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Pain in arm (like electric shock!!)
My son will be turning 14, has been complaining on and off about a 'shock' type pain in his throwing arm. This happens only when he throws hard, and not every time he throws, but more often that not, and at least for the past 2 years of Travel Ball....
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Electric shock/numbness when throwing hard
I am a college pitcher and as soon as I get to throwing hard I get numbness or a shocking sensation to all my fingers except my thumb. Any suggestions on what I should do to help this? This has been a issue for almost 2 years now.
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Could be a pinched nerve. Your son may need to see a PT but first he needs to see an orthopedist ASAP.
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Originally Posted by JCG: Could be a pinched nerve. Your son may need to see a PT but first he needs to see an orthopedist ASAP. Thanks. Why do you think he needs to see an Orthopedist? just wanted to understand your reasoning!
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Your son has severe and persistent pain in his arm. A medical doctor has the tools, training, and experience to diagnose what is causing the pain. The medical specialty most closely associated with this type of potential injury is Orthopedics. An MD who specializes in sports medicine may be of help, so that would be a good alternative, but he might end up asking for the orthopedist's opinion.
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Sounds like a pinched nerve issue to me. Kind of like when you hit your "funny bone." I'll second the Orthopedist asap. Good luck.
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+100 on the Orthopedist. I would look to an Orthopedic group that services the Pro, D1, or Semi-Pro teams in your area. My son's Orthopedist happens to be the team doctor for our local MLB team - pretty qualified to treat arm issues.
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Sounds like an ulnar nerve issue. Follow the advice by posters above.
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A good sports physical therapist would be my first stop. Mechanical issues at the elbow can irritate and entrap the nerves at the elbow. The poor old elbow will get beat up because of mechanical issues above and below the elbow. It isn't as simple as an "elbow injury" typically. The difference between a good sports physical therapist and a good orthopod, is that the orthopod will typically focus on the elbow only (which is his/her job) and focus on the "symptomatic" area (which is a needed...
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If he has been having issues for this long, I would also offer that he may be doing something incorrect mechanically that is stressing his elbow. You may want to have his motion evaluated by someone other than his current pitching coach. I say that because if he does have some sort of mechanical fault - it is obviously something his current coach is not seeing. There are a couple of advertisers here that might be able to offer that type of service remotely.
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Definetly sounds like ulnar nerve. I strongly suggest that you send him to an ortho before you do anything. Because you have let this go for a long period of time there may be damage to the nerve. The nerve sits in a groove in the elbow. Sometimes the nerve will not stay in the groove and slips in and out of the groove. This action causes irritation to the nerve. A test should be done to determine if the nerve is still viable. The doctor may also consider if there has been any other issue...
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BTW sons first diagnosis with a PT was not what it actually was. See a sports ortho.
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I believe Dr. Andrews is in Pensacola, which is a pretty good ways from Tampa, and he's scaled back his practice. But if the OP will call his office, or contact ASMI.ORG through through their website, I'm sure you'll be able to get a referral to a doctor in Tampa.
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+1 to sowilson's post....ask who treats the Tampa Yankees guys, or UT players. I am dealing with a persistent groin injury with my 15 yr old....took him to the ortho group thats treats the Pirates guys yesterday....MRI is up next! Get him looked at sooner rather than later, don't put it off
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Who treats the tampa yankees is the team doctor where ever he may be most likely in NY. Call Andrews office.
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Dr Daniel Murphy, of the Tampa Orthopedics and Sports Medicine group, is the Team Dr for the NY Yankees and the Tampa Yankees...it may be worth checking into
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The specialist is Dr Ahmed in NYC. He is the one AROD Let the buyer beware . Call Dr Andrews office for assistance. This is a youth player not a full grown adult. BTW doctors bid out for the rights to treat a teams players and you will find them in every city where the team has an affiliate. Mine got a bad diagnosis from the doc who treats the team he was on. He was not the team specialist. Just a suggestion but a doc affiliated with a team is not always the best. Why do u suppose most...
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Interesting. FWIW, when I contacted ASMI for a referral for my son, Dr. Fleisig recommended the SF Giants orthopedist, who trained with Dr. Andrews.
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Yes they will refer those they have trained with. Thats why I say call them. This is a youth player having elbow issues. So I would see who they may refer to in area. Keepin mind many of these team docs specialize in certain body parts. If my son is having elbow issues go to a guy who specializes in elbows. FYI when son was with the cardinals it took another doctor in NYC to diagnose his issue...rare cortacoid impingement...took 3 seasons of pain discomfort and dl and doc alchek got it right...
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So I followed the advice and took my son in to see an Orthopedic Surgeon in Tampa. He took X-rays of both shoulders and deducted that the pain was due to "Little Leaguers Shoulder". My son has been asked to ice his arm at least 3 times a day and NOT do any throwing/pitching for at least 6 weeks, at which point we will see him again. Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions. It was what made me take him to the doctor in the first place :-)
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Glad you started the process, and have some direction. Six weeks is how long it takes the body to heal up. My concern is that in six weeks, you are still in the same boat, as nothing that caused the flair up (in the first place) has been corrected. Again, the Doc is treating the symptom only, the elbow pain, with this approach. Noting that it does need rest, and he is correct, and not cutting on him in any way what so ever. Highest respect for those docs. I am completely on board with that.
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If the DR. is right and the treatment works you may have saved your son a ton of physical and emotional pain of a traumatic injury by simply asking the question. Good for you and for everyone here who jumped in to offer suggestions. Big part of the reason I spend some of what I consider to be my valuable time on this site.
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Originally Posted by Max S: So I followed the advice and took my son in to see an Orthopedic Surgeon in Tampa. He took X-rays of both shoulders and deducted that the pain was due to "Little Leaguers Shoulder". My son has been asked to ice his arm at least 3 times a day and NOT do any throwing/pitching for at least 6 weeks, at which point we will see him again. Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions. It was what made me take him to the doctor in the first place :-) Was this an...
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Little League Shoulder is a growth plate issue. I quick google search shows recommendations of physical therapy during recovery. I would dig a little deeper. Good luck.
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I don't get how pain in the elbow got diagnosed as a shoulder ailment, but what the heck do I know.
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Is it possible the poster meant to say elbow and accidentally substituted shoulder? That would make more sense to me than a shoulder issue causing the elbow pain.
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ask your trainer for a referral to a orthopedic specializing in pitchers elbows... If in fact there are any looking at thi board they would not make any assumptions without seeing you. Everyone else should have zero opinion.
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Ulnar nerve entrapment - yes, I am a MD. U need an orthopedic surgeon.
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LeftyMagic..... you have the creds..... just wanted to make sure the young man and this thread didn't go off the rails and give ignorant opinions.
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Good call from Bacdorslider not to come here for medical advice. Follow his advice. FWIW my son had ulner nerve entrapment. He also needed an elbow cleanout. Recovery took longer than expected.
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Unfortunately my college trainer does not seem to think that this is a serious matter, I have gone to a neurologist on my own and all nerves seem to be functioning well according to the nerve test that was conducted, that being said it has left me wondering what It is. I have switched from almost all the doctors in my area because they seem to ask for my symptoms and just give me anti-inflammation pills and pain killers or tell me to try and play a different position. Prior to this injury I...
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They only granted me a MRI for the spine and the neurologist said that it looked good.
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16yo had tingly feeling and elbow pain last year once he grew to 6' and started trying to throw harder. Nothing structurally wrong, but he has had to learn to throw all over again. At this point he is able to throw without pain, with the same or better velo, but his accuracy and finer points of pitching are still a work in progress with his new motion. I am not a doctor, but my wife is. While she understood the diagnosis far better than a lay person, she would emphasize that orthopedics(or...
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I have not felt pain or numbness coming from my elbow while feeling the electric shock feeling in my hand. sometimes when shrugging I can feel the numbness shoot through both my arms and when my neck cracks I can feel it somethings too. I am on a long waiting list for orthopedics. Thanks for your response I appreciate it.