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IMHO, the simple answer is YES . . . particularly in California for California schools. For example, it's not unusual for a good 2 yr. JC student getting into Cal Poly.

Has he applied to UCSD (high level D2)? Do you think he could play at that level?

Yes. I've seen a number of kids go to our local community college and then transfer to the University of Illinois to get the their engineering degrees. The counselors are dialed into which classes are transferable. The student-athlete really has to hit the ground running with the grades. The four year engineering schools have more respect for certain JC's than others, you can talk to their admissions people as well. Can be done, and it will save a lot of money.

I reviewed this thread quickly, so I might have missed it but I saw no mention of University of Texas at Dallas. They are a top ranked engineering school & play really good D3 baseball. It's worth a look.

I am surprised I haven't commented on this yet, but I can offer insight into the JC to Engineering thing. Calculus transfers, Chemistry Transfers, English transfers, Physics transfers, along with other classes. When you graduate from the four-year institution after transferring from the JC, all that matters is what it says on your final degree. You do well in the above noted classes and other ones you need to at the JUCO, you'll have no problem getting into just about any Engineering school...

Thanks so far, guys.. answers to questions... he is leaning heavily toward mechanical engineering but some interest in aeronautical. My son played in same conference as UCSD last year so I think I have a pretty good feel for whether this player would fit at that level. He is a small LH CF with definite D1 speed, excellent defense, great swing mechanics. He definitely has the passion and work ethic to succeed with college ball (although I don't know the extent of added difficulty engineering...

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I think UCSD used to participate in a transfer program that guaranteed admission, but that's no longer the case. See the "Transfers" section of this page. I would imagine this route is highly competitive, but might be worth the risk for your player. San Diego Mesa to UCSD sounds like a pretty good college experience to me. http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/curric/SOE.html

Even if his dream school looks to be out of reach, keep encouraging him to aim high, as it's particularly hard to achieve those dreams otherwise.

If he's interested in aeronautical he should look into Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. They are one of the top schools for that discipline in the country. They are in the process of moving to NCAA Division II. And the campus is in Daytona Beach, FL.

Saw this and was about to reply with a 4 year school idea, (Colorado School of Mines) but then realized that that's not your question, and that your question has been answered -- yes, it's feasible. But there's another question that's harder to answer. What are the chances that a student who matriculates at a JC will graduate from a 4 year school in 4 or 5 years? Those are hard numbers to pin down, in my experience. I did find this page: http://www.thebestschools.org/...leges-united-states/...

I can add my 2017 looked into UC-San Diego very closely and had dialogue with the coaches. Engineering as a major going in was not an option--not even with the coaches support. They said they could get him in through another major, and then each year there is a competitive transfer request process that he would have to take his chance with against all of the other students wanting to get in, the vast majority of which would not be challenged by playing baseball. My son agreed that it would...

LOTS of great information, guys... thanks again. I will make sure he gets on here to put good use to all of it! He applied to School of Mines and recently found out he was denied... numbers may not be right but he said something about falling short of the 4.3 GPA they were looking for. I think he had three or four target schools with the JC route as a backup plan that is attractive to him. I'm fairly certain that he didn't dig deep enough to have a really good understanding of the specific...

So, what is missing from this thread is a successful JC baseball player who transferred into an engineering program and continued to play D1 or D2 baseball (per CabbageDad post). If anybody has gone down that path, we'd like to hear from them. Certainly, I undertand the goals; 1) play baseball in college 2) get an engineering degree from an accredited school 3) only pay for the necessary courses to advance/transfer into an engineering school My opinion is this is really difficult to pull off...

Fenway, I basically went down that path myself (with minor variations) although it was along time ago. I only played 1 yr of JuCo and transferred to D1 w/ major of Architectural Engineering, which is not near as demanding as Electrical, Mechanical, etc. It required an extra year for me to be able to keep a 3.0 GPA and meet the time demands of baseball. Also, the time demands of D1 baseball have gone way, way up since back in the day. Its basically a full time job now. Having said all of...

I went to the University of Illinois for Mechanical Engineering, and I knew of and worked with several students who transferred in after two years, and they were successful. As mentioned, have to do your homework on what's transferable, what the school is looking for, etc. With the cost of school getting beyond ridiculous, I think this will become a route more take.

Adbono - Good feedback especially on your opinion about taking more than 4 years in todays world. That makes a lot of sense to me. FrankJP - were these JC engineering transfers baseball players at Univ of Illinois?

Exactly the college I referred to.... a few guys I know did this, one played one didn't. As mentioned above, probably would turn into a 5 year program these days; there could be a way to leverage any "redshirt" offering because the player is focused on his degree while continuing his play.

fenway - no doubt you have as much experience on this topic as anyone. I'd like to add that transferring from JUCO to Engineering school is painless - assuming GPA and course requirements are met. The first two years of Engineering are basically the courses I outlined in my above post. They consist mostly of math and science along with some humanities like English. A student who does well in the math and sciences will basically start their 4 year school as a junior. The 5 year option is not...

Statistically the odds are long for a combined engineering and baseball experience and when you put in the additional issues of how a 4 yr baseball program recruits the transferring from a JC to a 4 year program makes it even more daunting. ... but the JC route is a great way to go to reduce the financial burden of a likely 5 yr process for many.

No, they were not. I was referring more to to the question of transferring in and the success they had, especially at a highly rated engineering school. Best of luck, can always use more engineers!

After 2020 the discussion on engineering taking 4 years or more may be a mute point. There has been discussion since 2006 about changing the Model Law (by NCEES) for engineering licensure to a Masters or equivalent (MOE) degree. It was suppose to take effect in 2016 but got postponed until 2020. There currently is discussion of extending it further but that is not a done deal yet. If NCEES adopts the new model law then a four year degree may not be a licensable degree. Engineering students...