White Sox benefit again from another blown call by home plate umpire

I was going to reply in detail to this, but decided not to....there is just so much wrong and illogical here that this must be a joke.......

But if in the event this isnt a joke,,,,please identify one major professional sport umpired/refereed that is ajudged by only one official.......

piaa ump,

After last nights game, if it was your job to grade the umpires, what would be your opinion on how the playoffs and World Series series were being worked.

After 20+ years as an umpire I am biased since I have done the job..........albeit on a far smaller scale and not under the intense scrutiny that these umpires work under.....

That being said, I have seen some bad umpiring in this playoff/world series run.. On the whole I have thought that the umpiring was on par for MLB which is very good. But there have been those calls/situations that have been bad...

Anything involving judgement at full speed I have a hard time complaining about. I've been there. Safe/out, fair/foul, ball/strike, done at full speed you get my call based on what I saw at the time of the play.

Im glad there has not been instant replay and super slow motion on my calls over the years....

The things that cant be excused are the failure of mechanics (dropped 3rd strike) or injection of personalities (ejection of edmonds)........

My grade is the good has been very good......the bad has been very bad......The bad has overweighed any of the good competent work that has gone on......so I dont think anyone could say the umpiring of this post season is anything but poor for MLB standards....

My suggestion is a more thorough selection process for postseason umpires and less Tim Mc Carver.....

AND......NO ANGEL HERNANDEZ!

Like the saying goes, "One oh s**t wipes out a hundred atta boys."

Less of Joe Buck as well...

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Originally posted by rz1:
Why not let those who have been impacted the most and have had the best seats in the house decide who will judge them in the end, and then the umpire gods (supervisors) determine the specific assignments. The end result are the playoff teams have picked those to judge them.

It's very interesting that rz1 made this statement because where I live this is exactly what happens.

Now, I'm not a Major League Ump. I work high school varsity games in the spring and older kids games (legion, etc) in the summer. For high school though, at the end of the regular season comes the Sectional tournament which leads to the Regional and State level.

Prior to the Sectionals a meeting of all the coaches in the tournament takes place. Two things are determined at this meeting. Seedings and umpire selection. The coaches don't specifically select the umps for their games but they do submit to the ump supervisors two lists. One is the coaches preferred list and the other is their non-preferred list. If an umpires' name shows up on the non-preferred list of just two coaches that umpire is, as we affectionately call it, "black balled" from working any games.

That is, not only prevented from working any games for those coaches but any games at all in the tournament. And there have been cases where a coach black balled an ump who has never worked a game for him just because another coach asked him to put the guys name on his non-preferred list.

Fortunately for me, I've never been exculuded from the tourny but every ump here is at the mercy of the coaches come Sectional time.

It's a tough system but I'm OK with it. If there are umps that the coaches don't want they have a means to arrange it.

I dont know who stunk worse.

The umpires - or the Astros.

Tough call.

The Astros pulled an "ARod" - when the big hit was needed - they did squat.

If you do not hit it matters not how good the pitching is or how bad the umpiring may be

TR --- ????

Actually, you may not be hitting because the pitching is that good.

And...you may not have swung at that "strike" because it was, indeed, a ball, thus changing the situation. So it's a bit disingenuous to suggest that poor umpiring isn't a factor.

Orlando

I am talking about the hitting teams pitching

Not using umpires as a reason or excuse !!!

All I could think of when I watched the Astros get swept - was the famous line:

Down goes Frazier!!!

They stunk.
And so did the umpires.

The NL isn't up to the task these days.

Pitiful won-loss record in all-star and post season games.

10 in a row and counting.

I agree with you, for a change. But why do you think that is? Are the GMs that much better? It seems odd that it would break down purely on league lines.

HC...good, thought provoking post.

Off the cuff, I haven't a clue.

Maybe a hard look at the NL domination during the 60's and 70's would unveil some insight.

It could be cloudy memory but I think that the NL had noticeably better players at that time. I don't see the same difference today.

The AL clearly does have better players and teams at the present time...not sure the current status is nearly as lopsided as then...but what NL teams compare to the Indians, both Sox, Yankees and Angels?

Arod,Papi,Jeter,Guerrero in the AL...Albert in the NL.

Pitching staffs of the Indian's, White Sox and Angels are superior to any in the NL. Only the Astros and Cards are close. Oakland and Minnesota also have great staffs.

Braves. Can't argue with 14 straight.

I don't put the Indians in the category that you do. They had 2 good months but then choked bigtime in the end. Red Sox may be in disarray by the start of spring training. It certainly seems like the wheels are falling off the cart.[AND I WROTE THAT BEFORE I HEARD THAT EPSTEIN RESIGNED!] In any event, not a super team either. Two superstar hitters but they probably rank with several NL teams and not ahead of them.

There are definitely more established stars in the AL, but not so many more as to explain the All Star, WS dominance.