard. The stories I posted (one from Israel, one from the CDC) were in my Flipboard news aggregator.

This was tucker carlsons opening tonight.

Can you share the listed side effects of the MMR vaccine that almost every child needs to go to school? 

My son's school is requiring it. I *think* his summer collegiate league required it as well.

Son's college and Summer league both require it.  Attendence at Summer league is based on "Honor System".

Both my kid's schools are mandating students get the vaccine but are only strongly encouraging faculty to do so......  That is not cool and quite frankly backwards.   Both of mine are fully vaccinated now as of last Saturday (2 weeks past the second shot) and no issues.   Our family has one adult Moderna and one adult with Pfizer and one child Moderna and one with Pfizer.  The "men" have different vaccines from each other and the women have different vaccines too.  We are one big case study without issue....I am also back on mass transit and in NYC a few days a week and we are maskless in the office unless not vaccinated.   

Boy, we really haven't moved forward an inch with regard to politicizing everything about this virus, have we?  Getting our 2021 son vaccinated came up earlier this week as he's roughly 7 weeks away from heading to college to play ball.  The plan was to get him his first dose next week.  Yesterday a friend forwarded me a link to a Rueters/Yahoo article about this latest development, so I passed it along to my highly liberal exwife suggesting we pause plans a little while until more info is known.  Her response was to immediately downplay the significance of the development and then went on to say that once CNN reports on it, she'll take it more seriously.  Now, I am not looking to take shots at liberals or CNN, but if the "tucker carlson angle" is not okay, then neither should the angle my ex is taking.  We've really lost our way when we allow major news outlets and politics to control us like this.  I'm not saying the left or the right is wrong.  I'm saying we're all hanging on WAY too tight to the bonds between Covid and politics.  No, one single person in this country is not to blame.  That's a puddle-deep, lazy argument for quite possibly the most complex problem in decades or longer.

Google it and you'll see a large swatch of news outlets are reporting on this now.  Yes, on both sides of the aisle.  The CDC has scheduled an emergency meeting next week to dig into this.  So I think it's worth letting this one breath a little bit.  There have been a thousand things we "knew" about this virus that we had to un-know the next day.

@3and2Fastball you bring up a very important point about twisting statistics.  It's disgusting, but I see both the left and right pivoting constantly on how they present their data.  Some numbers look radically different when viewed as a whole number versus when they're viewed as a percentage.  One side views Covid deaths in terms of massive whole numbers while the other side uses tiny percentages.  Both are 100% accurate, yet we pretend one is horrifying and the other is negligible.  And vice versa.  Spoiler alert - neither singular focus is right.  The term "rare" runs on a massive sliding scale these days.  Sadly, most of our strongest feelings around Covid and what we're "sure" of, stem from our sick obsession with the the two incredibly divisive factions "representing" us in Washington.  We need to be better than this.

Feels like another "Elephant in the room" thread is about to break out.....

We've really lost our way when we allow major news outlets and politics to control us like this.

Mayhe Tucker Carlson covered this last night as someone else mentioned . But it’s not where I got the information I posted. It came from a science magazine sourcing the Israeli government and another article sourcing the CDC.

I get my news from Flipboard. It’s a news aggregator that combines reported news and left and right opinion.  Given it’s based out of Silicon Valley there is more left leaning information than right leaning. But, there’s plenty of both. They exclude the fringes. There are rarely articles from Breitbart and Mother Jones.

I consider data from two governments at the forefront of Covid to be reported news, not opinion.

@Gunner Mack Jr. posted:

Both my kid's schools are mandating students get the vaccine but are only strongly encouraging faculty to do so......  That is not cool and quite frankly backwards.   Both of mine are fully vaccinated now as of last Saturday (2 weeks past the second shot) and no issues.   Our family has one adult Moderna and one adult with Pfizer and one child Moderna and one with Pfizer.  The "men" have different vaccines from each other and the women have different vaccines too.  We are one big case study without issue....I am also back on mass transit and in NYC a few days a week and we are maskless in the office unless not vaccinated.   

Between my sons and I we have all 3. Being able to go to some NY hockey playoff games and not about testing was also a driving factor . I'm on the subway at least a few times a week at this point. Was throughout last year as well.

283 observed cases of heart inflammation after receiving a second dose of Pfizer.  Two hundred eighty three.  Out of millions and millions of people.  141 million Americans are fully vaccinated

If we take an extremely conservative estimate, and say it’s only 2 million 16-24 year olds who have had 2 doses of Pfizer, that 283 is 0.00014 % of the people

Again.  Nothing to see here

It is literally more dangerous for you to drive to the vaccination site, than get the vaccine.  

(puts on asbestos suit, takes deep breath, walks into this thread)

Listen to 3 and 2. Get the shot.

(leaves quickly)