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Really.You got a full ride, no college costs?
This is where the rubber hits the road. Baseball at all collegiate levels is a rabbit warren. Paying for college, athlete or not, is daunting. I thought it would be helpful to those who are starting the journey to be aware of the the actual net costs. I saw a very successful coach (multiple sports)from Baltimore with the PCA speak to our LL board. Her succinct advice was less practice more library. So what I hope is that we post the type of school, (D3-2-1, JC, naia, public private and...
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D1 Recruiting Rule Changes
Anyone care to weigh in on the changes to D1 baseball recruiting that were adopted last week? Here's an overview of the proposals if you missed it: https://d1baseball.com/features/division-council-adopts-baseball-changes/ It's interesting to me that the article leads with the change to official visit policy. Tell me if I'm wrong, but coaches don't like this because they will end up having to spend more money to bring their recruiting targets to campus during their junior year whereas under...
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2015 Northern Virginia HS Showcase Camp @ GMU
2015 Northern Virginia HS Showcase Camp @ GMU Grades 9-12 Location: Raymond H. "Hap" Spuhler Field Saturday, September 5, 2015 to Sunday, September 6, 2015 Camp Cost: $250.00 Link: http://collegebaseballcamps.com/patriots If you have any questions...
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2015 Northern Virginia HS Showcase Camp @ GMU
2015 Northern Virginia HS Showcase Camp @ GMU Grades 9-12 Location: Raymond H. "Hap" Spuhler Field Saturday, September 5, 2015 to Sunday, September 6, 2015 Camp Cost: $250.00 Link: http://collegebaseballcamps.com/patriots If you have any questions...
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See topic "NCAA announce re fruiting rule changes" already in discussion.
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Re: Really.You got a full ride, no college costs?
I haven't done all the math...I just keep writing checks. Working with a bunch of families on college recruiting across a variety of sports. The "full ride" stories in baseball always come up! My 2012 had baseball scholarship offers ranging from zero to 85%. 100% if you count the service academies. Of course he picked one with 0%...and the school did not offer merit schollies either. My 2016 (who had ok ACT scores but not great by any means) had zero baseball scholarship $ offers. But he had...
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Tuition, room and board $20K Baseball $5K (25%) Academic $6K (3.6 GPA, 31 ACT)
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Really.You got a full ride, no college costs?
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Total Tuition at the University of Missouri at St. Louis (UMSL) - $20,114 per year. ($9,474 per year in state.) Books $1,000 per year. Room and Board $9,640 (Included in $20,114) Scholarship athletic-$4,000 per semester. ($4,200 as junior and senior) Mark Twain Scholarship - $500 per semester (1,000 per year and is academic scholarship) Various others - Covered the rest of the tuition. (Example, $500 per year teacher's education scholarship.) I've posted this before but all totaled, we paid...
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D3 Tuition- $50k Academic money- $25000 3.8 GPA ACT 31 84-86 MPH FB
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I could have written this exact same post almost word for word as it mirrors my two sons' experiences. Same results for mine on the same thought process.
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We emphasized academics and fitness. The kids achieved at both. They got 50% tacked on for academics. I was 34 and 38 when my kids were born. Where I was at professionally allowed me to save from day one. I targeted 100k for each. My target was accurate. It was an assumption of full price for our in state Big Ten (which neither attended).
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D1 Private university: $38k tuition, room and board. Went up to $41k by his senior year. $36k total combined yearly scholarship amount. $23k baseball scholarship all four years. $13k academic scholarship all four years.
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JuCo Tuition (in state) - $3,000/year Books - $1,000 Living expenses (off campus apt) = $5,000 (includes food, gas, etc) Total cost per year = $9,000 Aid (state grant per year) = $3,000 Net cost per year = $6,000 x 2 years = $12,000 total D2 University Total Cost of Attendance (out of state) = $26,000/year - Room/Board = $8,500 - Tuition/fees = $13,000 - Books - $1,000 - insurance = $1,600 - Misc = 1,900 Aid -Baseball Scholarship = $9,000 - Grant = $2,250 Net cost before student loans = $14,750
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Here is ours. D3 TOTAL COST 63000 Baseball Trip 500 We provide gloves, bats, shoes. No uniform fees. (Grant 31,500) (Scholarship 7,000) Our out of pocket $24,500 Our Ride is roughly 60% College Loan 1500 Work Study 1500 Fed Stafford 5500 We are using a payment plan to try to do this out of pocket rather borrow. Our goal is that he graduates with >3.0 and owe less than a nice new car. He got a 29 on ACT and is not a pitcher. Would he have gotten this without baseball? Maybe. Would he have...
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I've posted this link before on my own website and on this site: Linfield College scholarship calculator . Every year, colleges are becoming more transparent in their Merit Aid scholarships. Just look up/google your favorite D3 with the word Merit Aid and see if they have one on their website. Insert your player's GPA and test scores, you should see a fairly accurate number pop up. The Linfield calculator was accurate for the merit money our player received in his acceptance packet and, just...
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Private D2. 32,000 a year. 18,000 athletic scholarship, 12,000 preferred student academic money (GPA above 3.0)
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Thanks all who have posted. I will try to post a percentage range of "ride"s. Would love to get some d1 percentages. I recall Brian O'Conner saying that you should be happy to get books paid for sometimes.
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Pretty sure 13 yo's don't know you have to pay for books in college.
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I remember vividly having to pay for college books...they changed ONE word and poof it was a new edition at full price...*grumble-grumble*. Then again, when I was in high school I remember having to put book covers on my books on my first day of school, now they all have e-books and my son has a couple of work books he brings home, but that's about it.
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Private D3 Total Cost 67,800 Scholarships /FA 66,600 Son worked in summer paid the 1,200 I have paid for travel and room stuff, computer... ACT 34 GPA 4.5 RHP 87-88
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I hope we get enough participation to help out someone behind us be more prepared. Can I ask exactly how this information is expected to help out someone behind us? For starters, the data looks like it is going to be skewed towards the high end (who really wants to post about their kid getting the minimum D1 scholarship at 25% and nothing else?). There is tons of information about college costs and academic monies available that will be far more applicable than what is captured here. I...
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Hopefully where it helps is having a more realistic estimate of what the reality really is? My kid plays good, somewhat smart. What can I expect as a percentage? That really is all. FWIW if my son received a d1 with min I would have no problem sharing that.
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I also remember Coach O'Connor saying publicly on numerous occasions, "No one gets a 100% full ride (as far as strictly baseball $) in his program." He elaborated by saying that he wants all his players to "have skin in the game," as he called it. Now, how close to the 100% line he's willing to go, I have no idea? I have heard over the years about kids getting 100% rides for baseball at various programs. The cynic in me has always doubted it, but why not? Coach's discretion how he divides...
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When you hear 25% (or insert percentage here) athletic scholarship, what is covered? Is it just tuition, total cost of attendance, room & board, books etc.
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So is a funded "1" scholarship equal to the cost of tuition or tuition plus room and board? Just interested to know. One of the schools (DII) that has been talking to my 2018 mentioned during a camp this year that they carry 40 plus players on the roster and bring in typically between 6-9 freshmen per year with only 3-6 of them receiving athletic $...coach mentioned he likes to spread it out, but looks at need based as well when deciding who gets what. If this specific DII was only fully...
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Just got a PM from a poster who just blew my theory out of the water. Of course if a coach is willing to give you 100% in baseball dollars? Take it!
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My son got an offer from a very low rated (both academically and Baseball) D1 that would have covered 100% of the cost of attending. Because of his grades he'd get a lot of academic money and they promised to make up the rest in baseball dollars to cover 100% of his costs, fees and books included. He passed for another D1 opportunity and ended up with 80% of his college costs covered by baseball scholarship, academic money and a state grant. I know of several players who attended the low...
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My son got what amounted to 25% of tuition and room/board.....no books, etc. On his NLI, the number was listed as $XXXX, not 25% of anything. He gets half of the $XXXX each semester. He's on campus now, so it just comes off his total bill (tuiton, room/board all comes on one bill). Once he moves off campus next year his money will just come off his tuition cost since his rent will be paid to someone off campus. Between his baseball money and academic money, he'll basically be covering...
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My son will be playing at an NAIA school next fall. They will be paying tuition, fees and dorm. My son considers that a full ride. He forgets about food and books. -And for full disclosure: he has his choice of staying in the dorm, or $5000 towards an apartment.
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If it was a school in Georgia they have the Hope to pay 100% of tuition as long as gpa stays north of 3.0 I think. That would allow GT or UGA to recruit primarily in Ga from a deep pool of talent and bring in 2-4 high percentage players from out of state. I had a friend whose sister was a great pitcher and he said that schools w/out a Hope type system hated recruiting against them as (his sister among others) got huge $ to leave home state. Being smart is still the best safety net. WVU RC...
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HOPE scholarship in Ga now closer to 60% of tution and the number continues to shrink. Paul Coverdell much higher but requires a 3.75GPA out of HS. A few schools in bordering states now match HOPE dollar for dollar.
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I would have no problem sharing a minimum 25% D1 scholarship either, I'm just saying that a true representative population is probably not going to come forward and post. If you have some level of knowledge, which I assume you do given your interest, it would probably be more helpful for you to outline a "typical" baseball scholarship and then discuss how academic monies can be brought in to potentially cover the gap. Getting a bunch of folks posting "full ride" combined scenarios doesn't...
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D1 with stipend $39,122 per year. 65% athletic scholarship All books, fees and tuition are covered, remaining $ covers rent ($450.00 monthly.) We pay for utilities and food. Total out of pocket cost is around $3,500 per year not including summer/holiday travel costs.
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My son had several offers from D1 schools in CA ranging from 25% to 80% of total college costs: A couple private schools with costs at $64K offered 80% and 60%, a couple state schools with costs at $33K, one offered 25% and the other 80%. So took the private school for 60% as it was his dream school. This was back in 2010 and I'm not aware that any of those schools gave any baseball player a 100% full ride, but it was possible to get 100% paid for. For example, if son had taken the 80%...
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I don't know any "verified" D1 guys who got 100% just for baseball. You hear people say "so and so got a full ride". I assume they don't know the percentages of athletic/academic or may not even know that every baseball kid doesn't get a full ride like football or basketball. Yes, I personally know some that are 100% combined. I'm sure there are probably some who get 100% in baseball money, but if you look at what taking 1 full scholly out of the 11.7 does to the coaches options for other...
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Sometimes the parents of a baseball player will claim a "full ride." There was a parent I knew quite well that made such a claim and at the time I accepted that as true as I thought she knew what what she was taking about. The following year my son was being recruited by the same school and in talking with the coach, he was pretty adamant in stating that he "NEVER" gave or gives players a "full ride." I don't feel the parent was trying to be deceptive, but I think to her "full ride" meant...
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While I think this is a very worthwhile thread started by Runitout, I would have to agree with Screwball that there is certainly a posting bias in play. Those who get/got a good portion of costs covered are going to be far more likely to "play along" here than those who got relatively little. I'll try to provide some balance... of the few dozen or so players who I have information on (with an information reliability level of good to excellent), I would say the average is 25% - 50% of costs...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 25% minimum required if a player is receiving athletic money is based on total cost (tuition + room and board). I don't think a school can give you 25% of tuition only as a baseball offer.....ex) if your schools total cost is $10K tuition and $10K room/board, you're required to get $5K, not $2500. I'm sure it can be worded differently, especially if you live off campus, but the total value is based on tuition + room/board
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That is my understanding. If total cost is $20k, then minimum must be $5k based on my understanding of D1. Once you get away from D1, my knowledge begins to wane as it relates to allowed scholarships and minimums. That said, other classifications (NAIA, JUCO) do have vastly different rules which I am certain are spelled out elsewhere on this board. I haven't done any research, but would love to know the relative increases in tuition versus increases in room & board over the past 10 years...
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My kids both go to State D1's here in Ohio.....the tuition + room and board is virtually identical if you're in a dorm, roughly $20k and $21K. My daughter is a senior....her total cost (tuition + room/board) has gone up about $3500 since she started 4 years ago. Tuition is almost exactly half the total amount at both. My daughter is off campus now. Costs for her are ridiculously high compared to most other schools as the entire area within about a 3 mile radius of her school is all college...
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Buckeye, I have had players/parents tell me of offers that were flat $ amounts that came out to less than 25% so I don't know if these offers were somehow non-athletic $$ or in some instances, maybe a different set of guidelines for NAIA???
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My son is at a D3. Tuition & Fees - $30,905; Room & Board - $10,350; Books - $555. Total: $41,810. Plus we have so far paid roughly $400 for fundraising and clothing. Academic Scholarship - $17,000; Other school aid $9,400; State Grants $3,200; Pell Grant $1,365; Outside Scholarships - $6,020; STudent Loan $3500; Out of pocket (529 Fund) - $1,325. The key for any athlete is grades, grades, grades! The better your grades; the more money a school will give you. The one thing I would...
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Well my son just signed his NLOI and he's headed to a state D1 where his tuition is fully covered and books. They do get a stipend when travel is involved. He will live off campus in the athletic village which will be 500/month. So not sure how much food will run us. Also not sure about any academic money or fafsa as of yet. We are pretty pleased with his offer. From what all the MLB scouts and coaches we know have said "he'll never step foot on campus." So who knows about that as all of...
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Yup, that's what my son experienced at a private D1 school.