What comes next and when does the money become available?

Pel - The money is applied when a student actually attends the school - it will be credited to his account.

There is no way to know when an offer will be made. Many schools may recruit your son without actually making an offer. On the other hand, depending on interest, he could have several make an offer at any point now. Have any of these schools requested transcripts, scheduled visits, discussed his options, etc. Those are some things that usually happen before offer.

They have all requested transcripts. Does scholarship money get allocated to the school at certain times each year? No official visits but a few want him to go and look at the school and campus. Thanks!

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Originally posted by pelotasalivar:
They have all requested transcripts. Does scholarship money get allocated to the school at certain times each year? No official visits but a few want him to go and look at the school and campus. Thanks!

The school/athletic department makes the scholarships available and the coaches then do the allocation among the recruits. Pretty likely that no later than July 1 of this year, the coaching staff knew how much scholarship money they had available to offer for the 2006 class although some additional might become available later if there are transfers out and the like.

Pelot - Usually the first thing they will do is ask for transcripts, so that's good that's done. If the schools are where you can reasonably visit, then go ahead. This shows each school that son has interest and gives you some information needed to know if you would want to waste an official visit later on if offered. We never scheduled unofficial visits - just showed up.

InfieldDad is correct, of course, on the money. They know their total pool of money, but they don't know what recruits will say yes (they might offer one kid 60% and he says no - that could free up two 30% offers), what kids may leave after school starts, etc.

I appreciate the info, just wondering he is still on the radar as far as the process goes!

At son's school, all money is allocated approximately a month before the bill is due each semester and applied to the balance owed.
Son's money was allocated in mid july and final bill was due approx Aug 15th. Any credits can be directly applied to student's checking account or sent home.
If you are getting a loan fron the government make sure you have applied in time to have funds allocated, which usually are directly given to the school, private loans are given directly to you.

pelotasalivar -
This is information should be provided to you by your son's recruiting coordinator or financial aid office the summer before school starts. We've found in talking with other baseball parents that the time-line seems to varied by school and the process differs greatly by the type of scholarship you received. But your son's college should give you all these details once his NLI's is signed ... if not, go ahead and ask them for a financial time-line.
Example: At son's school the baseball scholarship funds for tuition are paid direct, no actual deposits are made, and it happens right before registration day. All other funds are either paid direct or put into the students account (depending on whether the scholarship covers 100% or not) on the first day of class. Any deposits required earlier (for housing, dining plan, etc.) are waived for a player who had these items specifically covered in their package. Others are required to pay the $'s up-front, before the scholarship funds are posted. All this stuff really depends on the school's procedures. Hope this helps!

Perhaps I did not explain my original question properly - what I was trying to ask was when does the school receive their scholarship money - January each year, July each year? I was wondering how this affects the process. What else should we do to increase activity if possible? Thanks for all of the replys!

Pelot - What do you mean by when does the school receive the money? The school is the one "giving" the money and it is disbursed depending on school policy, what the scholarship is, etc.

I believe they get 11.7 baseball scholarships but where and when does the money come from?

Pelot - A DI school is allowed to "fund" up to 11.7 scholarships. This money comes out of their own athletic scholarship fund. The school puts the money there themselves. That's why a school may fund all 11.7 or they may only fund or allow baseball to give out a total of perhaps 5 scholarships. That is why some schools have more money than other schools. It's up to each individual school and their budget as to what to allow for scholarships (but no more than 11.7 if DI) just as say what they put into salaries for instructors.

Right - it's not like the NCAA is doling out scholarship money to schools twice a year for their use or something. When the bank decides to give you a loan, they don't have to wait for the funds - they already have the funds. Same with DI.

I think that is what i am trying to get at - if a coach uses most of their money prior to a certain date, will he wait until next year until they make another move when the budget is replenished? thanks for all the input!

Maybe some basics on this will help.
1. A DI program can fund up to 11.7 scholarships and many fund less and some fund none.
2. They do not have 11.7 per year. They have 11.7 total to spread through entire roster. Most years a fully funded program will only have 3-4 full scholarships max to divide among incoming recruits.
3. Some players leave the program/school during the school year and if that happens, that scholarship money can then be distributed by the coach or not as he see fit...for that year.
4. Athletic scholarships are year to year and have to be renewed annually. A player can be on scholarship one year and not have it renewed the next.
5. If a coach has a total of 3 scholarships available now for committment to 2006 recruits, once that amount is committed, there is no more until a player on scholarship gives up that scholarship, graduates or signs in the draft or the school fails to renew it. At that point, there is then scholarship money available for the following year.
Hope this helps.

There is no general across the board rule for this situation

Not all coaches handle it the same

As for being or not being on the radar screen that can be the 69 dollar question-- sone caoches you can read others you can't

Just keep doing what youa re doing and stay on top of eveything==a call from your son to the coach might also help

pelota,
in response to your question about scholarship money

**this is a simplification - - -

MONEY ONLY BECOMES AVAILABLE WHEN PLAYERS LEAVE


when school starts there is NO MONEY - - it is all in use by the existing players

recruiting is done with MONEY EXPECTED TO BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE as players graduate, transfer, get cut, or go pro


soo, coaches recruit using what money they GUESS will be available when the recruited player arrives on campus - the better coaches become very good guessers, and are able to make last minute adjustments when somthing unexpected happens


hope that helps

Chairman

What do you base your info on?

mr Hit,
I based my response on experience, is there something I said that you believe is off base??

Chairman

Would you share with us your experience--

mr hit,
having gone thru recruiting several years ago with my oldest son I asked the same type of questions of several coaches and what I posted above summarizes their response in a simplified form. several reponses were very good as well. anyway my other one is a 2011 and he already knows more about the game than me, lol

if something is in error I'd be happy to correct it, otherwise I'm just trying to help the gentleman asking the question - is there some type of test I have to pass to respond? if so can you provide the link to it?

or, I could try to simplify it more for you if need be

Coaches do not "guess'how much money they have available--they know in advance what will be available and sometimes it is even more when a kid gets drafted who is not expected to get drafted or another kid(s) leaves school

mr hit;
that's why I don't post alot, I visit this site to learn, offer an occasional opinion, not to argue or **** up a rope

yes, coaches do "know" what will be available next yr

and as you noted, they are most often WRONG due to how their incoming freshman class is affected by the draft (more money if some go pro or JC), and also whether drafted upperclassmen with eligibility return to school or go pro (less money if some come back)

Def. "To make an estimate or conjecture" ie, GUESS

their consensus also was it is "unfortunate planning" to have very much money left to only split up once school starts, when their goal was to get player(s) with that money.

so they also sometimes "guessed" that some highly regarded player(s) likely would never get to their campus and used part/all of that money on other player(s), causing a bit of "creativity" if they actually arrived

same thing with occsionally guessing wrong about a drafted Jr returning

these were coaches in the Big 10, Big East, and MAC, so my "guess" is they're somewhat typical



but, again, I was simplifiing it in response to mr salovar