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In a country of 320 million people, at least one crazy, outrageous public event will happen every single day of the year and provide grist for the mill.

Some pundits will say this particular event occurred because of a lack of impulse control, or bad decision-making.

I think it occurred because this particular group of parents happened to be low-class scumbags.

Last edited by game7

Ridiculous....  I'm not surprised that one such person exists at any given LL game, but I am shocked at the sheer number of idiots who were willing to be participants in this incident.  

7 year old kids??  I wonder if the dynamic at my local LL field is the norm.  Majors division on up, historically, there is very little drama in the games.  Its seems by that time most of the kids, coaches, and parents have figured out that a bad call here and there isn't the end of the world.  Also, by that age most of the kids have played with several kids on the opposing team in some lower division and in large the parents cheer for the kids they know on both teams.  But once you go below Majors ball it starts to get silly.  Managers harass umps about their strike zones and every close call requires a heated meeting with the umpire guilty of the supposed bad call.  I would expect it to get a little more intense as the quality of baseball improves, but that is the exact opposite of what happens here.

baseballmom posted:

I think it was more shameful & revolting than embarrassing...I'd pull my kid from that influence in a NY minute, then call the police! LL needs to ban those coaches or managers like yesterday!

Everything preteen gets labeled LL. A majority of the problems don’t occur in LL games. LL doesn’t tolerate this stuff. In our league yell at an umpire a couple of times and you won’t be coaching. If you’re a parent you won’t be there watching. Regardless of the lack of discipline a LL might have anything that gets in video goes up the org tree. The district or region would dish out discipline. 

Add: Its a local unaffiliated with any national organization program. There’s no mention of all stars on the website. There’s no mention or links to national organizations. The years appears to stop with a county tournament ...

Welcome to the online home of Lakewood Junior Baseball Association.

We are very proud that our volunteer-run organization has been PLAYING BALL since 1944 (long before Lakewood was incorporated in 1969!).

LJBA is committed to developing good character of young men and women on the baseball field. Our coaches on the field focus on discipline, sportsmanship, integrity and teamwork. LJBA’s coaches, players, parents and volunteers take great pride in our organization and our community.

We are not just an organization, we are all TIGERS!

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SultanofSwat posted:

Imagine my shock that a 13 yo umpire couldn't control a crowd.

Why were all the parents on the field?  This is asking for trouble.

Whoever organized this umpiring needs to be sued.

why is there a problem with an umpire being 13? it is an awesome way for a kid to make a few bucks, nobody wants to umpire anyway, why pay a real ump the fees from an association...our organization used 13-16 year kids as umps for years (2007-2012) and nothing but great success. I have no idea if they are  still doing it but I would expect they are. 

the blame for this goes to parents acting like scumbags...nowhere else. 

RJM posted:
baseballmom posted:

I think it was more shameful & revolting than embarrassing...I'd pull my kid from that influence in a NY minute, then call the police! LL needs to ban those coaches or managers like yesterday!

Everything preteen gets labeled LL. A majority of the problems don’t occur in LL games. LL doesn’t tolerate this stuff. In our league yell at an umpire a couple of times and you won’t be coaching. If you’re a parent you won’t be there watching. Regardless of the lack of discipline a LL might have anything that gets in video goes up the org tree. The district or region would dish out discipline. 

Add: Its a local unaffiliated with any national organization program. There’s no mention of all stars on the website. There’s no mention or links to national organizations. The years appears to stop with a county tournament ...

Welcome to the online home of Lakewood Junior Baseball Association.

We are very proud that our volunteer-run organization has been PLAYING BALL since 1944 (long before Lakewood was incorporated in 1969!).

LJBA is committed to developing good character of young men and women on the baseball field. Our coaches on the field focus on discipline, sportsmanship, integrity and teamwork. LJBA’s coaches, players, parents and volunteers take great pride in our organization and our community.

We are not just an organization, we are all TIGERS!

This is also from the Lakewood Junior Baseball Association website:

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RJM I thought the same thing you did when I read about this.  No way this would happen in a Little League organization.  Little League has a very detailed 10-Week Tee Ball Program (ages 4 to 7) and 12 Week Coach Pitch Program for coaches to follow.  It includes tips from the Positive Coaching Alliance.  Also, umpires are not recommended for those age groups.  The focus is on learning and working on skills, being a good sport, and of course having fun.

To give some background because, unfortunately, this is my old stomping ground...

Baseball in the Metro area is composed of several different community organizations who, in turn, are part of a larger organization. Each age group, from 8u up is organized into USSSA classification teams (A - major). The teams from each organization play teams from other organizations. Class A is more like rec ball and they play fewer games and travel less. The umpires for these games run through the bigger organization and are usually very experienced adults.

In addition, many of the organization also have what are supposed to be much less serious in-house leagues composed of kids that don't do the traveling and simply play each other. The umps for those games are usually teens assigned by the organization. This appears to be one of those games which means this should have been the least stress level of play offered.

My main question is that the person throwing the punches has not yet been identified. If this was a parent, it seems that would have been pretty easy.

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