Who's throwing 90?

We have 2 middle relievers that throw 45 each.. Does that count?

Only if they can throw at the same time.

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Originally posted by john alves:
We have 2 middle relievers that throw 45 each.. Does that count?

This may be a stretch out west, but Conrad Flynn, Midland Lee and Chris Withrow, Midland Christian.

If I remember correctly in the FM vs. Marcus game, I believe Ryan Pressley from Marcus touched it a few times as well.

All are 2007's.

Can't add these guys without confirmation.

The tall senior out of Flo-Mo... I don't know his name though

I seen 88/89 from R. Roher (08) last summer but thats not 90.

You'all (I consider myself Texan) -- you're confirming the reason for this discussion!

"I think the ambidextrous kid from Dillion throws upper 90's when he has a dip in...."

Give me facts!

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Low 90s, our guys like him, probably needs to move up.

I have definatly seen the radar guns with JS @93mph and Hunter Hill @ 93mph also.

I have seen the gun with Chris Withrow pitching in the Tapps state playoffs @ 91

Brett Bruenig at Flower Mound has hit 94 this year.

Bryan Dixon West Mesquite '07 92

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Only if they can throw at the same time.

Panther Dad,

You haven't seen our guy's Chang and Eng Bunker throw? It's amazing!! They can really throw you off with that move to first..

I've seen the gun reading on all of these this spring...

Conrad Flynn was 87-91

Chris Withrow was 89-94

Ryan Pressley was 87-91

Brett Bruening has touched 94

Hunter Hill was 88-90 touching 93

Jordan Swaggerty was 88-92, touching 93


A couple of 08's who are close or have already touched 90:

Hainsfurther---HP
Kelly---Arl Heights
Roher---Celina

OK, I don't own a gun. I have thought about it but keep finding other baseball related expenses to pay for, new bat, next installment on summer ball club fees....

So, what is proper "gun" etiquette if you don't have one.

Is it Ok to sit behind the guy with the gun and look over their shoulder?

Can I ask them at the appropriate time?

If I don't see the numbers or they don't show me the numbers are they to be believed if I ask them and they tell me?

brent powers 07' j.j. pearce high school.

I've faced him a few times and would think that he throws 90's

Meatsdad,

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.


If Hainsfurther throws 90 from the mound, he needs to pitch more. His nomination is temporarily denied.

HSplayer -- speculation.

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Originally posted by MeatsDad:
OK, I don't own a gun. I have thought about it but keep finding other baseball related expenses to pay for, new bat, next installment on summer ball club fees....

So, what is proper "gun" etiquette if you don't have one.

Is it Ok to sit behind the guy with the gun and look over their shoulder?
Can I ask them at the appropriate time?

If I don't see the numbers or they don't show me the numbers are they to be believed if I ask them and they tell me?

I think you have to buy a permit from Kermit. Just wear a pair of turf shoes,have a pad and pen and say, "Are you a scout too, how fast was that. I'm not packin, I left my gun out in the car."

Kaleb Merck touched 90 in a preseason game. Haven't seen a gun at a game since then.

I'm sure Reid was touching 90 last night as well.

KD -- is this an estimate or are you reliable? How "sure" are you about Reid? I have to uphold a standard here.

I sat behind several of the scouts in attendance at Blake Beaven's perfect game against SmartSon's Irving MacArthur team. He was consitently hitting 93-96 on the gun from the Chicago Whitesox scout with the HUGE championship ring!

Cole Green was also throwing 90

PD - I threw 90+ away in Shreveport once. Does that count?

Collikar -- you nearly threw 90+ away at the Yankee's game!

JV pitcher at Forney 92. Dont know his name. Comes from a highly touted source. Has problem getting UIL approved. He is from California. Been here all year. Austin has denied him twice.

In the scouting "circus" that was the Midland Christian/Grace Prep game, Withrow topped at 94 and Thompson topped at 91. As smooth as he is, Withrow could probably throw 90 with either hand.

Walker Kelly at FW Arlington Heights. Confirmed.

Paul Petro was throwing his usual gas last night.

Hit 94mph 3 times last night, and that was on the only 3 sliders he threw.

This was on the Jugs gun so it's really probably more like 90mph.

The University of Fullride was there and offered him a scholarship. But from talking to his advisor, I think he's still keeping his options open.

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Collikar -- you nearly threw 90+ away at the Yankee's game!

OUCH!!!

On stalker gun Miles Hamblin sat 91-93 vs South Garland. Although vs Rockwall he didn't go any where near 90(84-85)

Did not see a gun last night but Chris Haney was bringing it last night.

I'm sure Crawdad has seen Hendon, Thompson and his son all hit the 90 mark. All pitch for Pine Tree.

Sounds like Dbat is still looking for pitching to me.

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Originally posted by Texan:

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Collikar -- you nearly threw 90+ away at the Yankee's game!

OUCH!!!

Shhhh....don't remind me. LOL!

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Ken Guthrie
HSBBWeb Old Timer

Posted March 29, 2007 01:29 PM Hide Post
Paul Petro was throwing his usual gas last night.

Hit 94mph

Had this same conversation a few weeks ago down here in Houston.

We all concluded that there really aren't that many kids throwing 90+( either consistently or for strikes).

Best Katy has seen, and we have faced a lot of #1's, is probably 88 on a few high fastballs.

Our #1 throws 84-85 with a mean Change and Duece. And by the way, he leads the Houston area in ERA.

Gas is great. But being a pitcher is even better.

62tiger is pulling the curtain back on this discussion.

Throw 90 means that the player pitches 90. Which means 75% of the pitchers fastballs are 90 or higher. Touch 90 is different. I would say there are at least 150 kids in Texas that touch 90. Some don't even pitch. Not many in Texas pitch 90. (Maybe 10 - 15 players) Here is a few that can pitch at 90 in North Texas.

Walden
Arrieta
Bettis
Workman

Newscout -- we all agree that few hit 90+ with 75% of their fastballs -- a true statement for many pros as well. And it's not a shock that the other posters didn't mention college kids.

PD

Figured we were on the same page. We faced kid from Ft Bend isd that "throws" 90+ earlier in the year. We scored 7 runs on him in 2+ inn by hitting his 86-87 flat FB all over the field.

Kid from Cinco Ranch last year "threw" 88-89. Son said he never hit 85.

Bullpens are great, but pitching with a batter and the game going on is a whole other story.

My 12 year olds select coach happens to be a former All American and Major leaguer who swears by teaching these kids to PITCH. They work inside to get the outside. He preaches location, location and more location. He does not want every batter struckout. We won a tourney last weekend and we probably only had 10 K's in 3 games on Sunday. Most were ground balls and a few lazy fly balls.

With offense to no one, some coaches are afraid to call changeups because they have little confidence in their defense to make simple plays. Sad, but true. Ask a good hitter to name their worst nightmare --- I predict 9 out of 10 will mention a nasty changeup. In my opinion, fewer sliders = fewer TJ's. Few kids are put on the shelf for throwing too many fast balls and changeups. As a matter of fact, my son's pitching coach counts 2 changeups as one pitch in tracking pitch count. I suppose this is a different discussion but I don't think I'll start the topic, "Who's throwing 68?"

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Originally posted by Clemente21:
On stalker gun Miles Hamblin sat 91-93 vs South Garland. Although vs Rockwall he didn't go any where near 90(84-85)

Did not see a gun last night but Chris Haney was bringing it last night.

I'm sure Crawdad has seen Hendon, Thompson and his son all hit the 90 mark. All pitch for Pine Tree.

Sounds like Dbat is still looking for pitching to me.

I will put these out, but these figures are from our team's pitching charts - we have a manager gun and chart every pitch. The gun they use is a Stalker. I have never had to ask a scout (although some have told me at the games) what anyone is throwing since we have a complete chart available to the boys after the game.

Brian throws 89-92 - his "top" is 93
Jeff throws 88-90 - he has hit 91
Zane throws 87-89 - don't know what his "top" has been.

BTW, for anyone that knows Zane he is throwing the best I have ever seen him throw. His slider is one of the best (if not the best) I have seen in the summer or HS ball. It is the ultimate in nastiness. I think this kid is finally getting his act together.

Brian and Jeff are their usual selves and they start each of the two district games each week. So far we are 5-0 (14-2 overall)with these two pitching.

We really are lucky to have three very solid RH power pitchers on the team.

Clemente, tell Taylor hello from me and Brian. I guess ya'll don't come to Longview anymore since realignment.

Just a few suggestions to possibly be comfirmed by someone else.

Colton Cain- Haven't seen him pitch yet this year but i would imagine he is up there somewhere?

and then the Picca kid from Nolan looked like he had some heat... sure it wasn't ninety though.

Picca is probably 82-86.

Cain is probably 83-88.

Just a guess though!

heard from a reliable source that Joey hit 90+ a couple times this year. His problem apparently is he cant throw for much more than an inning

Another name to add would be Zack Osman, that kid can chunk the baseball up there.

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Originally posted by NorTex Baseball:
Picca is probably 82-86.

Cain is probably 83-88.

Just a guess though!

Picca has been 84 to 86 most of the season, topping out at 88.

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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:

Paul Petro was throwing his usual gas last night.

Hit 94mph 3 times last night, and that was on the only 3 sliders he threw.

This was on the Jugs gun so it's really probably more like 90mph.

The University of Fullride was there and offered him a scholarship. But from talking to his advisor, I think he's still keeping his options open.

That's great stuff!!!

So am I the only one that pictures an image of Dennis Miller at the SNL news desk while reading KG's posts?

PD, heard the Forney JV ace plays for your summer team?

I know nothing about the kid -- when I think of "California kid", all I can picture is the QB in Remember the Titans. If he is playing on PantherSon's summer team, then.....cool!

What do you think, Beast -- I have inside information?

Taylor Jungmann from Rogers is 90-92 and Dustin Eskew from China Spring is 88-90 played with/against both of them in the summer. Steve Smith was all over Jungmann when we played at Baylor

Where is Rogers located? Near Baylor?

Its near Temple south of Temple i believe......they also have another guy Alan Valenzuela who can hit 90......this may be why they are #1 in 2A???

Sat next to an Atlanta Braves scout at the Keller/Carroll game last Wednesday. Was shown 92 on REID but I thinks most would agree that his money pitch is his "nasty" slider.

As for MERCK..."IF" he was a prospect before the Keller/Colleyville he has been sent into the suspects after the football stunt that cost him an ejection. He really let his team, coaches,parents and himself down. He has some good stuff and hopefully will learn from that experience.

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after the football stunt

Someone please Pm me on the details....

would have thought this was taken care of between last summer, Mustangs, ect..

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Originally posted by DBAT GM:

So am I the only one that pictures an image of Dennis Miller at the SNL news desk while reading KG's posts?

Not anymore!

football stunt?

From Jason Becker's Inside Prep Baseball (Edited for Metroplex area names):

www.insideprepbaseball.com

01/29/2007 3:30 PM -
The legend and lore of Texas High School Baseball is littered with power arms. Big-league names like Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens have helped establish the trademark, and each year the next wave of talent further strengthens it. Coming into the 2007 season, the big-time “name” guys have yet to surface. A Ryan Beckett, Scott Kazmir, Homer Bailey type presence has not yet come forward from this group, but the class is as deep with hard throwers as any in recent history. Following is a list of the guys I have either seen myself or heard about from reliable sources as having hit that magic radar gun number of 90 MPH.

Of note: There are a host of pitchers in this class who are hovering just under that 90 MPH mark and are strong pitching prospects. I will formulate a listing of the ones I know, coming soon.

Blake Beavan, RHP, Irving – Oklahoma
Cole Green, RHP, Coppell – Texas
Chris Haney, RHP, Garland Naaman Forest – Dallas Baptist
Zach Neal, RHP, Flower Mound - Sam Houston State
Michael Pair, RHP, TC-Addison – McLennan Community College
Jason Pearce, RHP, Garland Naaman Forest – UT-San Antonio
Ryan Pressley, RHP, American Heritage – Texas Tech
Chase Reid, RHP, Southlake Carroll – Vanderbilt
Stayton Thomas, RHP, Corsicana – Texas
Ryan Turner, RHP, Richland – Arkansas
Brandon Workman, RHP, Bowie - Texas

Uncle Ethan, I think it's Josh Beckett, not Ryan Beckett...

I can add one to the list, he isn't from the DFW area but he's a legitimate top 3 round pick. Drake Britton, LHP, Tomball High School in the Houston area. Has hit as high as 94. Was an Aflac All-American last year.

I saw Carpenter at Highland park Game Saturday he had gun on Dixon sitting 92-93mph and was touching 96 mph. Mustangs will strong with Hill,Reid,Dixon this summer lets not forget Neal.

Walker Kelly was touching 90 both as a fresh and soph. Now as a junior consistenly 89 to 91 topping out at 93. This kid is only going to get better to!

SpringLions07,
I would agree that Mr. Becker probably meant to say Josh Beckett. As this is the Texas Forum and not just the DFW Forum, here is the complete list:

Chris Anagnostou, RHP, La Porte – TCU
Blake Beavan, RHP, Irving – Oklahoma
Chad Bettis, RHP, Lubbock Monterey – Texas Tech
Drake Britton, LHP, Tomball – Texas A&M
Kristian Bueno, LHP, Corpus Christi Calallen – Angelina College
PJ Dean, RHP, New Caney – Oklahoma
Paul Demny, RHP, East Bernard – Blinn College
Chase Dempsay, RHP, Baytown Sterling – Houston
Brett Eibner, RHP, The Woodlands - Arkansas
Matt Evers, LHP, Houston Stratford - Rice
Gabe Flores, RHP, El Paso Montwood
Conrad Flynn, RHP, Midland Lee – Arkansas
Cole Green, RHP, Coppell – Texas
Chris Haney, RHP, Garland Naaman Forest – Dallas Baptist
Sean Hoelscher, RHP, Corpus Christi Calallen – TCU
Justin Jackson, RHP, Magnolia – Sam Houston State
Travis Lawler, RHP, A&M Consolidated – Florida
Marcus Limon, RHP, Lubbock Estacado - UT-Arlington
Barret Loux, RHP, Houston Stratford – Texas A&M
Will Middlebrooks, RHP, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau – Texas A&M
Zach Neal, RHP, Flower Mound - Sam Houston State
Michael Pair, RHP, TC-Addison – McLennan Community College
Jason Pearce, RHP, Garland Naaman Forest – UT-San Antonio
Mike Pierce, RHP, Kingwood – Kansas State
Brooks Pinckard, RHP, Hays Consolidated – Baylor
Ryan Pressley, RHP, American Heritage – Texas Tech
Jared Ray, RHP, Waco Midway – Houston
Chase Reid, RHP, Southlake Carroll – Vanderbilt
Michael Rocha, RHP, Hays Consolidated
Pedro Rodriguez, RHP, Brownsville Lopez
Connor Rowe, RHP, Georgetown – Texas
Ross Speed, RHP, Round Rock Westwood – Baylor
Cody Springer, RHP, Montgomery – Sam Houston State
Jerad Stevens, RHP, The Woodlands – Sam Houston State
Stayton Thomas, RHP, Corsicana – Texas
Ryan Turner, RHP, Richland – Arkansas
Elroy Urbina, LHP, Hutto – Missouri
Matt West, RHP, Houston Bellaire
Chris Withrow, RHP, Midland Christian – Baylor
Brandon Workman, RHP, Bowie - Texas

Tyler Spurlin-Woodlands HS, sophomore. Matthew Bean-Kinkaid HS, sophomore. Both played for heat last summer and were consistently 87-89, Bean topped out at 92. Kiefer Nuncio is another sophomore from Katy who gets it up around 86-88.

I heard Flower Mound has a Freshman that has hit 90-92. Big kid...Henderson. He routinely hits 85 to 88.

I can definately agree with the 85-88. Nice curve ball and change-up for a freshman.

Yovanni Gallardo
Fort Worth Trimble Tech
pitched in h.s. at 88-92
touched 94

*Look out Ben Sheets....

Colton Cain- Haven't seen him pitch yet this year but i would imagine he is up there somewhere?

He wasnit anywhere near 90 when we faced him a week before district began. He was throwing 82-86.

And the freshman from Flo-Mo was a great pitcher for a freshman and kept his composure very well when he got into a tough situation. Look forward to hearing about him.

Could have 2 90's throwers tonight battling it out for the district lead. Hamblin(Rowlett) vs Haney(Naaman) at Namaan 7:00. Should be a good one with Rowlett No.2 in area polls. I'll take Haney in this one even though Rowlett is a better team.

Come on Swami make a pick.

Get documenation Clemente21 and I'll add Haney to the list. Should be a good game.

Yovanni Gallardos little brother George pitches for Boswell High School. I imagine he throws in the upper 80's hes a big kid, much bigger than his brother was. Also what about Nick Fleece from Boswell anyone know how hard he is throwing?

My son has hit ninety a few times.

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Yovanni Gallardos little brother George pitches for Boswell High School. I imagine he throws in the upper 80's hes a big kid, much bigger than his brother was. Also what about Nick Fleece from Boswell anyone know how hard he is throwing?

Fleece is high 80's touched 90 a few times...Jorge is mid 80's,

Shane Griffin hit 90 tonight in a Honda Civic leaving the ball field getting away from the tornado.

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Shane Griffin hit 90 tonight in a Honda Civic leaving the ball field getting away from the tornado.

HAHAHA!!!...Not believable.... he cant fit into a honda civic...

He can get in but has a little trouble getting out.

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Originally posted by FormerObserver:
My son has hit ninety a few times.

Did it go over the center field fence?

Naw, he didn't hit 90 this weekend.

Probably 86-88.

I bet when FO's sons hit 90, the pitchers think, "I'd better start throwing a few more strikes or he might just come out here!"

PD

Did you all get Nick T. on the gun at the P.E. / P. game?

No, I was tied up in the booth -- were you hiding out up on the rail? Some thing Nick was removed too soon, but I don't think he was 90.

Clemente21 Just when I think the planets are aligned correctly, Rockwall beats Naaman, and Sachse beats Rowlett and Rockwall. Oh well, just proves how little I know!! I will pick Naaman also. Haney's a Beast! Will you be at the Rockwall game Thursday night at Garland??

Haney and Hamblin both he 90 a few times.
Both kids thru well for the most part.Hamblin made 2 mistakes to the Prince kid. Haney, I can honestly say he hit 90 on the gun when he needed to. He's just not a power pitcher but worked off slider, change up to set up fast ball. Fun kid to watch as is the Hamblin kid. Hamblin hit 93 after Rowlett's catcher was thrown out of the game for not saying nice things to umpire after play at the plate.(kid was out)

Haney 88-90 Topped out at 92 twice
Hamblin 86-90 Topped out at 93 when he was mad as He!!

Jason Peirce(Naaman) will be sidelined for 2-4 weeks with soreness in shoulder area. That's has to be tough in your senior year. Good luck to the kid.