Wa-ng - Cy Young?

This looks like a good list to me. Nobody will touch A-Rod this year for MVP. Fausto Carmona for Cleveland also deserves consideration for Cy Young.

Looks like a good list to me. But am I dumb or what? Is WA-NG a dirty word or something????

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
Looks like a good list to me. But am I dumb or what? Is WA-NG a dirty word or something????

You would have to ask Bob Howdeshell that question PG Is soc-cer a dirty word?

That's ironic that VVang is considered so not pc since they were one of the first companies to make a PC!

It is a good list. Wa*ng takes a very close back seat to Beckett though. Beckett has twice the K's and 0.38 lower ERA and the same wins. Wakefield has had a career year and Carmona has also. Arod is a runaway MVP. He hit a bomb in left last night that could be the hardest ball hit this year. Wan*g's teammates know they have a good chance to win with him up. Without him they miss the playoffs by a mile.

I like your list but I think the NL MVP will be determined if the Brewers can win the NL Central. If they hold on Prince Fielder gets the MVP nod if they don't hold on then I can see David Wright getting it. Either one is a great choice though.

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Originally posted by Dad04:
Wa*ng takes a very close back seat to Beckett though.

I'm a die-hard Yankees fan but agree with you 100%. Beckett deserves it.

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Originally posted by Beezer:

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Originally posted by Dad04:
Wa*ng takes a very close back seat to Beckett though.

I'm a die-hard Yankees fan but agree with you 100%. Beckett deserves it.

Wa*ng hasn't had to pitch to the...Yankees either.

One of the differences between Wa-ng and Beckett is that Beckett has a better staff to pick him up. For Wa-ng it has been his role to be the stopper. His support is not as dependable.

Why is Peavy pitching on three days rest. The Padres have a pretty good hold on the division or the wildcard, why are they acting desperate? I don't understand this move. I understand why Peavy ask but Bud Black has to be smarter than that.

Yes if the Brewers win Fielder should be considered, but is Braun the MVP of that team?

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Originally posted by Dad04:
Wa*ng hasn't had to pitch to the...Yankees either.

Good point.

At last check the Yankees were in second place. Maybe that should read that Beckett has not had to pitch against the first place Red Sox.

I would agree if the Red Sox lead baseball in offense. The Yankees lead baseball in nearly every offensive catagory. The Red Sox are fifth behind the Mariners Tigers and Angels.

ML Offense Stats

Dad those pesky stats, you are not going to rely on them are you? Heck just facing Arod alone gets you a couple extra votes.

deldad I like stats....sometimes. Wa-ng has thrived in a situation where nearly everyone else has been poor to average. He has been the Lone Ranger for the Yankees. He gets the Yankee CY.

I have watched both multiple times. Wangs command is impeccable. Becketts stuff is better, imo and save a few ill-timed 3 run bombs, his ERA would be under 3.00. Becketts stuff is dominatingly strong.

Becketts k:bb ratio is nearly 3 times higher. Both get the job done. Beckett would win a bunch for any team now.

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Originally posted by deldad:
Yes if the Brewers win Fielder should be considered, but is Braun the MVP of that team?

I think that is a good observation but I would classify Braun as the hottest player but not the most important.

Fielder gets the best every pitcher can give - he is an established threat. I want to see what Braun can do once the NL has really had a chance to scout him.

Coach once you've played maybe 25 games I would bet that there is a good book on you. I think Braun is for real. He benefits from Fielder. As far as hottest player, I think you have to give that to Ankiel. He may single handedly bring the Cards into contention.

Dad, Beckett's stuff is filthy. And the stats are in his favor by far. I just like the **** story. You pay 28 mil for Clemens and the east coast bias media talks about every pitcher on the staff except
Wa-ng. Also, this is the second year in a row that he has been the ace of the staff with little or no attention. Honestly, I would like to see Wakefield win it. My 13 yo throws harder than Wake, I would love to see him get it. Wake is still pitching and ABoone is nowhere in baseball. Ironic isn't it?

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Originally posted by Dad04:
Becketts k:bb ratio is nearly 3 times higher. Both get the job done. Beckett would win a bunch for any team now.

He'd look awesome in pinstripes.

How bout 2 for 1?

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Originally posted by Dad04:
How bout 2 for 1?

Let me think about that one for a second. Ummmm.... NO!!!!!

Besides, The Boss will lure him over to the dark side eventually. Mwahahahaha

(Why isn't Jeter holding his cap like the other two? Didn't he get the memo?)

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Besides, The Boss will lure him over to the dark side eventually. Mwahahahaha

Probably when they are both using walkers.

I think Beckett answered any questions in the head to head Saturday night.

A rod has the MVP wrapped up.

Peavey has the Cy Young in the NL wrapped.

Only issue left is the MVP for the NL?

Anybody stick out? I like David Wright at this time.

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Originally posted by deldad:
I think Beckett answered any questions in the head to head Saturday night.

A sad day. But at least they won last night too.