Will Texas and OU Blow Up The Big12

Texas and Oklahoma came close to bolting for the PAC 12 conference several years ago. From what I’ve read over the past few years is the Big 12 is the least stable conference. Texas and Oklahoma leaving would likely be the beginning of the end.

Football rules the roost. The ideal scenario would be four major conferences comprised of sixteen teams. With two divisions in each conference the conference championship could be billed as the first round of the playoffs.

The University of Texas is responsible for the downfall of the Southwest Conference. They also are responsible for Missouri, Arkansas, Colorado, and Texas A&M leaving the Big 12. Now they are bringing about the end of the Big 12. Anybody see a pattern here? A&M and Missouri will vote against allowing Texas & Oklahoma to join. Arkansas is a wild card but I suspect they will vote against as well. All of them have experienced what is like to have they University of Texas as a partner - it’s like being married to a narcissist. Anyone that knows what that is like can understand and would never do it again.  Anyone that hasn’t can’t understand at all. But the SEC better be careful with this one. History has a way of repeating itself.

Sec going after Ohio State and Michigan also.    Will become a 20 team power conference.

@adbono posted:

The University of Texas is responsible for the downfall of the Southwest Conference. They also are responsible for Missouri, Arkansas, Colorado, and Texas A&M leaving the Big 12. Now they are bringing about the end of the Big 12. Anybody see a pattern here? A&M and Missouri will vote against allowing Texas & Oklahoma to join. Arkansas is a wild card but I suspect they will vote against as well. All of them have experienced what is like to have they University of Texas as a partner - it’s like being married to a narcissist. Anyone that knows what that is like can understand and would never do it again.  Anyone that hasn’t can’t understand at all. But the SEC better be careful with this one. History has a way of repeating itself.

Texas is the beautiful girl you should never ask out.

Add in Clemson and Florida State.  SEC wants to be mega conference and do away with NCAA as we know it.  They could declare their winner the National Champion at least in football and maybe in other sports.  This would be very interesting.  What they have now plus Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State, Clemson, and Florida State.  Some conversations of dropping a couple of teams which I would think might be Missouri and who knows, maybe Vanderbilt because they are only successful in baseball.  Adding 2 more powerhouse teams to replace them.

SEC Presidents and ADs -- Be careful what you wish for, you may just get Texas and Oklahoma.

I just don't see Ohio State or Michigan bolting the Big 10 as well as Clemson leaving the ACC.   They've got it pretty good where they are.   The ACC should be trying to get Notre Dame on board.   That makes sense to me.

@fenwaysouth posted:

SEC Presidents and ADs -- Be careful what you wish for, you may just get Texas and Oklahoma.

I just don't see Ohio State or Michigan bolting the Big 10 as well as Clemson leaving the ACC.   They've got it pretty good where they are.   The ACC should be trying to get Notre Dame on board.   That makes sense to me.

With my football plan of four conference of two divisions with the conference championships as first round of the playoffs Notre Dame would have to join a conference or be left out.

@RJM posted:

Texas is the beautiful girl you should never ask out.

She’s actually not that beautiful, she just thinks she is....

Can’t say it better than this guy...

Edited*****On the advice of counsel, I have removed my previous post...it may have crossed a line or two.  I recognize everybody's humor threshold is different, and this probably was not the place to post that content.  Keep calm and chive on.****Edited

Can’t wait to see where this goes. Making popcorn and coffee now. Too early for beer.

@adbono posted:

Can’t wait to see where this goes. Making popcorn and coffee now. Too early for beer.

https://youtu.be/BPCjC543llU

The ACC and all conference participants granted their media rights to ESPN through the 2035-36 season to form the conference's network. In contrast, it's the Big 12's upcoming conclusion of its current TV deal in 4 years that prompts OU and Texas to consider bolting. Those are two very different sets of  circumstances and financial consequences.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, Disney (ABC/ESPN/etc..) will have SEC broadcast rights in the low $300M/year (10 years for $3B)  starting in 2024 versus the previous $55M/year contract with CBS that runs through the end of 2023.   If this is the case, how does that work if TX and OK join the SEC?   Is that $300M/year further divided among all (current & future) teams (thereby each school gets less) or is the more likely scenario that the SEC contract get renegotiated adding in the broadcast value of TX and OK?  I know TX has their own network...of course they do.   Wouldn't TX and OK have to pay an opt-out of the current Big 12 contract and current broadcasting arrangement?   

Can anyone clarify and untangle how this works?  There are two things in play here....conference alignment and broadcast rights.   Thanks.

I can’t clarify anything so instead I will add to the confusion. The University of Texas’ greed regarding television revenue is what led to the formation of the Longhorn Network - at the exclusion of their partner schools in the Big12. That is what led to Colorado, Arkansas, Missouri, and Texas A&M leaving the Big 12. In operation the Longhorn Network has been an abject failure and has cost ESPN a pretty penny (and it couldn’t happen to 2 more deserving organizations). The content of the Longhorn Network is terrible and the on air “talent” is pathetic. Has the University of Texas learned their lesson? History would say they have not. Arrogance runs deep among the alumni and administration of that school and it’s not likely to change IMO. They consistently overvalue their worth and it breeds contempt in all that are forced to do business with them. That’s why the SEC schools that came from the Big 12 want no part of this conference expansion - as the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

@adbono posted:

I can’t clarify anything so instead I will add to the confusion. The University of Texas’ greed regarding television revenue is what led to the formation of the Longhorn Network - at the exclusion of their partner schools in the Big12. That is what led to Colorado, Arkansas, Missouri, and Texas A&M leaving the Big 12. In operation the Longhorn Network has been an abject failure and has cost ESPN a pretty penny (and it couldn’t happen to 2 more deserving organizations). The content of the Longhorn Network is terrible and the on air “talent” is pathetic. Has the University of Texas learned their lesson? History would say they have not. Arrogance runs deep among the alumni and administration of that school and it’s not likely to change IMO. They consistently overvalue their worth and it breeds contempt in all that are forced to do business with them. That’s why the SEC schools that came from the Big 12 want no part of this conference expansion - as the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Great background info. Thanks for sharing.

This just in.   https://www.cbssports.com/coll...?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e

Posturing, and some clues how this would work.  This is like telling your spouse you want to be married until 2024, but you've got a better offer on the horizon.   

Honestly, I think the SEC is fine just the way it is.   They don't need Texas or Oklahoma.  It seems to me that Texas and Oklahoma need the SEC.   

JMO.

From CBS Sports …

The universities intend to honor their existing grant of rights agreements. However, ….

However, if you (Big 12) would like to panic and negotiate exit terms we can live with we’re listening.

Does anyone else see Texas joining the SEC and becoming a perennial 7-5 team? The seven wins will include three against non conference Cupcake U, Little Sisters of Mercy and Tomato Can U.