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Swing mechanics and mental mistakes
I seem to have a lot of issues with my swing. I'm not very consistent at all, even on the tee. There are times when I'm opening up too early, but then other times my shoulder stays closed well. Sometimes my back shoulder drops too early and I drag...
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Make sure you have a plan. Know what are you going to work on that session. Work on one thing at a time. Go slow and reset yourself after each swing. Focus on quality, not quantity. Your not there to get exercise.
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GoldenGraham34- Are you familiar with Steve Springer at all?
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Originally Posted by GoldenGraham34: I seem to have a lot of issues with my swing. I'm not very consistent at all, even on the tee. There are times when I'm opening up too early, but then other times my shoulder stays closed well. Sometimes my back shoulder drops too early and I drag through the zone, but other times I can't feel that happening. Those seem to be my main two problems, but also my hands-- I don't know what angle they come in. I've felt pretty comfortable with them aiming about...
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Originally Posted by playball2011: Originally Posted by GoldenGraham34: I seem to have a lot of issues with my swing. I'm not very consistent at all, even on the tee. There are times when I'm opening up too early, but then other times my shoulder stays closed well. Sometimes my back shoulder drops too early and I drag through the zone, but other times I can't feel that happening. Those seem to be my main two problems, but also my hands-- I don't know what angle they come in. I've felt pretty...
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Originally Posted by J H: GoldenGraham34- Are you familiar with Steve Springer at all? I've heard of him before, but I don't really know who he is. What does he do?
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Quit thinking about so many things at once. A lot of your problem, from reading your post, is too much is going through your head. Lots of hitting instructors talk about hands, hips, front shoulder, back hip, etc. Try this to start. Anytime you hit off of the tee, soft toss, bp, short toss. Don't watch where the ball goes. Keep your head and eyes down as if looking right into the tee after hitting the ball. Your front shoulder will always do what your head does. Head down, shoulder down.
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Try clearing your mind before your swing and swing. Let muscle memory take over. Take deep breaths to after a bad swing and regroup yourself.
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At 13 I believe some of what you are going through is normal. I recommend you find the best hitting instructor in your area to develop proper physical and mental approach. Here is Springers Twitter feed. Good to follow. https://twitter.com/qualityatbats Good luck!
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Pulling the trigger
At times I feel I have entered the world of the surreal with the sport of baseball. I was watching a scrimmage last week and my son was batting lead off. Pitch one, great pitchers pitch touched the black on the outside, would not have wanted him to swing so we are good. Pitch two was just below the belt, three inches outside middle...he watched strike two. Last year that would have been a double to the gap in right center. After the game he brought it up immediately saying..."I have no idea...
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Just my opinion, but I think pulling the trigger and approach go hand and hand. Approach tracks both the situation and the hitter's strengths. Depending on the situation, hitter can isolate his zone, look for his pitch to hit, and swing when he gets it. Until he has two strikes on him. After two strikes, he has to expand the zone, but within reason, to give him the best chance of getting on base and not K looking. Again, I'm just a dad and never coached above the 12U level, but that's what...
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Curious, does he usually bat leadoff? There are a few spots in the lineup that typically require a different approach/mindset and, of course, leadoff is the most prominent. Aside from that, yes, it certainly happens where a hitter is just frozen in a situation where he usually pulls the trigger. Hitters work on a thousand different things, mechanically and mentally, and then are asked to narrow that to just one thought when they step in the box in a game. On top of that, the situation...
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I have reached a point where I mostly just listen in conversations like this. I don't offer solutions very often. I may ask a question or two back to get a thought process going, but I don't offer much advice.
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I'd like to nominate this as the most useless post this board has EVER had...and that's saying something! *****said in complete jest********
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^^^^^^^^^This. Concur 100% with cabbagedad. Watched son do similarly on 1,2,3 strikes early last year. It was with out a doubt the highest velo he had seen to that point, but I swear I don't think he moved except to track the pitch. He felt weird, stupid, confused afterward and I hope to never see it again, but probably will.
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I never like to speak poorly of the boys in blue but it appeared sitting directly behind home plate that wind shear must have caused the ball to be in the middle of the 1st base batters box and then somehow return to the strike zone in time for the call...struck out looking. I can live with that, it happens and I would have been concerned if he had swung at that one, expanding the zone 3" off the plate with 2 strikes to protect is good, chasing a pitch out there is just not a good idea. In...
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Cabbage, Yes he has been a three year leadoff in HS, in club he is leadoff, or 3 depending on the make-up of the squad. I appreciate the insight, that is what I believe too and that was the reassurance I provided, just wanted to make sure I covered the proverbial bases. Thanks!
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My son has been in this situation before. In fact he's a leadoff hitter and he's scuffling right now. Like Tres_A, I'm just a dad, but my thought has always been "do what you need to do to reach the same level of comfort you had with your swing and your approach when you were at your best." In other words, "get your bucket and your tee and get in the cage."
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My general observation, and my 2017 son likes to tell me this: it's harder than it looks in the stands. Or something to that effect. We've all seen our son's chase a first-pitch CB (or one drops in), lay-off a fat second pitch FB, and get in a deep hole and chase (or worse...look at strike 3). All part of the game. Pros do the same thing from time-to-time. I suppose the key is whether this is anomaly, a trend, or a consistent approach/result. If the latter, he won't be lead-off for long.
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It's more than likely an anomaly. I've seen it happen to my son, usually once a year. Maybe twice through all 3 seasons. It happens. Just advise him to laugh it off and get back on the horse.
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I was just reading a Yogi Berra quote book, and this one stands out: "How can you think and hit at the same time?" Don't think too much, just hit it
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If it's one pitch, nothing to analyze. It happens. If it becomes habitual, then maybe he's guessing.
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A MLB scout once told us that you have to have what he called a yes-yes-yes - no approach rather than a no-no-no-yes approach. As I understood him, he meant that on each pitch you are looking to do damage as a default, holding up only when the pitch reveals itself as NOT hammerable. A no-no-no-yes approach would I guess be the opposite, it's like "show me that you are hittable, pitch. But until you show me, I'm laying off." (although with a pitcher that cant find the strike zone....) He says...
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Hitters have to go to the plate with a plan and execute it. Yes, hitters can get fooled on a pitch and get punched out. But this sounds like an unprepared at bat.
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I mean, that observation is brilliant. We could observe Pete Rose or Babe Ruth or Mike Trout doing the EXACT same thing and draw the EXACT same conclusion as what is being discussed here. I'll take justbb's advice one step further - chill out people, chill out.
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Is he doing active takes where he starts his lower body on every swing? https://youtu.be/GYDV0ScWq_k
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Or if you can't stand listening to bobby for 15m just watch this https://twitter.com/CoachJeffL...567129606078464?s=09
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Thanks Dominik, Yes his fundamentals were what they should be, appears to have just been a one time mental block. If it doesn't continue he should have another good year.
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4 PA 2 AB, 1 for 2 with a single the other PA's were a walk and a sac bunt
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Appreciate everyone's insight and knowledge as always. At this point no reason to think it will become a consistent problem so we will keep monitoring but if it occurs you have all provided some sound advice to consider. Thanks!
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Probably got caught expecting a ball. His timing was off. Or it was the mental issue of having to deal being down 0-1.
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So what's the problem? He was off his game one at bat. Sure, he could have had a better mental approach in the failed at bat. But, it's one at bat.
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RJM, Now that you broke the ice, yeah, that was my first thought as well. One step further: If batters didn't screw up a LOT, then the games would last way too long. That's how I console myself in the 3B coaching box.