Bum,
Its like the picture of the 3 boys.
Now the little guy in the middle he's the newcomer.
And the one on his right is an old timer [quik and ready to pounce on the ball.
So the little guy he's worried about the one on his right,
You can tell by his blocking technique.
Right leg extended and the right angle lean.
Of course the little guy doesn't see the second OT.
And with a mighty right leg extention.
Completely squeeze out the newcomer.
Of course there feelings get hurt.
But remember?
There's No Crying in Baseball.
EH
I'm not trying to get esoteric at all ... the controversy in this thread is not surprisingquote:Bee says: sooo, back to what started this ...
1) the opposite field hit where batter was fooled, was it success OR faliure?
2) the opposite field hit where batter was fooled, was it activity OR results??
TG writes: First, thank you for bringing the thread back to baseball. Your questions should be the basis for some abstract thinking given the nature of baseball. There could be several correct responses based on the reasoning.
For failure to be part of the discussion I'll assume you're talking about dinker hits, bloops, pops, flies, etc., not line drives. In that one at-bat it's failure unless the hitter gets lucky and the ball drops or a runner advances. But in the long run if the player is hitting a lot oppo dinkers he's not going to be successful. That would be failure in his practice and approach.
Activity would be swinging the bat. Results would be making something happen with the activity. If a player crushes a ball at a fielder the play yields a negative result. But you know the same activity will yield positive results most times. That falls under "can't win them all."
If we wanted to get real esoteric, we could say the hitter who pops out the opposite way learns something in his at-bat that yields positive results the next at-bat. But we can't be sure on an at-bat to at-bat basis. A hitter can look bad hitting twice a game and go to the Hall of Fame off his third at-bat
jmo, but a coaching philosophy (esp youth) that classifies players and their actions as failures most of the time needs re-thunk a bit
quote:Originally posted by Bee>:
re-thunk a bit
Re-thunk a bit? Rethunkabit? Isn't that the county seat of Piscataquis County up in Maine?
Hey 20dad...you're up in that corner of our country...help me out.
Julie, I love that picture! I went to a t-ball game last night and saw that exact scene! Three young ball players learning that they go after the ball... the child I was there to watch came up with the ball, but all three little boys stood up with grins on their faces! 
Julie, loved the pic! Memories!!!!
You make good points. So did Orlando in her post that she posted last week.
IMO, coming to a message board any message board is like going for a swim in a pool. I know for me, I always stick my foot in first to check out the water. That determines whether I jump in or take my time in getting used to it, taking my time until I feel comfortable with the temperature.
And if I get my hair wet, I know that it's most likely my fault, not those splashing around me, for not being prepared.
You make good points. So did Orlando in her post that she posted last week.
IMO, coming to a message board any message board is like going for a swim in a pool. I know for me, I always stick my foot in first to check out the water. That determines whether I jump in or take my time in getting used to it, taking my time until I feel comfortable with the temperature.
And if I get my hair wet, I know that it's most likely my fault, not those splashing around me, for not being prepared.
Surprisingly, I've found yet another thread where a newcomer (TG) is being flogged by the Pharisees. For those of you that don't have your New Testament handy, I'll give you a quick reference....
Pharisees = purveyors of hypocrisy and false piety.
I have a related topic I'd like to discuss but I think I'll start a new thread to get away from this familiar bait and attack format.
Pharisees = purveyors of hypocrisy and false piety.
I have a related topic I'd like to discuss but I think I'll start a new thread to get away from this familiar bait and attack format.
quote:Originally posted by MN-Mom:
I love that photo, gotwood! It brings back old, old memories! Julie
I think it may be a photo from the T-ball game on the south lawn of the White House. The way all three of them are going after the ball it looks more like a photo from the White House Easter Egg Hunt!
quote:Originally posted by willj1967:
Surprisingly, I've found yet another thread where a newcomer (TG) is being flogged by the Pharisees. For those of you that don't have your New Testament handy, I'll give you a quick reference....
Pharisees = purveyors of hypocrisy and false piety.
I have a related topic I'd like to discuss but I think I'll start a new thread to get away from this familiar bait and attack format.
Well, as long as you're not interested in participating in any baiting or attacking
quote:Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
IMO, coming to a message board any message board is like going for a swim in a pool.
And if I get my hair wet, I know that it's most likely my fault, not those splashing around me, for not being prepared.
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Your hair is soaking wet? Really TPM it wasn't me...it was him...over there...wearing the cap with the 'P' on it...
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And longtimereader...jump in! The water's fine! Thanks for posting!
quote:Well, as long as you're not interested in participating in any baiting or attacking Roll Eyes
Exactly! I'm glad you got it.
quote:Originally posted by willj1967:
Surprisingly, I've found yet another thread where a newcomer (TG) is being flogged by the Pharisees. For those of you that don't have your New Testament handy, I'll give you a quick reference....
Pharisees = purveyors of hypocrisy and false piety.
I have a related topic I'd like to discuss but I think I'll start a new thread to get away from this familiar bait and attack format.
MCO says: [sacasm]Well, as long as you're not interested in participating in any baiting or attacking [/sarcasm]
Bee> agrees w/MCO: "They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance."
check the (out of context) biblical reference at the door & wipe the egg from your face
Actually, i'm the guy in the lower middle looking down???
Oh i'm so Bad.
EH
Oh i'm so Bad.
EH
I see another epic battle brewing between the oldies and newbies. I shall go make popcorn, lots of salt and butter. For this could last for days.....
Woody, stay close with that fork in case things get out of hand.
btw...Am I an oldie or newbie? Havn't been posting long but my thingy says old timer....aaahhh thats only because I went KARMAKAZEE one day.
Woody, stay close with that fork in case things get out of hand.
btw...Am I an oldie or newbie? Havn't been posting long but my thingy says old timer....aaahhh thats only because I went KARMAKAZEE one day.
not flogged, just trying to understand the aformentioned "corporate structure" -quote:by will: found yet another thread where a newcomer (TG) is being flogged
pres has a company of loosers who occasionaly get results
the v-pres praises the mailboy
the pres reprimands the v-pres for the praise
the mailboy "flips off" the v-pres for the praise
all this in the midst of company employees and customers
yea, I gotta find a place like that to buy my widgets from
EPIC BATTLE ?????
Why?
WHERE?
HOW?
I call it spirited debate---- too much thin skin is being seen
AND Woody no pictures please--I am serious--- too many are thin skinned and cannot handle the debate---I ask this --why be in the kitchen if it is too hot?
Why?
WHERE?
HOW?
I call it spirited debate---- too much thin skin is being seen
AND Woody no pictures please--I am serious--- too many are thin skinned and cannot handle the debate---I ask this --why be in the kitchen if it is too hot?
I wouldn't call this a debate. It's a ****ing contest. A never ending "I smack back" battle of the wills.
I for one am sick of it. I feel like I'm living next door to a family that can't stop fighting. I close the windows, but their yelling and pounding is just too loud. It's ugly, and I don't want to hear it anymore. The kitchen isn't just too hot. It's on fire, and I can't stop watching it burn.
"Why" are we drawn to disaster?
I for one am sick of it. I feel like I'm living next door to a family that can't stop fighting. I close the windows, but their yelling and pounding is just too loud. It's ugly, and I don't want to hear it anymore. The kitchen isn't just too hot. It's on fire, and I can't stop watching it burn.
"Why" are we drawn to disaster?
quote:Originally posted by TripleDad:
I shall go make popcorn, lots of salt and butter. For this could last for days.....
Hey EH...easy on the salt on mine...thanks!
I rarely post in this forum and genrally hang out in the Texas Forum (yes, TR, I see your occasion contributions ), but I did feel somewhat compelled to throw something into the pot here.
All parents want their player to be seen in the best possible light. Sometimes, and my wife and I have been guilty of this, a parent think they can talk their player into being better than he really is. While this is a mistake, it is a mistake because the parent loves their child and wants badly for them to succeed.
My oldest is a junior in HS and a solid player. As he has developed as a player and I have aged, I came to realize that if he, or any player for that matter, is good enough to advance to the next step, they will get that opportunity if they want it. Nothing I can say in the stands will alter that, one way or the other.
Perhaps a focus on the more weighty issues by parents will help with this perspective. I truly hope my son gets his chance to play in college, but something happened this week that tells me he on the right track, regardless.
A teacher friend of my wife came up to my wife and offered an unsolicited comment about our son this week. This friend told my wife that her daughter knew our son, and told her mother that "he is a great kid. He doesn't party or drink, he is always nice to me and I never really see him doing anything wrong".
After that, I decided I wasn't going to worry about his future again. He has it figured out, with or without baseball...something to think about.
), but I did feel somewhat compelled to throw something into the pot here.All parents want their player to be seen in the best possible light. Sometimes, and my wife and I have been guilty of this, a parent think they can talk their player into being better than he really is. While this is a mistake, it is a mistake because the parent loves their child and wants badly for them to succeed.
My oldest is a junior in HS and a solid player. As he has developed as a player and I have aged, I came to realize that if he, or any player for that matter, is good enough to advance to the next step, they will get that opportunity if they want it. Nothing I can say in the stands will alter that, one way or the other.
Perhaps a focus on the more weighty issues by parents will help with this perspective. I truly hope my son gets his chance to play in college, but something happened this week that tells me he on the right track, regardless.
A teacher friend of my wife came up to my wife and offered an unsolicited comment about our son this week. This friend told my wife that her daughter knew our son, and told her mother that "he is a great kid. He doesn't party or drink, he is always nice to me and I never really see him doing anything wrong".
After that, I decided I wasn't going to worry about his future again. He has it figured out, with or without baseball...something to think about.
tycho
Some times we as parents tend to get ""TOO" involved
Can be better to sit back and just watch, cheer and have fun
Some times we as parents tend to get ""TOO" involved
Can be better to sit back and just watch, cheer and have fun
quote:After that, I decided I wasn't going to worry about his future again. He has it figured out, with or without baseball...something to think about.
Great post tychco,
I know that parent's are a big equation to weather a child has a chance to go to college.
Weather a baseball player gets a chance to play in HS and Beyond. Is up to the player, and his are her ability.
Nothing as parent's can we do to help with that except keep them busy playing there sport of choice.
It's there journey, were only there for support.
JMHO
EH