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I forgot to add that President Nichols letter is excellent. But, what else would you expect from a University President?

By the way, I'm wrong about Political Correctness being the ultimate oxymoron. I've always thought that the term "Religious War" was in incredibly oxymoronic term. Those who start war in the name of God are the ultimate morons. Sorry if that offends any of our muslim readers, but that is how I see it. Killing other people in God's name is actually way beyond moronic. PC still ranks right up there, though.
Impressive, thoughtful letter. One can only hope the new president of local Indiana University of Pennsylvania (IUP), Dr. Tony Atwater, can cut and paste and send. Long live the Indiana (we'll have to change the name of our town, too!) INDIANS!

ARROWS through the heart of political correctness and the DEMISE of common sense!

PAmom
Indiana (named FOR native Americans), PA
PAMOM

Do we have to change the name of the State of Indiana now????

This is quite confusing-- the Seminoles in Florida are cool but other tribes are not--and Indians can own casinos while Italians cannot !!! what is that all about!!! We have a casino in CT owned by a tribe with under 400 family memebers--I know Italian families with more members than that !!
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by sox: It sure beats "Indians" a term which has been used to degrade the Native American culture
nole, now my native american friends are "NAIVE" americans - as you label their term "Indian" as derrogatory??



TR - ALL italian families have over 400 members, but they are always at dinner so could never count casino proceedsSmile



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BEE

You do like the Indians do--hire others to work for them

This entire "mascot thing" is so stupid--why is one tribe better than others--obviously the Seminoles have agreat "business deal" in Florida so they are KEWL

Why do people have to find some ethnic BS in everything and those that do usually have skeltons in their closet

I know I look at it all in positive vein-- they are being honored by being named as a mascot
The letter was brilliant. But as a service to the people who run the NCAA, I'd like to offer a translation:


Why do Italians always seem to own cement factories?

Why does every Oriental restaurant advertise no MSG? I can't care if they don't have cable.

Why are the Irish always depicted as drunk? I don't need to drink to be wild.

Why do college seem to think it's OK to name their teams after animals? I mean, Radar was right: Animals are people, too.

Lighten up, Francis!

There are plenty of real issues in college athletics. Do something constructive for a change.
After 200 years of teaching children that Columbus discovered America, I applaud the NCAA for their efforts to properly educate college students on one of the great tragedies in American history. Prior to the 15th century it is estimated that 20 million native peoples lived in North America. They had an advanced society with a diverse agricultural, religious and social structures. By the time the Pilgrims arrived less than 1 million survived. After that time, a series of genocidal acts forced them from their lands, systematically eliminated their culture and for generations forced them to the periphary of American society. The fact that they have in recent years used the American system to enforce their treaties which gave them soveriegnty over their native lands (on which they built casinos) and their new found economic power to lobby for the respect that was stolen from them is a small price to pay for their greviances. What can be more important than to teach our future leaders the truth about our historical treatment of other peoples. If history is not learned, we are doomed to repeat it. They are after all Student-athletes.
First, OldVaman, Italians don't all seem to own cement factories. We all own GARBAGE COMPANIES, that is; we did before we sold them to BFI or Waste Management.

Second, one of my good friends is a CREE Indian who lives on a reservation in Montana. He, and the other members of the tribe that I've come to know, all get a good chuckle out of how society wrings its hands over how to refer to the Indians. They call themselves Indians, and think that "Native Americans" are the Indians that live in cities. They are proud to call themselves Indians, but are more proud to be CREE. Great guys that I've had a lot of fun with!
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