nydad just a thought. If those were applied then the likes of Ruth, Cobb , or any number of HOFers would not make it That was the begining of the hypocrosy in professional baseball. Mack included. Remember he was the forerunner of Charlie o Finley,or any Marlins owner, the way he broke teams up. Or any of the early Owners who used the players like surfs. Just saying, no harm or disrespect meant.
None taken Oldman. You're right. There was quite a cast of characters in those days. Truth is, as many of you have pointed out, players have been trying to cheat for decades. I think they did it for mostly fame at one time, but now it's also done for fortune.
My frustration lies in the fact that I have a 13 year old who I'm teaching to be honest and clean and all of his baseball heroes are falling one by one. It's sad.
Use athletes as role models on how to compete. You should be his role model on personal conduct. When I coached 8/9 basketball I told the kids to scrap for a rebound like Dennis Rodman. I also told them not to do all the other stuff Rodman does.
I like the Rodman description. That's a very good way to put it.
