If you already know what the hands are going to do at "go"....because it's the same every time....they swivel....the forearms rotate....the top hand goes from door knocking to bird flipping....meaning rearward....at "go"....can't the body move, prep, organize, whatever, itself, to help make that imminent hand action as explosive or as aggressive as possible?
The question is NOT "what" to do....or "how" to do....or "where" to do.
It is simply "when" to do.
And the running start of the lower body and the running start of the hands (rearward barrel at "go") makes that a whole lot easier to judge.
The "built in" margin for error is large....relatively speaking.
You can actually start the swing (it's actually the preswing but because of the direction of the preswing and because the direction of the actual swing.....away from the ball....rearward....are the same) without commiting.....and then take....or delay....or whatever.
If there was a way to put a "hold" on the barrel of the bat so that while you are in your stance, waiting for the pitch, you could actually "pull" forward on the handle without committing....but then pull harder to yank the barrel out of the "hold" at the precise time.....you could have an instantaneous launch and spend. Assuming the "right" amount of "hold" and the right amount of pressure your timing could be greatly improved.
Problem is.....pitch location. Pulling forward against the "hold" would greatly improve timing...may get it as close to perfect as it can be. But....the direction of the pull would have to be limited by its nature to a small hitzone. You could only hit balls that came into that small zone.
Well....sending the barrel rearward at "go" gives you that same "launch and spend" or "stretch and fire" launch capability....that greatly improved timing....AND it allows you to redirect it's direction for pitch location AFTER launch....if necessary....without degradation of the swing.
That is what high level hitters have learned.
Problem is.....pitch location. Pulling forward against the "hold" would greatly improve timing...may get it as close to perfect as it can be. But....the direction of the pull would have to be limited by its nature to a small hitzone. You could only hit balls that came into that small zone.
Well....sending the barrel rearward at "go" gives you that same "launch and spend" or "stretch and fire" launch capability....that greatly improved timing....AND it allows you to redirect it's direction for pitch location AFTER launch....if necessary....without degradation of the swing.
That is what high level hitters have learned.
PG
Another analogy.
A weight lifter about to do the clean and jerk. He bends over the bar, positions his hands, positions his feet, adjusts his grip, again and again, concentrates, gears up, etc etc.
Those hands have a job to do. His body knows it. It preps itself for the upcoming task. Then suddenly.....BOOM.....its done.
The same thing with the hitter with high level mechanics. His handset is placed, his grip is adjusted, his feet are placed, his stance is set....then at "go"....BOOM....the handle torque is applied sending the barrel rearward.
One more time. Look at Bonds. The launch of each of these swings is very very similar regardless of pitch location and the ending point of the swing. The adjustment is made by redirecting the already arcing barrel.
Bonds
The point of this thread is NOT as much what the hands do (although few hitters do the right thing with them) and NOT what the hips do but WHEN they do it and in what sequence.
You are right. The hands are the "go" move.
And others are right. The hips move first. But they are dead wrong about the hips being the "go" move.
The attempt at teaching "hips first" leads to the PCR/PCRW spin pattern....not the high level mlb pattern. You must teach the proper hand action and the body will fall into place.
Shorthand...........THE RUNNING START. Of both.
Another analogy.
A weight lifter about to do the clean and jerk. He bends over the bar, positions his hands, positions his feet, adjusts his grip, again and again, concentrates, gears up, etc etc.
Those hands have a job to do. His body knows it. It preps itself for the upcoming task. Then suddenly.....BOOM.....its done.
The same thing with the hitter with high level mechanics. His handset is placed, his grip is adjusted, his feet are placed, his stance is set....then at "go"....BOOM....the handle torque is applied sending the barrel rearward.
One more time. Look at Bonds. The launch of each of these swings is very very similar regardless of pitch location and the ending point of the swing. The adjustment is made by redirecting the already arcing barrel.
Bonds
The point of this thread is NOT as much what the hands do (although few hitters do the right thing with them) and NOT what the hips do but WHEN they do it and in what sequence.
You are right. The hands are the "go" move.
And others are right. The hips move first. But they are dead wrong about the hips being the "go" move.
The attempt at teaching "hips first" leads to the PCR/PCRW spin pattern....not the high level mlb pattern. You must teach the proper hand action and the body will fall into place.
Shorthand...........THE RUNNING START. Of both.
This guy does things pretty well.....in his own style.
That poor catcher - you can almost feel the disgust as to the location of the pitch.
A Meata - Balla - as they say in my hometown.
A Meata - Balla - as they say in my hometown.
NICE GAME FL FAN'S SON!!! Team Adidas wins opening game!!!
WP: Dillon Vitale (TA) 3 innings, 4 hits, 1 run, 0 BB's, 2 K's
LP: Kyle Thornton (AS) 1/3 inning, 2 runs
SV: Robby Powell (TA) 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 K's
RF Oorey Reed (AS) 1-3, 2B, SS Bryan Vollmuth (AS) 1-2, BB, 2B, run; RHP Keyvious Sampson (TA) 3 inning, 0 hits, 0 runs, 3 BB's, 3 K's; LPH Phillip Byrd (AS) 3 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 2 BB's, 5 K's; LHP Mitch Hopkins (AS) 2 2/3 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, 1 BB, 4 K's; EH Ryan McChesney (TA) 2-3, Rbi;3B Eric Grabe (TA) 1-3, HR, run, RBI
WP: Dillon Vitale (TA) 3 innings, 4 hits, 1 run, 0 BB's, 2 K's
LP: Kyle Thornton (AS) 1/3 inning, 2 runs
SV: Robby Powell (TA) 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 K's
RF Oorey Reed (AS) 1-3, 2B, SS Bryan Vollmuth (AS) 1-2, BB, 2B, run; RHP Keyvious Sampson (TA) 3 inning, 0 hits, 0 runs, 3 BB's, 3 K's; LPH Phillip Byrd (AS) 3 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 2 BB's, 5 K's; LHP Mitch Hopkins (AS) 2 2/3 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, 1 BB, 4 K's; EH Ryan McChesney (TA) 2-3, Rbi;3B Eric Grabe (TA) 1-3, HR, run, RBI
Thanks Shep! Opposite field too!
Your son has a good load, good torque with his hips and his hand path isnt all that bad either but tell him to remember to finish through the baseball just like albert puljos in that video and for those pitches that appeared away from him and he seemed to be a lil off balance well that because he needs to let the ball away from him travel deeper and not be trying to hit everything so far out in front... hey kid i know pulling is important but good hitters are only good hitters when they are using the whole field.
Thanks 5 Tools. He does work on hitting oppo, and consistent with your advice he works on letting the ball get "deeper". He actually hits well oppo, but does seem to reach a bit too much and can lose his powerline. He did hit 2 HR's at the WWBA in Jupiter, both were opposite field, but I believe he could have hit them better if he had maintained his powerline better, let the ball get just a bit deeper.
Thank you for your analysis though, you ideas are consistent with what we are trying to work on.
Thank you for your analysis though, you ideas are consistent with what we are trying to work on.
flafan,
Hows's the son doing?
Anyone else notice what was absent from this thread?
Hows's the son doing?
Anyone else notice what was absent from this thread?
What is missing???????
Have his hitting coach look at his starting hand position.
They looks a little high to me.(if you are looking for faster reaction time to the ball)
respectfully yours,
drill
PS - disclaimer -- this was free advice, please take it for what its worth.
They looks a little high to me.(if you are looking for faster reaction time to the ball)
respectfully yours,
drill
PS - disclaimer -- this was free advice, please take it for what its worth.
Hey Loose Cannon,
My guy is in Australia with Bob Williams and the Goodwill games. He will be there until January 2nd.
He is having a great time, playing great baseball. We are looking forward to an enjoyable senior year!
My guy is in Australia with Bob Williams and the Goodwill games. He will be there until January 2nd.
He is having a great time, playing great baseball. We are looking forward to an enjoyable senior year!
That's great to hear.
quote:Originally posted by Loose Cannon:
That's great to hear.
maybe try incorporating a little step in the stride and get him off his back foot a little ,,
Eric has has very short swing which will be beneficial as he faces more velocity.
Make sure he uses the entire field because as he moves up the pitchers will have better command and can pitch to a hitters weakness.
Keep Hackin!
Jalal Leach
Baseball Mentoring Program
www.bmp18.com
Make sure he uses the entire field because as he moves up the pitchers will have better command and can pitch to a hitters weakness.
Keep Hackin!
Jalal Leach
Baseball Mentoring Program
www.bmp18.com
Thanks for your comments. Typically he hits to all fields, but because he tends to let the ball get deep in the zone takes a lot the opposite way.
Thank you again for your kind words.
Thank you again for your kind words.
Is the website you put his video on free? I would like to do that for my son.
You have a PM
