"Been running a little slow, I think I'll give my dentist a call now."
"Been running a little slow, I think I'll give my dentist a call now."
"Been running a little slow, I think I'll give my dentist a call now."
Next race in 10 minutes.
Its a fantasy race.
Its Barry Bonds vs. Secretariat.
Match race.
Make your bets before the windows close.
Its a fantasy race.
Its Barry Bonds vs. Secretariat.
Match race.
Make your bets before the windows close.
I'll take Secretariat to show.
Bonds to place.
Aaron & Ruth to "WIN" in the minds of baseball lifers!
peace
shep
Bonds to place.
Aaron & Ruth to "WIN" in the minds of baseball lifers!
peace
shep
quote:Originally posted by infielddad:
It might be the only way to deal with everything that went on in the past is to take a strong stand going forward.
IFD,
I understand what Beezer is saying. How can you signal one person out when most likely there were a whole lot more doing the same thing.
The only way to move forwards is to stop thinking backwards. However, the players have protected their own for not allowing proper testing. What's the solution?
And we're off!!!
Its Bonds quickly out of the gate and off to a good start. Secretariat right on his tail. Its Bonds approaching the first turn and taking the inside rail. Bonds now a full 2 lengths ahead of Secretariat. Both horses running smoothly and without effort. Its Bonds picking up the pace now approaching the half mile.
Secretariat now 3 lengths behind but beginning to make his move.
Secretariat moving fast but now laboring a bit. Inching to 1 and 1/2 lengths around the half mile pole. Both setting a blistering pace at :48 seconds. But here comes Bonds. He is picking up the pace.
Bonds is blazing along! Now at the 3/4 pole - The first three-quarters of a mile in 1:09 and four fifths. Bonds is widening now!
He is moving like a TREMENDOUS machine! Bonds by 12, Bonds by 14 lengths on the turn! Secretariat is dropping back.
Bonds is all alone!
He's out there almost a 16th of a mile away from Secretariat! Bonds is in a position that seems impossible to catch. He's into the stretch. Bonds leads by 18 lengths.
They're in the stretch. Bonds has opened a 22-length lead! He is going to be the winner! Here comes Bonds to the wire. An unbelievable, an amazing performance! He hits the finish 25 lengths in front!
Barry Bonds - the winner!
You go Barry - You go!
LOL
Its Bonds quickly out of the gate and off to a good start. Secretariat right on his tail. Its Bonds approaching the first turn and taking the inside rail. Bonds now a full 2 lengths ahead of Secretariat. Both horses running smoothly and without effort. Its Bonds picking up the pace now approaching the half mile.
Secretariat now 3 lengths behind but beginning to make his move.
Secretariat moving fast but now laboring a bit. Inching to 1 and 1/2 lengths around the half mile pole. Both setting a blistering pace at :48 seconds. But here comes Bonds. He is picking up the pace.
Bonds is blazing along! Now at the 3/4 pole - The first three-quarters of a mile in 1:09 and four fifths. Bonds is widening now!
He is moving like a TREMENDOUS machine! Bonds by 12, Bonds by 14 lengths on the turn! Secretariat is dropping back.
Bonds is all alone!
He's out there almost a 16th of a mile away from Secretariat! Bonds is in a position that seems impossible to catch. He's into the stretch. Bonds leads by 18 lengths.
They're in the stretch. Bonds has opened a 22-length lead! He is going to be the winner! Here comes Bonds to the wire. An unbelievable, an amazing performance! He hits the finish 25 lengths in front!
Barry Bonds - the winner!
You go Barry - You go!
LOL
ITS, By a Nose.
Bringing up the rear??
Is, ( Hoof Hearted ).
Say that 3 time's fast.
EH
Bringing up the rear??
Is, ( Hoof Hearted ).
Say that 3 time's fast.
EH
Oh the excitement of it all! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge5LCzxykpM
Woody - here is the real deal of the greatest athletic performance I have ever witnessed. IMO
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xoFquax2F-k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xoFquax2F-k
infielddad has a great point. how many young kids rehabed old school? when all they had to do was pony up to the bar a get a shot of hgh. i'm a little unsure of the message they sent to the young players. but from what i see mlb is like a shet sandwhich ,the more bread you've got the less shet you have to eat. it just ain't right.
Secretariat, was the most awesome horse.
One thing Different about Secretariat, then other Horses.
Most Horses will run Each quarter The Same Our slightly slower at the End.
Secretariat would run each Quarter mile Faster then the next,
Upon his death, they found that his Heart was twice as big as a normal race horse.
A tremendous Pump.
EH
One thing Different about Secretariat, then other Horses.
Most Horses will run Each quarter The Same Our slightly slower at the End.
Secretariat would run each Quarter mile Faster then the next,
Upon his death, they found that his Heart was twice as big as a normal race horse.
A tremendous Pump.
EH
And therein lies the cryptic message.
Heart - and character - are the ingredients of real heroes.
Not money and drugs.
You can take all the drugs in the world - and get your top-notch lawyers and public relations reps to talk your way out of it - and continue to make your millions - but that will never make you a true champion.
Only heart and character will make you a true champion.
IMO.
Heart - and character - are the ingredients of real heroes.
Not money and drugs.
You can take all the drugs in the world - and get your top-notch lawyers and public relations reps to talk your way out of it - and continue to make your millions - but that will never make you a true champion.
Only heart and character will make you a true champion.
IMO.
quote:Cle Plain Dealer:
"MLB officials, as of Monday, had still not talked to Byrd about his use of HGH."
The report that came out says Jose Guillen, Matt Williams and Ismal Valdez all had their HGH perscriptions from the same Fl Dentist as Byrd.
Win, Place, and Show.
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Heart - and character - are the ingredients of real heroes.
Not money and drugs.
You can take all the drugs in the world - and get your top-notch lawyers and public relations reps to talk your way out of it - and continue to make your millions - but that will never make you a true champion.
Only heart and character will make you a true champion.
IMO.
Brilliant opinion. In my opinion.
its,
Thanks for that link to the clip showing Secretariat's astonishing victory at the Belmont Stakes back in '73. That truly was an amazing display.
And the comments following the clip were interesting...
My first time seeing secretariat glide through the track. Simply amazing. Really, eye opening.
To this day, though, my favorite horse is Afleet Alex. However, seeing these three amazing races by Secretariat, I have to say he is bested. Secretariat, is the super freak horse. No other horse can compare. A genetic perfection on all levels. If there can be such a thing. Afleet Alex is great. Secretariat is out of this world.
"SECRETARIAT IS MOVING LIKE A TREMENDOUS MACHINE"...Great call from Dave Johnson...I still get goosebumps watching and listening to this call..Still has the record..No other horse has broken 2:25.
i feel bad for poor sham. he could have been a triple crown winner...but he was racing against one of the greatest race horses of all time...it was just bad timing for poor sham. both of those horses had huge hearts compared to the others...sham had an 18 lb heart, which is twice the size of a normal heart...and secretariat had a 22 lb heart which is the biggest on record.
And I agree with playbaseball concerning your last comment...indeed, brilliant opinion!
Thanks for that link to the clip showing Secretariat's astonishing victory at the Belmont Stakes back in '73. That truly was an amazing display.
And the comments following the clip were interesting...
My first time seeing secretariat glide through the track. Simply amazing. Really, eye opening.
To this day, though, my favorite horse is Afleet Alex. However, seeing these three amazing races by Secretariat, I have to say he is bested. Secretariat, is the super freak horse. No other horse can compare. A genetic perfection on all levels. If there can be such a thing. Afleet Alex is great. Secretariat is out of this world.
"SECRETARIAT IS MOVING LIKE A TREMENDOUS MACHINE"...Great call from Dave Johnson...I still get goosebumps watching and listening to this call..Still has the record..No other horse has broken 2:25.
i feel bad for poor sham. he could have been a triple crown winner...but he was racing against one of the greatest race horses of all time...it was just bad timing for poor sham. both of those horses had huge hearts compared to the others...sham had an 18 lb heart, which is twice the size of a normal heart...and secretariat had a 22 lb heart which is the biggest on record.
And I agree with playbaseball concerning your last comment...indeed, brilliant opinion!
quote:Originally posted by RJM:Agreed. Also did these players obtain HGH during a time it was on the banned list or not?quote:Originally posted by Bee>:
only a knucklehead would cut him loose, throw him under the bus, THEN find out he's innocent
jmo, but a good one
According to this http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/format/memos20051109?memo=1991&num=1 it was banned and any player found using since 1991 is subject to expulsion from the game unless he had a prescription and was using under the direct supervision of the team physician.
quote:Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:quote:Originally posted by infielddad:
It might be the only way to deal with everything that went on in the past is to take a strong stand going forward.
IFD,
I understand what Beezer is saying. How can you signal one person out when most likely there were a whole lot more doing the same thing.
The only way to move forwards is to stop thinking backwards. However, the players have protected their own for not allowing proper testing. What's the solution?
TPM, by now I think there are enough players to suggest the "one person" defense is questionable.
But my focus in starting this thread was not on Byrd.
My real question is what message are the Indians and MLB sending by this signing. It may be Bud and MLB are "helpless" in dealing with Byrd, Donald and the union.
But MLB can certainly, through it's governing rules and huge PR machine, send a strong message to it's member clubs, just like they do on that societal evil, the draft, where they "strongly encourage" "slot" money.
Since they have not even bothered to speak with Byrd, that sends the message.
Since they don't have a comment on this signing, that sends a message.
The NFL sent a strong message to it's players.
MLB and the Indians, IMO, are sending an equally strong and opposite message. The message is the use of performing enhancing drugs, is to be tolerated and even rewarded. It would appear the clear message of MLB and it's clubs is that the only thing that matters is $$$$$, not the integrity of the game or it's players, at least to this point.
Maybe things will change, but the silence is sure deafening.
I see no message being sent---Byrd can pitch and there are not many solid pitchers around---
infielddad,
Well put!
Well put!