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Originally posted by TPM:
So you are saying that if he had not had shoulder surgery that he would have been drafted?
I’ll never know if he’d have been drafted or not, but there are other pro venues besides the MLB.
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Where did he go and what was his record in college?
Why should I share that? All you’d do is pick at it trying to make me look foolish and him bad.
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Share. He pitched 4 years in college?
No.
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Just curious. Why do you suppose he had shoulder surgery, overused? Too many cbs too young?
We have a pretty good idea why he needed surgery, and throwing too many cbs had little or nothing to do with it.
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I am going to refer to the pro mindset, I get lots of questions asked about it, especially in how hard did your son throw and how many pitches did he have, etc.
You know what, I had no clue in HS what his velocity was until he hit 90. And I will always tell those that ask to not get caught up in the numbers thing, but rather just keep developing as a pitcher using your FB.
So you really don't know anything much about me at all, other than my philosophy but not anything as to how much importance I feel development is, not necessarily the W.
You can say anything you want to people, but even those parents with the lowest expectations huddle around a radar gun when their son is being “shot”. That’s why I seriously doubt you had “no clue” until he hit 90.
You’d be surprised at how much I know about you, and to tell the truth, since you want to know what my boy’s record was in college, that pretty much tells everyone how much importance you put on a “W”.
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Again ask parents (why they spend) and players who attend big tournies, camps and showcases why they spend lots of $$ if there is no desire to play past HS or college.
What percentage of players do you believe attend big tournaments, camps, and showcases? 0
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Why a team that can't hit over 84 almost won a section championship to me doesn't necessarily mean that they were better pitchers than others who pitch faster and harder. The question asked had nothing to do with having studs on the team or not. We all understand you do not have to be accurate to be good and you don't have to throw hard to be good either in HS, or perhaps college.
That’s correct. But it also doesn’t mean they weren’t better pitchers either.
[/QUOTE]This discussion was, I thought, about reaching the pro level. Therefore, I concur with Bum and others.[/QUOTE]
And there it is. You thought it was about reaching the pro level, and I thought it was about what was most important to teach youngsters. So because we had different understandings of what the discussion was about, of course you’re always right and I’m always wrong.