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Some good new data on colleges and majors
The Dept. of Education recently published the most detailed data I have seen on earnings by major at each institution, as well as debt levels at graduation, etc. Links are below. This info ought to come with some caveats. For example, the salary numbers are for the first year after graduation, so I assume a lot of the Chemistry, Biology, etc. majors were in medical school. Graduates who were still in school weren't included in the "average" calculation, but it seems to me that most kids who...
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Dallas Tiger High School Baseball Tryouts, May 7
Texas high school baseball is coming to a close and we have a few remaining roster spots available on a number of our Majors level Dallas Tiger summer high school teams. We are looking for both position and pitcher-only players. This could be an excellent opportunity for young men to receive the best visibility to college and professional scouts. Many of the best high school tournaments are invitation only throughout the region and country. Getting the best looks for our high school players...
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Do Scouts value HS baseball enough for a player to toil In a bad program
*Old Post About Skipping HS ball...*
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Tryouts and Teams 12UAA and 14U Major
Please visit this link to sign up for our 2018 Spring/Summer Tryouts ! We are looking for 4 players for a 14U Major level team and 4 players for a 12U AA team. All of our coaches are former college/pro players. We also have a 12, 500 sq. ft. indoor facility with 12 lanes and a full climate controlled weight room! We have won over 100 tournaments and have had 112 graduates and 105 have gotten college scholarships! We also accept full teams that may want to make the jump to select ball. Please...
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Isn't that pretty old news that engineering, medicine, law, economics, computer science and related fields pay best? Those jobs are simply most needed in economy, you only need so many people in gender studies, literature, sports marketing or arts but tons of engineers, lawyers, doctors etc are needed by economy.
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To a point, definitely. (And some majors are unlikely ever to pay very well.) But seeing the granular data has some value IMO. Although the word “some” is doing a lot of work in that sentence. I ended up in a field that literally didn’t exist when I was in college. You have to “learn how to learn” and keep acquiring new skills. I don’t think college majors matter all that much, except in broad strokes. But when trying to decide how to spend four years and $275k, it’s good to have all...
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His HS program won’t matter much to College coaches or pro scouts. His baseball tools will matter. And how he performs at top showcases, e.g., PG, will matter.
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I’ll add that IMHO kids should play for their HS. Not doing so will raise questions.
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Recruiting coordinators and pro ball scouts don't really care about HS ball stats......but a red flag goes up if they DIDN'T play HS ball. Your son doesn't want to be 'That Guy' . It creates suspicion and can make your son look like a tourney kid who is an 'I guy' He's a baseball player and he attends High School. So, keep it simple.......Play on your High School team
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Thanks for the advice.
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Welcome to the site! Disclaimer... I'm a HS coach. If he is as well connected and talented as it sounds, it most likely won't matter in his college recruiting process and any pro interest. But, as others said, it might. Still, to me, that's not a reason to decide to continue playing HS baseball. If his HS program is only one step back from his summer program, that's not that bad, really. I guess I'd have to hear just how bad. Only you and he know the specifics. Does he have his HS friends...
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I don't know that my son is learning a ton about baseball from his HS baseball. His team was not very good his freshman and sophomore years, but was better last year and hopefully will be still better this year. His coach is a nice guy, but not the best baseball coach in the world. What he's learning from HS baseball is how be a leader, how to bring kids along who may not be as talented or as motivated as he is, and how to work respectfully with a wide variety of people. And every time he...
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Frankly there is no reason not to play for the HS. HS sport are just that HS sports. Not about recruiting and the next level stuff. Putting on the school uniform, playing against those rival schools, making memories, and having fun.
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My daughter attended a high school that had a 32 game losing streak during the two years before she played. No one remembered the last time the team had a winning record. She was part of four straight conference championships. When my son got to high school baseball had seventeen losing seasons in the previous twenty years. He played on two conference champions and a second place finish. Both these programs remained quality programs after they left. They were proud to be part of a new,...
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I think the program doesn't matter much if he does well in showcases. However I would definitely advice against quitting the last year. HS season is short and he still has enough time to play showcases or travel in the summer and fall. It doesn't have to be that way but some college coaches could see not playing the last HS year as a character flaw or a case of too much entitlement/being a "diva". Maybe he could explain that but I wouldn't take that chance. Just play those 3 or so months, be...
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Robrod, I've walked a mile (probably more) in your parental shoes. Play high school baseball would be my advice. It gives your son different and new experiences than he can get with his travel team. Here's the funny thing...my son got to choose his high school. He could have played for the best team in the district (1.5 miles from my house) with the best high school coach in the state in my opinion. He didn't. Yes, it was painful at times. Once the travel and showcase season rolled around,...
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Travel baseball as the boys get older becomes a business...the sense of team is marginal, the "free agent" market is constantly changing rosters, friends come and go and come back again...it is all about me and what is best for me. I am fine with all of that, it has its place - so be it. HS baseball is just fun, it is your boys you grew up with, your community, your school. There should be very little pressure from what you have stated, enjoy it. It is 2.5 months or whatever and then back to...
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Rob. Sent you a PM.
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The OP sounds like I did back in the day..... I had one that struggled with this. Will he feel the same way in college. You know not wanting to play in college so he can focus on the "real" team pro ball. See how that sounds, feels, comes off? I can assure you as good as he is and I don't doubt that, there are others as good or better... I have had many many P5 coaches to Special asst. to the GM tell me that character is very very very important. So I get it, HS ball can suck at times,...
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HS coach here as well. If your son has talent and comes across as mature and humble when talking to coaches he will be fine. Overall it is frustrating to play for a lesser team but there are so many things to get out of it than just baseball. The college coaches will know he plays for a bad HS team and they will want to see how he handles that obstacle - does he show up everyday ready to compete, how does he treat his inferior team mates, how does he handle the losing and things like that.
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Rob Where shall I begin. I picked the school district to live in for academics.Had no kids at the time. Never giving sports a thought. How was I to know that I would have 3 sons who were athletes and sports was all they cared about being at a small D4 school. Fast forward. My oldest son did everything your son is currently doing. He did not play middle school baseball only travel ball. He was recruited to play high school ball by private catholic schools that were D1 some of the best in my...
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Good advice here. My 2019 has experienced a number of challenges with HS ball and most likely will not receive a fair opportunity to play as he would in a different program. The level of competition is generally acceptable and we play some quality opponents as our State goes - but there are other issues with our particular program. I have often considered whether he should just let it go and focus on training and summer. In some extreme circumstances, that may be best. But our son decided...
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To me, the bolded statement is the real issue. He's got to figure out how not to take a step back in the spring due to the weak HS program. The best way, IMO, is for him to own the process of getting better and not place blame on the HS program. Be the hardest worker during HS practice and take the opportunity to be a leader. Continue to work out with his hitting coach and fielding coach in the evenings (if need be, put your foot down with the HS coach on this point, rather than quit). Hit...
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Play HS and enjoy representing the school. Keep in mind that there are many, many kids (especially here in California) who don't have the choice and, no matter how hard they work, are cut from their high school team each year.
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Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth I played high school ball. One year we were 10-1 when I pitched and 1-8 when I didn’t. I was often pitching out of error induced jams. My pitch counts had to be high (not an issue then). It never dawned on me to quit. My teammates were my friends. I felt an obligation to make it the best season possible. As a parent of a 5yo and newborn we selected a school district based on academics. The high school stunk at all but country club sports. It all changed as...
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Need more details Valid reasons (in my opinion) to not play High School Baseball: Injury concerns. Arm getting abused by coach. Coach not willing to change the arm abuse. Other than that, unless the Coach is a complete sociopathic criminal, or engaging in overly excessive behavior such as punching players in the face, telling pitchers to intentionally throw at opponent's heads, sexually harassing the player's Mom etc, I'd say go play...
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Couple things I'd like to add- 1st, as far as the step back goes- my son experienced this last season. He'd been training his ass off over the winter and when the season started was pretty much in peak form ready to roll. When HS season kicked in neither the workouts nor the practices were as rigorous as what he'd had in the off-season and as a result near the end of the season his velo was down and his pitches were suffering. He went the entire first month of the season without giving up an...
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Only slight overuse issues... I would say that learning to deal with that pressure is a good thing... embrace it.
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All good input. YES, play ball! There is much more to learn from being a leader and simply competing for his team. It's easy to play for a good team and adversity will only make him better! My '18 has played for a very weak HS program. Every player plays the game for the enjoyment of the game, most seldom seek playing after HS as their goals are different. He helps his peers with pointers when asked and supports his teammates leading by example. NEVER discount what the HS coach or program...
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Yes, agree and would add... perspective. Is there really a lot of pressure for a bad HS team? They are not expected to win so there is only tremendous upside. Maybe he can shift some of his efforts from being perfect to helping others be better players so he doesn't have to be perfect. That can go a long way for him, his teammates and his HS program - IF it is done with good attitude and perspective. This type of pressure is really nothing compared to what he is likely to face going forward.
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IMO, not a valid reason to not play HS ball. What will he do if the college team he commits to ends up being "not good". As others have said the college coaches will be wanting updates from his HS coach from time to time. If he tells a college coach he stopped playing because the team "was not good" it is going to work against him. In addition there is the possibility the college guys find out he was playing HS for a while and stopped. They may decide that want to put a call into the HS...
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My son played for what is probably the only HS in America to have 3 first round draft picks and current Major Leaguer's as well as a good number of other good college level players transfer out. It wasn't the coach was a jerk or anything like that, he just played players by their grade, not their talent and you didn't play varsity till 11th grade no matter how good you are. Imagine a first overall pick playing JV in the 10th grade. In 5 years on the team my son played in only 12 games at the...
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If he can’t handle the weight of the high school team on his shoulders he’s a long way from having the required mental and emotional discipline to compete for playing time at the college level. He should play high school ball just to work through handling the pressure. Chances are there will be frustration and pressure at the college level. Everyone can play. Will he be mentally ready when he gets his shot? What happens if he’s hitting .240 and knows if he doesn’t perform better he could end...
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Robrod, Again, I know what you're thinking and going through. Not easy to be on losing or average high school team and good enough to be on a 16U Perfect Game WWBA Championship team.....that was my son a few years ago. He hated losing but it gave him new opportunites to stand out, separate himself from others, and be a leader on his high school team. My son is not much of a talker. He led by example, and it got the respect of his teammates, opponents and other coaches in his District. A...
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A lot of high school programs are "easier" than travel programs. HS teachers/coaches can't be hard a###s anymore. And unless they play even worse competition, they will have their opportunities. My kid has faced several D1 pitchers at the high school level. It keeps you sharp.
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Depending upon your location and family circumstances, you may want to consider the private school option.
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Scouts do not come to watch teams. They come to watch players. The obvious metrics are easy. Arm strength, athletic ability, ability to hit, power, fielding. You learn a great deal about the make up of a player when he his getting his teeth kicked in and he plays like he's not. You learn a great deal about a player when he's down by 10 but you can't tell by the way he competes. Scouts understand that HS teams can be bad. They understand you can't control the quality of your team mates. How...
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Last night 2018 was playing in a scrimmage, 6-7 teams there scouting. The umpire lived three houses down from me, you might think 2018 was to get at least a fair zone..... nope, Ump was concerned about favoritism and gave him a clowns mouth against a team that won the state championship last year. BTW it was 42 degrees... first batter K's , second batter K's third batter hits a normal ball at SS, soph boots it to third base. fourth batter hits a pop up in foul territory on the right side...
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Softball but same difference. There's a girl here who's forgone HS softball and just did the TB thing. And we have an exceptional program, going unbeaten in the regular season most of the 7 years we've lived here with a couple of state titles . Don't know if it's a coach/player thing or what but she committed to a top level DI program recently. Also checked out her Twitter and noticed a few of the HS players commenting and liking post so doesn't seem to be any animosity.
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The top soccer academies are telling their players (D1 and pro prospects) you will not play for the high school. Maybe there are less soccer coaches who played the game at a high level and know the game than baseball.
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So for all these reasons, no reason to get your nose out of joint if your D1 prospect Sophomore kid is playing with his buddies on JV and they move up the son of the asst coach, his buddy, and the son of the booster club president? Or am I wrong about that?
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I have one soccer player. In our area many of the soccer club coaches didn't go to an american HS with sports. They may have no idea what HS camaraderie is all about and selfishly are just trying to keep their lucrative soccer coach gigs, by controlling the product. Sadly we've reached a tipping point in baseball where HS programs are just for fun; but since you can't do both at the same time, there's a conflict. I think state athletic associations should eliminate that restriction but...
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I certainly do not see that we've reached that tipping point with baseball. The majority of top HS age players still play baseball for their HS. Yes, of course, a legitimate travel team in a given area will typically be slightly more competitive than the average HS in the area. This only stands to reason. The travel team is likely to be made up of a handful of the best from each of the area HS's. Most HS age players that want to play "just for fun"? My observation is that a good many of them...
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Well, there would have to be quite a few assumptions made that may or may not be true in order for us to answer your question. One thing I can offer up with near certainty... If we are talking about actually getting varsity PLAYING TIME, if that D1 prospect sophomore has already developed to the point where there is CLEAR SEPARATION between him and others getting PLAYING TIME at varsity, the vast majority of HS coaches would choose that player to get that playing time and give their team the...
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With the diversity of posters here you will hear every possible thing that could happen. In the big picture it doesn’t happen that often. Some of the time the accusation it’s an excuse why a parent’s kid isn’t on varsity. The “favored” is actually a player. Our rival high school coach was accused of favoritism with both kids. They both became D1 players. The one thing parents sometimes overlook is the coach knows what his kids can do. Another potential JV call up may be a mystery gamble to...
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My son was recruited by a couple of elite soccer programs. They wanted him to drop all other sports and not play varsity soccer. My son told them he’s a baseball player. He did play varsity soccer and went to an elite goalie camp.
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Son recruited and scouted in the Summer and watched during HS. They watched his approach, interaction with coaches, officials and players. They even attended his hockey and soccer games. These guys are looking for atheletes with good character. He played for a HA Prep School where the fastest pitch was 78 mph. Play HS Baseball, it'll be an unchecked box if you don't.
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I can't speak for pitcher's but for position players your HS can impact where you play at the next level. Better programs have better track records for feeding into college. It is also more competitive to make the team. Weaker programs Just the opposite. Hence the rise in spring leagues here in Calif. At Stanford camp I heard a Pac 12 RC tell the boys that one of the questions he asks head coaches is how many D1 players the head coach has had come out of his HS. If it has been few or none,...
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the more I learn about college coaches and evaluators the less impressed I am.