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Affect of Corona on ‘21s and ‘22s

camb3232 ·
How will the cancelation of this season affect the recruiting of 2021 and 2022 grads? Lots of juniors are still available and correct me if I’m wrong but there are programs throughout D1-D2-D3, JuCo that are still recruiting ‘21s
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20 year old freshmen

josten beato ·
im gonna be 20 soon and starting college this fall at St Thomas Aquinas College D2. i lived in the Dominican Republic and practiced for 2 and a half years. hence the reason I'm beginning college ball this fall. I'm a lefty pitcher 6'4 220lbs and can hit 87-88 consistently nasty change at about 80 mph and a good curveball at about 76mph. do you guys think i have a legitimate chance of getting drafted as long as i throw 90-91 by the time I'm 22 ???
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RJM ·
Plenty of players are drafted at 22. Since you see yourself as a pro prospect why aren't you a D1 prospect?
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josten beato ·
thats a good point. but the thing is i wasn't really highly recruited out of high school. i improved drastically in Dominican republic.. I'm also considering attending a D1 and walking on but I'm not really sure what to do. i just need to go somewhere where i can play. you see?
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RJM ·
What has the coach at St. Thomas Aquanis told you specifically about your opportunity there? Did he give you a portion of an athletic scholarship? Are you talking about the D2 ST Thomas Aquanis in New Hampshire? If so, why did you choose to play baseball at a cold weather school?
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josten beato ·
No. St Thomas Aquinas College in NY. I actually have a cousin that plays professional baseball Pedro Beato. He knows the coach there so he recommended me to go there. It's a place that will guarantee me playing time. It's close to where I live also
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josten beato ·
He told me it doesn't have to be D1. Sometimes d1 isn't the best option. Just need to go to a school that offers me playing time.
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WestCoastPapa ·
Keep improving your velocity and try to be one of the top pitchers in your league. Get help in getting the word out to scouts. If you have pro-stuff, they will definitely take a look at you - especially a lefty with good stuff. Important thing is that you improve because an 18 year old freshman lefty with the same stuff will be looked at much closer in terms of projectability than a freshman going on 21. Good luck - you never know how much further your hard work will take you.
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josten beato ·
Yea. The fact that he's played in the majors I think will help when it comes to getting some looks. He knows a lot of people. But I'm going to continue to work hard to try to throw 92 asap. Anyways thank you for your time
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TPM ·
If you attend a Div 1 or 2 program, you can be drafted at 21 depending on your birthdate. So you do not have to put in 3 years. We have never seen you pitch so we cant give opinions on the draft, but you do sound like you have the skills. Best of luck.
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josten beato ·
Yeah. I worked very hard in the Dominican Republic. I went there throwing 76 and came back theowing 87-88. And I'm going to continue to work hard. Also would I have to get drafted when I'm 21 and can i also get drafted as a 22 year old ?
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TPM ·
I suggest if this is something you really want to do, research. Its not as easy as you may think.
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josten beato ·
I know it's not. I've been around the game my whole life. I'm just realistic. I know I have what it takes. I'm putting the work in and that's what matters. We'll see how far I get
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lionbaseball ·
Hard work and confidence will take you a long way. Good luck.
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josten beato ·
Thanks appreciate it fam
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2forU ·
Find someone who has had TJ surgery, ask for their rehab program, and work that into your pitching workouts (if you are not doing this already). Protect that arm. Oh, and get good grades and graduate, just in case.
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josten beato ·
Yes I will do. If I don't have this arm i don't have anything lol. Education is just as important as baseball. Thanks !
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josten beato ·
My cousin that's a pro Pedro Beato also had TJ surgery
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Dominik85 ·
As a pitcher if you throw 90 plus and you can throw strikes you have a chance. I would suggest doing a program like driveline or wolforth that has a reputation of increasing velocity
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josten beato ·
Yeah. That's what I'm aiming for 90-91. Not too far from. Currently throwing 88. But thanks for the advice fam
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RJM ·
90-91 is a good target for college. If you want to go pro you have to aim higher. Remember you're not going to be twenty-one in three years. You're going to need to be further along if you want to be a prospect.
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josten beato ·
I understand. But I'm a lefty. I don't necessarily have to throw as hard as righties. I did some research and saw a lot of lefties touching 90 and good change up and curve and are projected to be drafted in the 4th and 5th rounds. So I definitely want to aim a little higher as far as velocity is concerned but honestly I feel I do have a chance to go pro. As long as I work hard and believe in myself no one can stop me
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TPM ·
If you really want to get drafted you should be going to a JUCO because as RJM said you will be 23 in 3 years and your projection might be on a downhill curve at that time and where you think you should be drafted more than likely may not happen. Also, while you say it doesn't matter playing D2 vs D1 that is an untruth. While you are at 87-88, no one can predict that you would be even at 90. You have to remember that the body slows down, and much is about your genes and training and...
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PGStaff ·
Josten Beato. Based on your own description, you definitely have a good chance. 6'4 lefty with MLB average fastball and two other quality pitches will get you drafted or signed. Work on mastering all your pitches. Lefties with one plus MLB out pitch that they can command often have long careers. Try to get into a summer college league. Best of luck
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TPM ·
I agree with PG, that is why I feel he should go to JUCO and not wait until he is 23 from a D2, if what round you might be drafted in, is that important. I am talking a high profile JUCO.
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josten beato ·
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josten beato ·
Yeah. The description I gave is an honest one. I was close to getting signed as a free agent in the Dominican Republic so I really think I have a good chance. But anyways thank you so much.
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josten beato ·
No actually the round doesn't matter to me. Getting drafts is a dream of mine whether it's the 1st or the 40th. And I am considering JuCo but I also want to major in Computer Sciences just in case I don't make it in baseball. But I will consider a JuCo. Thanks for the advice
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josten beato ·
And actually I don't have to wait until I finish my junior year. I will be eligible for the draft once I turn 21 during my freshman season
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bandera ·
We won't know until the NCAA says what happens with the lost year of eligibility for this year. If the current players get an extra red shirt, the following incoming classes will have to compete with a surplus of bodies for scholarships and playing time. School budgets aren't set up to absorb any extra players. So paying for the extra red shirt year means cuts to the numbers in following classes or running off more than usual to make room.
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old_school ·
The only thing I am sure of at this point is the NCAA doesn't give a damn about it student athletes. I do think it cares about its member institutions, at least to some degree. I expect whatever it decides to do will help the budgets of the largest schools with the most money and the rest won't matter. I hope I am wrong on this one but the NCAA is one of the very few organizations that is a bigger POS then our government bodies.
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LousyLefty ·
Very little knowledge of the idiocy of NCAA However I wonder if this wouldn’t be one of the few things lawmakers would be good for? It would be good PR for them and someone else would need to clean up the messy details of what they pass. Maybe simply a proclamation that all student athletes in college will not lose a year of eligibility and have the option to return if they are seniors....?
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Iowamom23 ·
Big10 says no on or off campus recruiting activities for the immediate future.
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Goosegg ·
Spoke to a Pac-12 HC yesterday. Everything is moving so fast, many issues haven't been addressed (though the issues have been identified). The first issue addressed - on a priority 1 emergency level - had to be Public Health issues. As others have noted about their players, his staff and players were very emotional, confused, disappointed and angry over the seemingly abrupt cancellation. Neither he nor his players were remotely aware of what was happening with the virus, so they felt...
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chazball ·
Tough to say. NCAA will be under a great deal of pressure to be flexible here, but they're not prone to logic so who knows how that's going to go. My 2022 is planning on using the time this spring (assuming his season is canceled) to get bigger, stronger, faster, better and do a lot of emailing in advance of his summer season. We may also have time now to do more campus visits. Kids need to understand that, while not ideal, this is an opportunity for them if they use their time wisely.
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RJM ·
Campus visits? To see an empty campus? Coaches won’t be meeting with anyone until they’re told they may. I don’t mean to pick on this poster. I don’t believe a lot of people are grasping the situation. And I’m an optimist. I’ve been able to function in my every day life. But I’m not expecting it to continue. Every day I stop by the grocery store to buy an item to see if panic buying has set in yet. So far it’s just hand cleanser and toilet paper. When it becomes food I want to know it’s time...
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chazball ·
I don't feel picked on, that's ok. Yes, to see an empty campus. My son still doesn't know what type of school he wants to attend, so while he has some time off of school and I have some flexibility at work, we may go do that. You don't have to agree, I'm fine with my decisions. I grasp the situation. And I'm no virus denier. I am fully aware of the situation and am dealing with life as it presents itself to us. We have the same shortages, we have the same challenges, but our family is...
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camb3232 ·
As a 2021 Grad, I’m taking this all with a grain of salt. Here in New England, specifically VT everything is in limbo with our hs sports season. Personally I’m using this time to continue to keep in contact with coaches and send video, email, and summer ball schedules out. Will be interested to see how this affects everything but I am not hampered or worried. What an interesting time in our lives though, this is unprecedented
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smokeminside ·
I hope that's all this time of our lives is: interesting.
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Ozone ·
Looks like all NCAA baseball will be shut down. They haven’t decided if they will allow practices but that being said there are thousands of recruits that might press the panic button. I sent out a mass email to my PSA’s letting them know we will still be following you in one way or another. It may be through videos it may be through small groups off-campus. Make sure you contact your targeted coaches to see what their plans are. Hopefully the high school season will come back or at the very...
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Ozone ·
A few thoughts on the recruiting nightmare this will create. The NCAA has all but shut down recruiting so we all need to think outside the box. I got many calls from members of my site but everyone needs to let things settle before they make decisions. Many of the already recruited players are being asked to red shirt since the programs will have less slots (seniors taking advantage of the extra year). A lot of the PSA's are scrambling to get out of their LOI's and transfer to a school where...
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camb3232 ·
As a 2021 with a few D1 New England schools keeping in contact with, I’m honestly a little nervous. No offers yet but had schools planning on attending high school games and travel ball. Now unsure of both. While keeping in contact with those schools, I’m realistically broadening my area to other schools and divisions. Also sending another new wave of emails to around 60 schools. Twitter has really exploded over the past view days. My retweet on flat ground has 1,000+ views in less than 12 hours
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OskiSD ·
Ozone, thank you for this - many of us don't know a college coach personally and your words are really helpful for me and my '22. Condolences on the season and best wishes for health and prosperity going forward.
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PitchingFan ·
You are also wasting your time sending emails or anything at this time. Many coaches, if not all, have been threatened with loss of job or loss of scholarships if they recruit in any form during this time. They cannot interact with anyone who is not on campus in any form during this time. Some as far as cannot watch film or anything considered recruiting. So if you do send something you should not expect a response of any kind. You will not know if they have read it or put it back or what.
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PitchingFan ·
I think you will have to do what's best for you and your team. I just find it hard to believe that a freshman coming in will be able to legitimately compete with a 23-24 year old. The top freshmen will be okay at the schools they signed with but the middle and bottom of each recruiting class will find there is no room at the inn. They will be pushed down a level or to another school. I think as a parent the best thing that a coach can do is be as brutally honest as they can as early as they...
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Ozone ·
It’s a difficult situation for everyone. But please don’t stop contacting coaches sending videos and any information about where and when you’ll be doing showcases or workouts. Yes there is a moratorium on recruiting but that does not preclude Recruit from contacting a coach.This too will come to an end and recruiting will resume and it would be good if all your information were already in a coaches database.
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RJM ·
Re: Competing with 23 or 24yo redshirt seniors If they’re that talented they likely left in the draft already. Prospects don’t want to be 23 in short season. Typically most are 21 or at worst 22 other than the 18yo top prospects.
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RoadRunner ·
PitchingFan posted: You are also wasting your time sending emails or anything at this time. Many coaches, if not all, have been threatened with loss of job or loss of scholarships if they recruit in any form during this time. They cannot interact with anyone who is not on campus in any form during this time. Some as far as cannot watch film or anything considered recruiting. So if you do send something you should not expect a response of any kind. You will not know if they have read it or...
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TPM ·
Rules are different between Div 1, 2, 3. But you are right, don't stop contacting coaches.
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TPM ·
Road Runner, Thanks for that update directly from the NCAA. As far as I know, coaches have not been threatened in any way. There is a lot of untrue stuff info going around that isn't true, so everyone pay attention and follow the NCAA.
 
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