voodoo, there have been much larger penalties handed out in other sports. Baseball may be a matter of time. Why take any chances?
Yes, Sowers missed about 30% of his starts and that would really irk me if I was his dad, so we will have an advisor only. If it was your son, you would probably call him an advisor also.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DocBall:
voodoo, there have been much larger penalties handed out in other sports.
Such as?
voodoo, there have been much larger penalties handed out in other sports.
Such as?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bbscout:
"Yes, Sowers missed about 30% of his starts and that would really irk me if I was his dad, so we will have an advisor only."
Sowers missed a total of 6 of his teams'games. As a starting pitcher, that means he missed 2 starts. How does that constitute 30% of his starts?
"If it was your son, you would probably call him an advisor also."
If my Son grows enough to be a draft prospect, I won't worry about the NCAA. They'll have to worry about me. You can call me whatever you want. "You can throw your boots in the oven, but that don't make 'em biscuits" An Agent is an Agent is an Agent.
"Yes, Sowers missed about 30% of his starts and that would really irk me if I was his dad, so we will have an advisor only."
Sowers missed a total of 6 of his teams'games. As a starting pitcher, that means he missed 2 starts. How does that constitute 30% of his starts?
"If it was your son, you would probably call him an advisor also."
If my Son grows enough to be a draft prospect, I won't worry about the NCAA. They'll have to worry about me. You can call me whatever you want. "You can throw your boots in the oven, but that don't make 'em biscuits" An Agent is an Agent is an Agent.
OK, my bad......Sowers missed two starts. That is two starts more than need be . It could have been handled with ease and it should have been handled without a penalty to a fine young pitcher.
If you want to fight the NCAA over the word advisor/agent, be my guest. Hope your son does not get hurt. Hope he turns out to be a good player too.
If you want to fight the NCAA over the word advisor/agent, be my guest. Hope your son does not get hurt. Hope he turns out to be a good player too.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bbscout:
"OK, my bad......Sowers missed two starts. That is two starts more than need be . It could have been handled with ease and it should have been handled without a penalty to a fine young pitcher."
Wasn't trying to start an argument. I agree with you 100% re: the fact that Sowers' situation could have been handled better. However, it doesn't seem to have hurt Jeremy's career.
Over the years I have represented MANY players who turned down the draft & played in D1 schools with no problem. Have a client I represented 3 years ago playing right now for a major D1 school who'll be drafted in June.
"Hope your son does not get hurt. Hope he turns out to be a good player too."
Thanks sincerely for your kind wishes. Hope the same for you & yours as well.
"OK, my bad......Sowers missed two starts. That is two starts more than need be . It could have been handled with ease and it should have been handled without a penalty to a fine young pitcher."
Wasn't trying to start an argument. I agree with you 100% re: the fact that Sowers' situation could have been handled better. However, it doesn't seem to have hurt Jeremy's career.
Over the years I have represented MANY players who turned down the draft & played in D1 schools with no problem. Have a client I represented 3 years ago playing right now for a major D1 school who'll be drafted in June.
"Hope your son does not get hurt. Hope he turns out to be a good player too."
Thanks sincerely for your kind wishes. Hope the same for you & yours as well.
so what's the distinction between advisor/agent with regard to NCAA?
got me confused...again..
got me confused...again..
voodoochile ...
That is absolutely one of the funniest lines I have ever read ... especially since you obviously haven't tasted my biscuits.
Thanks for the lift ... some lines are just too funny to go un-noticed.
H-mom
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You can throw your boots in the oven, but that don't make 'em biscuits
That is absolutely one of the funniest lines I have ever read ... especially since you obviously haven't tasted my biscuits.
Thanks for the lift ... some lines are just too funny to go un-noticed.
H-mom
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Originally posted by Texas2004:
so what's the distinction between advisor/agent with regard to NCAA?
got me confused...again..
Sorry to confuse you Tex. From a strictly technical point of view, the NCAA sees an Advisor as someone who gives you advice on how to handle negotiations yourself but that's it i.e. he never talks to the team only tells you how to talk to the team. It's like a Dr. telling you how to do surgery on yourself.
An Agent handles all the aspects of the negotiations from trying to help create interest in a player to the final signed contract.
quote:
Originally posted by pops:
Detroit may be lacking, but Boras is not, and in the tightening of the belt times that are going on right now, he may just prove his worth again.
FROM : askba@baseballamerica.com.
By Jim Callis
Jan. 16, 2004
Does anyone really believe that there's spirited competition for Greg Maddux' services? The only thing more far-fetched is the idea that Ivan Rodriguez entered the offseason hoping he'd wind up in Detroit. If I were running the Cubs, I'd give Maddux and agent Scott Boras a deadline and move on, rather than be played in a bidding war that doesn't exist.
Pudge 4 years 40 million its official.
If I am not mistaken,isn't it only 2 years guarenteed. Doesn't that make it 2 year 20 million. If that is the case, wasn't the Florida offer better? I don't know the facts yet.
the Florida Bombers
"I love the HSBBW"
the Florida Bombers
"I love the HSBBW"
Found this on the mlb website.
the Florida Bombers
"I love the HSBBW"
quote:
After an unexpected three-week courtship that began with Rodriguez still on the market in mid-January, the finishing touches were put on the deal late Sunday night between the Tigers and agent Scott Boras. It includes clauses that allow the Tigers to end the deal early if Rodriguez spends more than five weeks on the disabled list with a lumbar spinal injury in one of the next three seasons. There's also a $13 million team option for 2008, which the Tigers can either pick up or buy out for $3 million.
the Florida Bombers
"I love the HSBBW"
Here's what I found,
He also said:
Frank
PASSION - "There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart...pursue those."
quote:
Rodriguez gets $7 million this year, $8 million in 2005 and $11 million each in 2006 and 2007, according to contract information obtained by The Associated Press. The Tigers have a $13 million option for 2008 with a $3 million buyout.
Rodriguez would get $50 million over five years if the option is exercised or $40 million over four if it’s declined.
He also said:
quote:
Rodriguez, 32, said the reported offer of $24 million over three years from the Marlins was inaccurate. Some of the money in that proposal wasn’t guaranteed and much would have been deferred.
‘‘If that offer was true, I would’ve probably taken that offer, but it was not that offer,’’ he said.
Frank
PASSION - "There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart...pursue those."
1) Fla. has no State income tax therefore the Marlins' offer was worth more than it seemed on the surface.
2) As poorly as this deal was handled leading to all the bad feeling this has generated, even if Detroit offered double what the Marlins did is it worth it to a man who already had more than he could spend in 2 lifetimes? Says
something about the man he is I guess.
Posted on Tue, Feb. 03, 2004
Bottom line: Pudge makes a dash for dollars
DAN LE BATARD
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/7860711.htm
2) As poorly as this deal was handled leading to all the bad feeling this has generated, even if Detroit offered double what the Marlins did is it worth it to a man who already had more than he could spend in 2 lifetimes? Says
something about the man he is I guess.
Posted on Tue, Feb. 03, 2004
Bottom line: Pudge makes a dash for dollars
DAN LE BATARD
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/7860711.htm
VC,
I agree but you left one thing out, endorsements he would have gotten from the latin/tri county communities might have made up the difference. I guess his agent overlooked that.
I think it was more about ego rather than dollars and sense.
I agree but you left one thing out, endorsements he would have gotten from the latin/tri county communities might have made up the difference. I guess his agent overlooked that.
I think it was more about ego rather than dollars and sense.
Love Pudge's play, but this is a man with life-sized bronze statues of himself in his garden (per SI article...with pics). Ego? Ya think?
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Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
quote:
Originally posted by baseonballs50:
VC,
I agree but you left one thing out, endorsements he would have gotten from the latin/tri county communities might have made up the difference. I guess his agent overlooked that.
I think it was more about ego rather than dollars and sense.
Not ego. EGO! Both his & his Agent.
Orlando,
I tried that one.
My wife had a different idea. She suggested I make a life-size pinata of myself - and also requested that I order her a nice 32-29 Omaha Classic bat for use on the pinata.
Needless to say - Im a bit concerned. LOL
I tried that one.
My wife had a different idea. She suggested I make a life-size pinata of myself - and also requested that I order her a nice 32-29 Omaha Classic bat for use on the pinata.
Needless to say - Im a bit concerned. LOL
The good news, its, is that she was still willing to only go after the pinata-you with the bat....it's when she skips the pinata and goes straight to the 'original' that you have to worry! 
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
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