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Originally Posted by Bolts-Coach-PR:


Hope he gets the help he needs... but geez bro... C'mon... No bueno!

If you think that he is the only one, you are sadly mistaken.  This is not uncommon.

When my son was working under Dennis Martinez, an admitted alcoholic, he suggested his pitchers read his book.

I wish CC the best.

Folks, the time for CC to deal with his alcoholism is now! It takes tremendous courage for him to take this first step...his life & family are of the utmost importance and value. Baseball playoffs are waaayyy down the line. And, with luck, hard work & prayers, maybe for him next year. 

 

Suggest folks listen to Cashman & Girardi interviews for a little more understanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...EwMjAxNQ&index=2

 

Just listened to an interview on Mike and Mike with Chris Carter.  It was a very emotional and real interview about his struggles with alcoholism.  I realized that I really don't understand the disease at all.  My prayers are with C.C.  I will never meet him, but listening to Chris explain his past, I cannot imagine going through something like this.  It is all the more difficult the way alcohol is viewed in our society.  It certainly does not get the respect or attention that it deserves because it is normalized.

CC is doing what addicts do....he is being selfish.  

Maybe the Yankees signed off because they didn't really have him in their post season plans.  
I say this as someone who has been there....albeit many years ago.  Everyone is different.  I was able to get some help when I was very young, before 21 (spent my 21st Bday sipping ice tea watching a football game with my dad....it was great), and have done well since.  For some it is a lifelong ongoing struggle.  So, it is hard to tell.  Maybe he has no ability to function and control himself.  Perhaps he didn't even relapse, perhaps he just knows he is getting close.  Maybe he has been drinking all year and chose a selfish time to get help.  Who knows?  I wish him the best.  Speaking in general terms (disease or not disease....blah, blah) the hardest thing for an addict to do is to care about others more than themselves.  It is a unique thing for each person.  

I wish him the best. 

Originally Posted by Leftside:
  Speaking in general terms (disease or not disease....blah, blah) the hardest thing for an addict to do is to care about others more than themselves.  It is a unique thing for each person.  

I wish him the best. 

Have to disagree, the hardest thing for an addict to do is actually want help to stop, and mean it. 

 

If that happens during the playoffs or it happens at 2am on Christmas...when they actually decide they truly want help, they truly NEED help, they truly accept that they are broken, then they need to go. I just hope he is actually at that stage.

Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl:
Originally Posted by Leftside:
  Speaking in general terms (disease or not disease....blah, blah) the hardest thing for an addict to do is to care about others more than themselves.  It is a unique thing for each person.  

I wish him the best. 

Have to disagree, the hardest thing for an addict to do is actually want help to stop, and mean it. 

 

If that happens during the playoffs or it happens at 2am on Christmas...when they actually decide they truly want help, they truly NEED help, they truly accept that they are broken, then they need to go. I just hope he is actually at that stage.

We are saying the same thing in different ways.  

To need help and not get it, particularly when there are other around you who care about you or depend on you, is selfish.  There is a wide range of circumstances and each person is unique.  

Originally Posted by Leftside:
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl:
Originally Posted by Leftside:
  Speaking in general terms (disease or not disease....blah, blah) the hardest thing for an addict to do is to care about others more than themselves.  It is a unique thing for each person.  

I wish him the best. 

Have to disagree, the hardest thing for an addict to do is actually want help to stop, and mean it. 

 

If that happens during the playoffs or it happens at 2am on Christmas...when they actually decide they truly want help, they truly NEED help, they truly accept that they are broken, then they need to go. I just hope he is actually at that stage.

We are saying the same thing in different ways.  

To need help and not get it, particularly when there are other around you who care about you or depend on you, is selfish.  There is a wide range of circumstances and each person is unique.  

We are going to have to agree to disagree. 

Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl:
Originally Posted by Leftside:
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl:
Originally Posted by Leftside:
  Speaking in general terms (disease or not disease....blah, blah) the hardest thing for an addict to do is to care about others more than themselves.  It is a unique thing for each person.  

I wish him the best. 

Have to disagree, the hardest thing for an addict to do is actually want help to stop, and mean it. 

 

If that happens during the playoffs or it happens at 2am on Christmas...when they actually decide they truly want help, they truly NEED help, they truly accept that they are broken, then they need to go. I just hope he is actually at that stage.

We are saying the same thing in different ways.  

To need help and not get it, particularly when there are other around you who care about you or depend on you, is selfish.  There is a wide range of circumstances and each person is unique.  

We are going to have to agree to disagree. 

You are right CaCO. The hardest thing is to admit you have a problem  and when someone does it has to be dealt with asap.  

And its pretty damned hard to be in a clubhouse with champagne flowing and you know if you have a sip you are in deep trouble.

 

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