Verifying Scouting Credentials

There's a guy in Illinois claiming to be a scout who used to be a member of this board. He was pretty much discredited until he departed the board. All he does is a mechanics review of pitchers for a real scout. The guy never pitched. He didn't play baseball past LL. Everything he knows is learned philosophy of mechanics from others. He also gives expensive pitching and hitting lessons.

Anyone can "say" they are a "scout".
If they tell you which team, you can contact MLB & they will forward your inquiry to that teams MLB Area scout. Or just ask them if they are a birddog.
To check a "former player", look them up on BaseballCube.com, or BaseballReference.com Everyone who was drafted & played are listed, where they went to school, trades, stats, etc.

There are several levels, as well. I don't remember all of them, but you could ask fungo, BabaBomber, TRHit...
birddog -lowest level, & where you usually hear claims. They aren't on payroll of MLB.
assoc. scout-not sure if they are the same level as a birddog.

Area Scout-legit, on a teams payroll. They travel a specific territory & may use a "birddog" or 2...usually too busy to coach or teach lessons.

Cross checkers work out of the teams home office.
General Manager- Well, you know what he does!!

Many scouts that run scout teams are paid, some are associate scouts, sometimes called bird dogs (only paid when someone they turn in gets drafted).
Many have cards made, ask for one. You should always check up on anyone who will be coaching your son or giving lessons, scout or no scout.
One of my son's coaches in HS was an associate scout, probably one of he best coaches he ever had, he had his own business, but did scouting for the Cardinals.
I do believe Coach May is an associate scout, he can coach my son anytime.

RJM,

We have a guy here who who teaches the 'blah blah way' (his company's name) and claims to have played pro ball. Yet a check of baseballreference.com and other references (real ex-pro ball players) to check his claims of playing pro ball reveals nothing. He also claims to know Torii Hunter and posted it on his web site along with a picture of him swinging a bat, but when Hunter's friends (who did play pro ball) here found out about it they called him to ask if this the knew this guy. When Hunter said no they told him about the web site and he had his lawyer draft a letter to this guy to remove the picture and any reference to Hunter, which he quickly did.

He continues to perpetrate the fraud and claims to have something like 16 teams associated with his brand from Mass to Hawaii. He has built a pretty solid following around here with the 9U to 12U crowd. He talks up a good story about all these major leaguers he has played with, but he is full of it and unfortunately I found out the hard way because I agreed to put together a 16U team for him a couple of years ago that ended in disaster because of his meddling. This is when I began to suspect there was more to him that met the eye. I subsequently began to discover the truth about him when I met the ex-pro ball player who relayed the story to me about Hunter.

They're are plenty of frauds out there that sound really good, but buyer beware...

Baseball America puts out a directory each year that costs around twenty bucks that has each organizations scouts listed as well as all other executives for each organization. I have the copy from two years ago.

One other thing I forgot to mention in the post above is that many "associate" scouts work as kind of unpaid helpers of the listed scouts and are not listed in the directory.

Great advice already mentioned. There are birddog scouts-assocaite scouts(same thing) which are unpaid but in most cases very helpful to the area scout, then there are part-time scouts which are paid a salary or stipend, then there are area scouts who are full time employees, then regional and national cross-checkers that work out of there homes but do an enormous amount of travel, then there is the asst scouting director and then scouting director. Like already mentioned the baseball america directory is a great place to find a list of all of the area scouts and above, and most of the time a teams part-time scouts will be listed as well. Associate scouts or birddog scouts will not be listed.

You've gotten some good explanations so far. This is an issue that bothers me on several fronts. An associate scout, aka bird dog, is nothing more than an unpaid assistant to help an area scout (also known in some circles as a scouting supervisor) with information on players in a sub-area of his scouting territory. The problem comes about when someone uses this association with an MLB clubs area scout to promote his business. Being an associate scout is the bottom rung of the scouting ladder, and does not convey any authority to represent a club in any manner or make any representations on their behalf. That is part of a standard associate's contract. An associate will be paid a very small amount of money if a prospect he recommends is drafted and signs. Think $100 until the prospect gets to a higher level of minor league ball. In reality, nobody who is serious about working as a associate does it for anything other than the desire to help the players, clubs and their love of the game.

In my opinion, the biggest problem arises when someone who is an associate uses that position to market themselves to players and parents, giving the impression that the player will get better instruction, coaching or opportunities because of the associate scout. Nothing could be further from the truth. The quality of instruction, coaching or opportunities will come about as a result of the abilities of the coach, not because some area scout asked him to help out in his local area. I often see what you're asking about, where someone will advertise "Scout for the New York Yankee.". They most often misuse this to derive greater income by bringing in more customers and charging higher fees to hopeful parents who don't know any better. It most certainly does NOT mean they are better or can help a player to any greater degree than a non-scout who coaches. My peronsal opinion is that this is deceptive advertising.

I say this as someone who is an associate scout for the Baltimore Orioles, and previously with area scouts for two other National League clubs. That, and four quarters will get you a cup of coffee at most places not named Starbucks, woo hoo! Who cares? I run 4 summer teams with approximately 75 players in our organization. I'm sure that probably 3/4 of our players and parents have no idea that I have an assocation with any club other than my summer club, and that's just how it should be. The players don't need to know. It doesn't directly affect them or get them anything that they wouldn't get anyway from me and our other coaches. There are a lot of good assocaites out there who help area scouts do their job, and go mostly un-noticed, and that is the way it should be.

If someone is using their postion as an associate scout to drum up business, rather than relying on their ability to teach the game, peronsally, I'd walk away. I've seen some associate scouts who are absolutely mediocre baseball coaches, but many great baseball coaches who'll never have any formal arrangement with any pro club. I hope this perspective helps.

06catcherdad, I sent you a PM

Not many full-time scouts anymore.

If interested in verifying, check out Baseball Bluebook (there is one for Pro's and another edition for Colleges), The Pro Bluebook's been around since.......1909?

As an example, here's a look at names of the Front Office, baseball operations, Field Ops, Scouting Department, minor leage affiliates.......

And yes, it is considered by many as a living document and thus changes yearly. Much of the info is kept up to date on the Parent Clubs web site.

OBTW: In Maryland, there must be over twenty part-time scouts for the Orioles. And of course the Scouting Departments for each parent club may have different hierarchies, organizational names, and of course Areas of Responsibilities (AOR)

SEATTLE MARINERS
Baseball Club of Seattle, LP
1250 1st Ave South
PO Box 4100 (98194)
Seattle , WA 98134
Team Ph: (206) 346-4000
Team Fax: (206) 346-4300
Ticket Ph: (206) 622-HITS
Website: www.seattlemariners.com
League: American

OWNERSHIP/FRONT OFFICE:
Chairman/CEO: Howard Lincoln
Pres/COO: Chuck Armstrong


BASEBALL OPERATIONS:
(206) 346-4306/Fax 346-4300
Exec VP/GM: Bill Bavasi
VP/Baseball Admin: Lee Pelekoudas
Special Asst to Executive VP/Player Personnel: John Boles, Dan Evans
Special Consultant to GM: Pat Gillick
Administrator, Baseball Ops: Debbie Larsen
Baseball Ops Asst/System Coord: Jim Na


FIELD PERSONNEL:
Mgr: Mike Hargrove
Dougout Coach: Ron Hassey
Pitching Coach: Bryan Price
Batting Coach: Don Baylor
Bullpen Coach: Jim Slaton
Bench Coach: Rene Lachemann
1st Base Coach: Carlos Garcia
3rd Base Coach: Jeff Newman


TRAVEL CLUBHOUSE:
Team Travel Dir: Ron Spellecy
Clubhouse Mgr: Ted Walsh
Visiting Clubhouse Mgr: Henry Genzale
Video Coord: Carl Hamilton
Interpreter: Allen Turner
Head Groundskeeper: Bob Christofferson
Player Rep: Joel Pineiro


TRAINING MEDICAL:
Medical Dir: Dr. Larry Pedegana
Club Physician: Dr. Mitchel Storey
Head Trainer: Rick Griffin
Asst Trainer: Tom Newberg
Strength/Conditioning: Allen Wirtala


PLAYER DEVELOPMENT:
(206) 346-4316/Fax (206)346-4300
VP/Player Dev/Scouting: Benny Looper
Minor League Op Dir: Greg Hunter
Player Dev Dir: Frank Mattox
Player Dev Admin: Jan Plein
Coord Minor League Instruction: Mike Goff
Trainer Coord: Mickey Clarizio
Roving Instructors: Pat Rice (P), Roger Hansen(C), Glenn Adams (H), Darrin Garner(IF)
Strength/Conditioning Instructor: James Clifford
Special Assignment Coaches: Cal McLish, Buzzy Keller, Dave Myers, Norm Charlton


SCOUTING:
VP/Scouting: Bob Fontaine
Special Assignments/Amateur Scouting: Tom Davis
Scouting Asst: Jim Fitzgerald
Scouting Admin: Hallie Larson
Professional Scouting Dir: Ken Compton
Majors Advance: Steve Peck
Majors: Dave Garcia, Bob Harrison, Bill Kearns, Bob Miske, Wayne Morgan,
Chris Pelekoudas, Steve Pope, Tim Schmidt
National Coords: Rick Ingalls, Steve Jongewaard
East Coast Coord: John McMichen
Midwest Coords: Ken Madeja, Carroll Sembera
West Coast Coord: Ron Tostenson
International Ops Dir: Bob Engle
Asst Dir International Scounting: Hide Sueyoshi
Pacific Rim Ops Dir: Ted Heid
Canada/Europe Coord: Wayne Norton
Latin Scouting Supervisor/Venezuela: Emilio Carrasquel
Latin Scouting Supervisor/Dominican Republic: Patrick Guerrero


MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM:
Instruction Coord: Mike Goff
Pitching Coord: Pat Rice
Catching Coord: Roger Hansen
Hitting Coord: Glenn Adams
Strength/Conditioning Coord: James Clifford
Trainer Coord: Mickey Clarizio
Special Assignment Coaches: Dave Myers, Norm Charlton, Cal McLish, Buzzy Keller
Player Education Coord: Al Coons
Employee Assistance Counselor: Bruce Kipper


FARM TEAMS & FIELD PERSONNEL:
TACOMA RAINIERS
AAA – Pacific Coast
Mgr: Dan Rohn
Coach: Terry Pollreisz
Pitching Coach: Rafael Chaves
Trainer: Rob Nodine


SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS
AA – Texas
Mgr: Dave Brundage
Coach: Gary Thurman
Pitching Coach: Dwight Bernard
Trainer: Chris Gorosics


INLAND EMPIRE 66ERS
A – California (Advanced)
Mgr: Daren Brown
Coach: Henry Cotto
Pitching Coach: Scott Budner
Trainer: Andrew Nelson


WISCONSIN TIMBER RATTLERS
A – Midwest
Mgr: Scott Steinmann
Coach: Tommy Cruz
Pitching Coach: Brad Holman
Trainer: Jeremy Clipperton


EVERETT AQUASOX
A – Northwest (Short)
Mgr: Pedro Grifol
Coach: James Horner
Pitching Coach: Marcos Garcia
Trainer: Spyder Webb


PEORIA MARINERS
Rookie - Arizona
Mgr: Dana Williams
Coach: Andy Bottin
Pitching Coach: Gary wheelock
Trainer: Randy Roetter


MARINERS
Rookie - Dominican
Mgr: Juan Castillo
Coaches: R.Mejia/A.Morillo
Pitching Coach: Manuel Marrero
Trainer: Alfonso Tusen


MARINERS
Rookie - Venezuela
Mgr: Jose Moreno
Coach: Angel Escobar
Pitching Coach: Jesus Hernandez
Trainer: Carlos Chourio


SPRING TRAINING:
Peoria Sports Complex (11,000; since 1993)
15707 North 83rd Avenue
Peoria, AZ 85382
Phone/Fax Numbers (Area Code: 623)
Office: 776-4800/Fax 776-4829
PR: 776-4810/776-4811
Press Box: 412-4215
Tickets: (480) 784-4444 (TicketMaster) (www.seattlemariners.com)
Hotel (623) 487-1900
LaQuinta Inn & Suites
16321 N. 83rd Ave
Peoria, AZ 85382
Minor Leagues (623) 776-4800/Fax 776-4828
(same address as majors)
Minors Hotel (623) 486-9918/Fax 486-4842
Hampton Inn
8408 West Paradise Lane
Peoria, AZ 85382


BALLPARK:
Safeco Field (1999)
Capacity: 47,447
Unique: Retractable roof
Surface: grass; home dugout: 1st base
Outfield dimensions: 331-405-326
Tickets: $7 to $50
Directions: from I-5 N, take Spokane St exit (163A), W on Spokane to 1st Ave,
, R on 1st Ave to ballpark; from I-5 S, take Union St exit, W on Union to 1st Ave, L on 1st Ave to ballpark


LOCAL MEDIA:
KOMO 1000 AM
Dave Niehaus, Rick Rizzs, Ron Fairly, Dave Henderson,
Dave Valle, Jay Buhner, Kevin Cremin
KSTW/UPN-11
Fox Sports Net Northwest
Producer: Mark Engelbrekt


BUSINESS OPERATIONS:
General Admin (206) 346-4000
Exec VP/Business Ops: Bob Aylward
Office Services Coord: Ryan Calabrese
Exec VP/Finance/Ballpark Ops: Kevin Mather
VP Finance: Tim Kornegay
Exec Admin Asst: Pam Dwiggins
VP/Comm: Randy Adamack
Baseball Info Dir: Tim Hevly
Broadcast Admin Mgr: Jennifer Langen
Baseball Info Asst: Kelly Munro
Baseball Info Asst: Gillian Hagamen
Corp Business/Sales/Community Relations
VP/Corp Business/Community Relations: Joe Chard
Corp Business Dir: Ingrid Russell-Narcisse
Community Relations Dir: Gina Hasson
Season Ticket Admin Sr. Dir: Frances Traisman
Group/Ticket Sales Dir: Bob Hellinger
Private Suite Sales Dir: Steve Camp
VP/Human Resources: Marianne Short
Payroll/Benefits Admin Mgr: Shirley shreve
VP/Tech Services: Larry Witherspoon
Info Services Dir: David Curry
Exec VP/General Counsel: Clyde MacIver
Ballpark Transportation Services Dir: Susan Ranf
Public Info Dir: Rebecca Hale
Exec. Admin Asst: Wanda Lich
VP/Marketing: Kevin Martinez
Promo Dir: Gregg Greene
Procurement Dir: Sandy Fielder
Merchandise Sr. Dir: Jim La Shell
Retail Merchandise Dir: Julie McGillivary
Retail Stores Dir: Doug Orwiler
VP/Ballpark Ops: Neil Campbell
Sr Dir/Ballpark Ops: Tony Pereira
Ballpark Engineer/Maintenance Dir: Ben Barton
Security/Parking Services Dir: Paul Schieck
Ticket Services Dir: Kristin Fortier

I am not sure of the purpose of the above post, but the San Antonio Missions are the AA affiliate of the San Diego Padres.

TPM,

I wasn't too sure about that post, but it is interesting to say the least. I googled Baseball Bluebook and found the page Bear copied. It was from the 2005 team. I guess it might be counterproductive for them to put out the current information when they are trying to sell it.

quote:

Originally posted by ILDad:
I was wondering if anyone knows the best way to verify if someone is really a pro-scout?

Maybe a response to the original post!
If you don't get it, you don't get it!

Why does Rizzi say those things about your experience!

As another example, this time an on-line example (and they don't list area scouts (either pro or amateur)

BOARD OF DIRECTORS

Chairman/Owner David Glass
President Dan Glass
Board member Ruth Glass
Board member Don Glass
Board member Dayna Martz
Board member Julia Irene Kauffman
Board member Herk Robinson
Board member Dale Rohr

OFFICERS

CEO David Glass
President Dan Glass
Senior Vice President-Baseball Operations/General Manager Dayton Moore
Senior Vice President - Business Operations Kevin Uhlich
Vice President - Baseball Operations/Assistant General Manager Dean Taylor
Vice President - Baseball Operations George Brett
Vice President - Finance & Administration David Laverentz
Vice President - Communications & Broadcasting Michael Swanson
Vice President - Marketing & Business Development Michael Bucek
Vice President - Ballpark Operations & Development Bob Rice
Vice President - Community Affairs & Publicity Toby Cook
General Counsel Dick Nixon
Executive Administrative Assistant (Executive Staff) Ginger Salem

BASEBALL OPERATIONS

Senior Vice President & General Manager - Baseball Operations Dayton Moore
Vice President - Baseball Operations/Assistant General Manager Dean Taylor
Senior Advisor to the General Manager Art Stewart
Senior Advisor to the General Manager Donnie Williams
Senior Advisor to the General Manager/Scouting & Player Development Mike Arbuckle
Assistant to the General Manager Brian Murphy
Special Assistant to the General Manager/International Operations Rene Francisco
Special Assistant to the General Manager/Player Personnel Louie Medina
Special Assistant to the General Manager Pat Jones
Special Assistant to the General Manager Mike Toomey
Coordinator-Professional Scouting Gene Watson
Director - Baseball Administration Jin Wong
Director - Baseball Operations Lonnie Goldberg
Administrative Assistant for Baseball Operations Emily Penning
Administrative Assistant for Baseball Operations Mike Groopman
Video Coordinator Mark Topping
Cultural Development Coordinator/Area Scott Colin Gonzales
Manager-Arizona Operations Nick Leto
Baseball Operations Assistant Kyle Vena
TEAM TRAVEL
Senior Director - Team Travel/Clubhouse Operations Jeff Davenport
SCOUTING & PLAYER DEVELOPMENT
Assistant General Manager - Scouting/Player Development J.J. Picollo
Director - Minor League Operations Scott Sharp
Manager - Scouting Operations Linda Smith

MAJOR LEAGUE SUPPORT STAFF

Team Physician Steven Joyce, M.D.
Associate Physician Tim Badwey, M.D.
Associate Physician Mark Bernhardt, M.D.
Associate Physician Dan Gurba, M.D.
Associate Physician Thomas Phillips, M.D.
Associate Physician Charles Rhoades, M.D.
Associate Physician Lance Snyder, M.D.
Team Chiropractor Patrick Hammond, D.C.
Head Athletic Trainer Nick Kenney
Assistant Athletic Trainer Kyle Turner
Massage Therapist Ken Hurt
Physical Therapist Jeff Blum
Team Psychologist Dr. Andrew Jacobs
Strength & Conditioning Coordinator Ty Hill
Strength & Conditioning Coordinator Ryan Stoneberg
Sports Nutritionist Mitzi Dulan, RD
Assistant Equipment Manager Patrick Gorman
Visiting Clubhouse Manager Chuck Hawke
Visiting Clubhouse Manager Bill Duplissea

BUSINESS OPERATIONS

Senior Vice President - Business Operations Kevin Uhlich
Executive Administrative Assistant Cindy Hamilton

HALL OF FAME

Director - Royals Hall of Fame Curt Nelson
Manager - Tours/Educational Programs Morrie Carlson

FINANCE & ADMINISTRATION

Vice President - Finance & Administration David Laverentz
ACCOUNTING
Director - Finance Adam Tyhurst
Director - Renovation Accounting/Risk Management Patrick Fleischmann
Manager - Accounting Sean Ritchie
Accounts Payable Coordinator Jeannie Kenyon
Accounting Coordinator Shelley Wilson
Purchasing Manager Jeffrey Homant
HUMAN RESOURCES & PAYROLL
Senior Director - Payroll, Benefits & Human Resources Tom Pfannenstiel
Manager - Human Resources Lynne Elder
Payroll Administrator Margaret Willits
INFORMATION SYSTEMS
Senior Director-Information Systems Brian Himstedt
Manager - Programming & Systems Analyst Becky Randall
Manager - Network & Telecommunications Scott Novak
End-User Support Coordinator Mitchell McDaniel
TICKET OPERATIONS
Senior Director - Ticket Operations Larry Chu
Director - Ticket Operations Chris Darr
Vault Services Coordinator Jacque Tschirhart
Ticket Coordinator Charlie Sirridge

COMMUNICATIONS & BROADCASTING

Vice President - Communications & Broadcasting Michael Swanson
BROADCAST SERVICES
Director - Broadcast Services & Royals Alumni Fred White
Manager - Radio Network Operations Don Free
On-Air Announcer - Radio Denny Matthews
On-Air Announcer - Radio Bob Davis
On-Air Announcer - Radio Steve Stewart
On-Air Announcer - Television Ryan Lefebvre
On-Air Announcer - Television Paul Splittorff
On-Air Announcer - Television Frank White
Traffic Manager/Royals Radio Network Tina Short
MEDIA RELATIONS
Director - Media Relations David Holtzman
Coordinator - Media Services Dina Wathan
Coordinator - Communications & Broadcasting Colby Curry

MARKETING & BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT

Vice President - Marketing & Business Development Michael Bucek
MARKETING & PROMOTIONS
Manager - Promotions & Special Events Josh Diekmann
Manager - Online & Target Marketing Erin Sleddens
Coordinator - Marketing Mallory Lutz
EVENT PRESENTATION & PRODUCTION
Senior Director - Event Presentation & Production Don Costante
Director - Event Presentation & Production Chris DeRuyscher
Manager - Event Presentation & Production Ben Mertens
Coordinator - Event Presentation & Production Kasey Schweitzer
Production Coordinator - Event Presentation & Production Todd Kinsey
CORPORATE SALES
Senior Director-Corporate Partnership Sales Mitch Wheeler
Senior Director-Corporate Sponsorship Relations Michele Kammerer
Senior Director-Corporate Partnership-Marketing Kim Burgess
Account Manager - Corporate Sponsorship Sales David Hayob
Account Executive Carl Keenan
ROYALS RADIO NETWORK
Senior Account Executive Bob Stiegler
Play-By-Play Sales Specialist Tony Wrisinger
TICKET SALES & SERVICES
Senior Director - Sales & Service Dawson Hughes

Director - Sales Theodore Hodges
Account Executive-Suite & Premium Seating Joel Kammeyer
Account Executive-Suite & Premium Seating Corey Norkin
Account Executive-Season Tickets & Premium Sales Corey Baker
Account Executive-Season Tickets & Premium Sales Kevin Bell
Account Executive-Group Sales Eddie Gamez
Account Executive-Group Sales Jay Harig
Account Executive-Group Sales Jordan Lopez
Account Executive-Group Sales Sarah Trowbridge

Director - Ticket Services Scott Wadsworth
Associate-Sales Operations Alexandria Janowiak
Associate-Sales Operations Jason Sweet
Representative-Account Services Craig Bates
Representative-Account Services Jeff Close
Representative-Account Services Sarah Mohsen
Administrative Assistant-Season Ticket Sales Janis Rowland

BALLPARK OPERATIONS & DEVELOPMENT

Vice President - Ballpark Operations and Development Bob Rice
EVENT OPERATIONS
Director - Event Operations Renee VanLaningham
Coordinator - Event Operations Keri Feyerherm
Coordinator - Mail Services Larry Garrett
Coordinator - Ballpark Operations Jermaine Goodwin
BALLPARK OPERATIONS
Director - Ballpark Engineering & Maintenance Todd Burrow
Engineer - Audio/Visual Russ Gardner
Lead Mechanical/Technician Joe Vinyard
Lead Carpenter/Painter Rick Bobki
Lead Electrician Robert James
Technician - Ballpark Operations Byron Clark
Technician - Ballpark Operations Bo Cornelius
Technician - Ballpark Operations Chris Frank
Technician - Ballpark Operations Mike Rader
BALLPARK SERVICES
Director - Ballpark Services Johnny Williams
Manager - Ballpark Services Isaac Riffel
Commercial Window Cleaning Specialist Jeff Vinson
FAN SERVICES & HOSPITALITY
Director - Fan Services & Hospitality Carrie Bligh
Coordinator - Telephone Services Kathy Butler
GROUNDSKEEPING & LANDSCAPING
Director - Groundskeeping & Landscaping Trevor Vance
Manager - Groundskeeping Justin Scott
Landscape Assistant Anthony Bruce


PUBLIC RELATIONS

Vice President - Community Affairs & Publicity Toby Cook
Senior Director - Royals Charities Joy Sedlacek
Senior Director - Publicity Lora Grosshans
Director - Community Outreach Betty Kaegel
Coordinator-Community Affairs Amanda Putnam
COMMUNITY RELATIONS
Sr. Director - Community Relations Ben Aken

MLB ADVANCED MEDIA

Director, Club Initiatives Dana Nicole Butcher
Executive Editor - AL/NL Central Bill Hill
Club Reporter Dick Kaegel
Marketing Producer Chris Gerlach
Editorial Producer Chris Shaeffer

T-Dad......Can you guess this correctly?

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Two of the games best catchers in the past ten years signed two year deals this past week.
I think Dayton and JJ did their homework, correctly.
The other....they overpaid $5M ...and for a backup?

The area scouts are not listed on that list for the Mariners. Trust me they have between 15-20 full time area scouts and quite possibly some part time scouts. You can also find a list on most teams web-sites under front office.

Same goes for the Royals post. Pro scouts are usually listed on the teams website under front office.

That's a lot of bandwidth to use as an example (some of it incorrect).

quote:

Originally posted by Bear:

T-Dad......Can you guess this correctly?

Too easy with a right click and a click on Search Google for "Bo Cornelius" or any other lesser known name. Add Royals to the search argument and search again. First hit looks like the answer, Front Office | royals.com: Team.

quote:

Originally posted by TPM:
That's a lot of bandwidth to use as an example (some of it incorrect).

You are wrong. Please offer an apology, stet.
That is if you are able to man up.

Bear

You just got you knuckles rapped once again by "Sister Superior"

LOL

Remember how The Nuns were always right you never went home after a day in school and complained but Dad would tell you "Sister Superior" said it is so !!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Bear:

quote:

Originally posted by TPM:
That's a lot of bandwidth to use as an example (some of it incorrect).

You are wrong. Please offer an apology, stet.
That is if you are able to man up.

No apologies, there were some errors, and still a lot of bandwidth to use as an example.

quote:

Originally posted by TRhit:
Bear

You just got you knuckles rapped once again by "Sister Superior"

LOL

Remember how The Nuns were always right you never went home after a day in school and complained but Dad would tell you "Sister Superior" said it is so !!!!

That's ok, whatever you think TR, but FWIW. I'd rather be who I am than what you are.

Funny that I mentioned the "Sister Superior" aspect in a previous post---today I get a letter from my grade school--Our Lady of Victory--Class of 1955---asking me to join their alumni association---heck there cannot be many left from my class---

It also shows the power of the internet---I have lived in at least a dozen locations since then and they still found me at my current address--I guess Big Brother does exist


TPM
That is your choice--my life is great--I don't know about yours but mine is great and I would not trade it with anyone not even to be a pseudo moderator in a virtual world

quote:

Funny that I mentioned the "Sister Superior" aspect in a previous post---today I get a letter from my grade school--Our Lady of Victory--Class of 1955---asking me to join their alumni association---heck there cannot be many left from my class---

It also shows the power of the internet---I have lived in at least a dozen locations since then and they still found me at my current address--I guess Big Brother does exist.
WHO CARES!


TPM
That is your choice--my life is great--I don't know about yours but mine is great and I would not trade it with anyone not even to be a pseudo moderator in a virtual world

TR you know nothing about me, in fact you know nothing about most of the people who post regularly here or most of their players or their families or even what they do for a living. Watch your comments about why others are here, they are not here for business, nor to put food on their tables. Keep that in mind when you throw stuff out there.