When will they learn

If they haven't gotten by now, they probably never will!
GED10DaD

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Originally posted by GunEmDown10:
If they haven't gotten by now, they probably never will!
GED10DaD

It's the society we live in today. The lack of discipline and accountability!!

Endorsement Nazi: No endorsements for you!

Otherwise I expect purchase of Sizemore posters to go through the roof with female consumers. Is Sizemore planning on running for governor someday? He may have captured the female vote.

For what it's worth, and those who care, there's a rumor her mother may have released the pictures to gain publicity for her daughter. She was a Playmate last year.

Is this the pic you guys are talking about? I would be embarassed too!!!

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Originally posted by TRhit:

In this day and age of internet exposure when will all the young players, and older players as well, learn to be careful what they post in emails,texts, Myspace, Facebook etc---look at the mess Grady Sizemore of the Indians now has on his hands !!!
C'mon guys---get smart--it is your career

I guess I'm lost. What did Grady do or say?

From several news sources, he apparently took pictures of his GF and himself from his cell phone while in the shower or something and saved the pictures in his or her laptop. Someone got hold of it and published it in the interenet. Now he is trying to block this scandal from spreading more.

Think 10x or more before you do something that may jeopardize your future.

We're horrified, but I doubt kids are.

/sad

Actually they were pictures he took of himself in front of a bathroom mirror. In one of them he's standing there naked as a jaybird with a beer mug in front of his tool. They were on the Deadspin site, but MLB sent them an e-mail demanding they be removed.

http://deadspin.com/5414916/se...ter?skyline=true&s=i

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Originally posted by MTH:
Actually they were pictures he took of himself in front of a bathroom mirror. In one of them he's standing there naked as a jaybird with a beer mug in front of his tool. They were on the Deadspin site, but MLB sent them an e-mail demanding they be removed.

http://deadspin.com/5414916/se...ter?skyline=true&s=i

It was a coffee cup. Now use your imagination. I apologize to any offended parties.

I wonder if Sizemore wishes he had stopped after taking this picture and just asked, "How does this tie look with the suit?"

So what? He is a kid. Last time I checked we were all born without clothes on anyways. This will be past the media in a couple months and no one will ever remember this. You act like this is going to tarnish his career or something. Should he not have *** either- god forbid one of his neighbors hear anything-he might never get a contract again.

Uhmmm - he's not a kid at all. He's 27 years old. He should know better because he represents three major industries - MLB, Cleveland Indians and Himself. If somebody from Microsoft does this they are in deep trouble and probably fired. What would your boss say if you did this and he / she found out?

This stuff happens because people (of all ages) are losing the face to face effect of decisions they make on the internet. Facebook, MySpace, Twitter et al allow people to do / say things without having to really think about it. You know everyone will see what's going on but without having to look someone in the face. That face to face interaction is what forces people to think about their actions a little bit more.

Best example is cyber bullying and why it's becoming more prevalent. It's easier to type and hit a button that says "I hate you and hope you die" than it is to look someone in the eye and say those same words.

You take a pic of your junk and post it somewhere on the internet and think that the people who can see it are trustworthy but they're not. All they have to do is cut / paste a pic and its out there...forever. I got 350 some friends on facebook and I'm pretty certain that I'm not that good of friends with them to trust certain things with them. If I put something embarassing / offensive on there then it's my fault it gets out.

He should have known better. If it's something you have to do behind closed doors then make sure the camera stays outside too.

Does anyone here honestly believe this is actually going to hurt his career? It affects his baseball career absolutely zero (other than the ribbing from his teammates in the clubhouse). If anything it may actually boost his endorsement opportunities, he is after all big with the ladies! Maybe it was not the smartest thing to do and perhaps a little naive, but in our 24/7/365, instant access, everything now world, the media is in a constant state of chasing those in the public eye hoping to hasten their downfall, all the while counting on a blood-thirsty, often jealous public to pile on in a feeding frenzy. Look at all of those people reveling in the supposed "downfall" of Tiger Woods.

Think about the context of what some of you are saying. So maybe Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford should have been run out of baseball? Isn't boozing and womanizing, passing out at 5:00 AM and playing the next afternoon a little more of a "sin"? And Grady Sizemore has lost all respect for sending **** pictures to his girlfreind? That's right, but this is OK because it's ESPN:

ESPN The Magazine Body Issue

I am not perfect. No one on this board is perfect. I have never met a human being who is perfect, although I have met a few who seemed pretty sure that they were perfect! And our athletic "heroes" ****ed sure aren't perfect. In fact they are just as flawed as the rest of us, their flaws sometimes being exposed to the masses. They are human beings just like you, me and everyone else. Therefore their flaws are simply a mirror of those in society - marital issues, alcohol, drugs, money - but often played out in public. As someone on this board that is wiser than me has stated on numerous occasions - athletes are not and should not be your role models, your role models should start in your own home.

Sorry to to rant on, I just think that too many people tend to see how things were when they were younger through rose-colored glasses, glossing over inconvenient truthes, and I feel like as a society we have become so jaded, self-rightous, & PC that it is almost stifling. How about everyone take a deep breath, exhale, smile and share a laugh with someone.

I'm sure to be caned, flogged, stoned, tarred & feathered, and horse-whipped over this one, so let the fun begin.

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I just think that too many people tend to see how things were when they were younger through rose-colored glasses, glossing over inconvenient truthes, and I feel like as a society we have become so jaded, self-rightous, & PC that it is almost stifling.

I find this comment to be part of the acceptance of the dumbing down of morality and ethics in today's society. No I wasn't a perfect angel as a kid and a young adult. But there also wasn't the internet and cell phones with picture taking capability. Whatever era someone lives in they have to be aware of the "gotchas".

There's a rumor the girl's mother released the pictures for free publicity for her daughter. How many people knew who Brittany Binger was last week? It's amazing to me some of these athletes would date some of these Playboy bimbos. They're only good for one thing. I wouldn't trust any of them. They're publicity seekers for their own careers. They're not the only good looking women in the world.

Tom Brady did it right for going after a hottie. His wife is more world famous than he is and makes more money. She won't be using him for his fame.

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Whatever era someone lives in they have to be aware of the "gotchas".

Agreed. But this certainly isn't the blasphemous offense that some make it out to be. I see it as more of a personal embarassment to him, nothing more. And again, it is somehow worse because it's not in ESPN The Mag?

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Tom Brady did it right for going after a hottie. His wife is more world famous than he is and makes more money. She won't be using him for his fame.

If it means nothing to Sizemore's career and MLB then explain why MLB went after the website for posting the pics

Whether we accept it or not, we are a society where "grown-ups" dictate the initial morality opinion, and I guess it has to start somewhere. As time goes on, thoughts, opinions, related issues are fleshed out and that moral opinion is modified to reflect societies view as a whole. A good example may be the Pete Rose blunder. Initially, he was a black cloud in the eyes of most. Now, his "crimes" have softened in the eyes of many and his actions have gone from a "rant " to a "no-no ".

IMHO, in regard to the big picture, we are a creature of "today's opinion" and the next issue that comes about moves the last down a rung. The only vision of legacy that counts is what you think of yourself. I'll bet that when all is said and done and Sizemore looks back and balances "life's checkbook" he will say "oops, that ended up being a "positive mistake" in judgment".

If Sizemore wasn't a top tier; recognizable player then there would be a lot of repercussions. If he was some sort of file pusher in the MLB offices or Indians office he would be fired. But then again we would never hear of it if he was a file pusher.

MLB does consider it serious by the fact they are going after the pics. Will they do anything to Sizemore (or Cleveland for that matter)? I seriously doubt it but behind closed doors he will probably get an ear full from someone.

Nobody is perfect and we are all very perfectly capable of making mistakes.There are rose colored glasses involved with the good old days but back in the early to mid 80's things were simpler. Were kids taking pics of themselves naked and sending them through text messages to the whole school or going to a party and taking a hit off a bong and then posting it on facebook?

Kids back then were getting frisky just like kids today and alcohol / drugs were there as well but the difference is the technology is now available to let EVERYONE know what you're doing.

I'm actually pretty laid back and don't get too worked up over stuff like this. Personally I don't care what Sizemore did and doesn't really change my opinion of him since I really didn't have one to begin with but because of what he did there will be kids who end up doing the same thing because nothing really happened to him. Athletes are role models regardless of what anyone thinks.

You can cry til your blue in the face that they aren't and shouldn't be and I will agree with you too that it's wrong. But when I read a medical journal and see that it's bad for me to eat greasy cheeseburgers - I'm going to agree with that and probably eat two. Just because it's wrong doesn't stop people from doing it (or emulating it).

You want to stop it - punish it.

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Originally posted by RJM:
I wonder if Sizemore wishes he had stopped after taking this picture and just asked, "How does this tie look with the suit?"

That looks like one of those new underwater solar powered video cell phones.