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Perfect Game 16u Atlanta// Question

mamabb0304 ·
Hi all, First time poster, thank you for the help in advance. I have a 16yo RHP, SS that will be travelling to Atlanta in July for the Perfect Game 16u National Championship from Texas. We have a team of players that seems like they will not be competitive to me. But, I wanted ask anyone's experience with this specific tournament. We have 2 pitchers that pitch over 80MPH, and 3 pitchers that pitch in the mid to low 70's. In state wide play thus far we are 3 wins and 5 losses for the season,...
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3and2Fastball ·
1 Catcher certainly isn't enough. 14 players seems like an awfully small roster for 16 U. How many games are guaranteed in that tournament?
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mamabb0304 ·
Hi, Its a 7 game guarantee over 6 days. With Standard perfect game pitching restrictions. After the 7 game guarantee there will be a championship bracket, but you have to play in. What I want to avoid is spending the money and the time from work (1 week), to attend a tournament that we will not be competitive in.
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old_school ·
you will not be competitive
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nxt lvl ·
5 pitchers is going to leave your team a little short. We went last year with double that amount. Do any of your position players pitch??
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mamabb0304 ·
We do not have any Pitcher only's, we only have position players who also pitch. We have a couple players that we have not utilized at all for pitching who train for pitching and could do well given the chance. Which, it seems they will get if we go. Here's a question? If everyone pitched, would 14 players be enough? It seems as if it would take careful planning to make the pitching rotations work for that many games. That is 2 pitchers per game with everyone pitching.
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mamabb0304 ·
Thank you for helping us figure this out!!
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3and2Fastball ·
In my opinion, no. Best case scenario that I can see is you will not be competitive and nobody gets an arm injury. That is the best case scenario
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keewart ·
A thought: I think you can go back to last years list of teams for that same tournament (check perfectgame.org). The rosters are listed. Check out a few to see how many players are listed and what positions they are. Here I did it for you: https://www.perfectgame.org/Ev...eams.aspx?event=3327
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Texas 2 Sons ·
Are you talking about the WWBA July 7-14? If so, that is the biggest PG tourney for 16u when it comes to the amount of teams and the quality of teams. I wouldn't consider going there with no less than 10 pitchers and at least 6 of those being PO's. Most good teams you see there will have 20+ players. You will probably not be very competitive with pitchers throwing in the low to mid 70"s. You will see a lot of mid to high 80's. Unless you have a bunch of D1 hitters and fielders, you will...
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baseballmom ·
You would be wise to "regroup". You really do need 2 catchers + a multi position guy to fill in...And at least 6-8 PO, with backups. To compete at this type event, a roster of 18-20+. Plan on HEAT & HUMIDITY! It will take a toll on these guys! You don't want to lose anyone to heat exhaustion (been there, done that with a catcher. NOT fun!) Keep 'em hydrated, potassium tabs & ice water cloths/towels in dugout.
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PGStaff ·
Your catcher better not get hurt and he will have to be an iron man. You do not have enough pitching. It is possible you could be c ompetitive for one or two games. Mid 70s pitchers can sometimes win a game with some luck, but they will not draw much interest. I would either pick up a few players, especially pitchers and another catcher. If that isn't possible, you need to contact Perfect Game ASAP and tell them your situation and that you are not coming. Last minute teams dropping out...
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Nonamedad ·
Just came back from a WWBA qualifier, 40 teams. We had 14 kids, 8 of which are good pitchers, and we still lost a game due to pitching. Hardest thrower in our pool was 90. Saw 1 86 and a lot of mid 80s. Our team had 2 84s, 2 83s and 2 that touched 80. There were teams that probably shouldn't have been there, but it is quite an experience for the boys.
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CaCO3Girl ·
My son plays 14u and we often see low 80's at these PG events, and high 70's is the norm, again that is 14u. Have you looked up pitchsmart rules? Here they are for 16u: 0-30 pitches = 0 days rest 31-45 pitches = 1 day rest 46-60 pitches = 2 days rest 61-75 pitches = 3 days rest 76+ = 4 days rest Max of 95 pitches per day With high 70's pitchers I would suspect you are more likely to have a 15-20 pitch inning than an under 10 pitch inning, so basically your pitchers are good for MAYBE 2...
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mamabb0304 ·
Thank you all for the advice. I agree that we are short on pitching and catching and am quite concerned about this. Unfortunately, it seems as if we have passed the window for a credit towards another event, they do not offer refunds. We will be in the situation of losing quite a bit of money. Seems kind of like we are in between a rock and a hard place. It feels like it's the wrong situation for the team, but we may just be stuck. We are from Texas, so the kids are used to heat, but the...
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baseballmom ·
Contact PGStaff asap! He posted above...Looks like he'd work with you, from his post.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Have your coach pick up some local kids. Here is a board that is for north GA: http://www.nwgabaseball.org/ Post in the "High School Team Openings or Tryouts section" asking for local players to join your team for the event. I'd open it up for 14u (Major) and up. The 14u's are done in early July and available....to be blunt, you need bodies so your kids aren't wrecked.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Here is also to PG pick up player board of kids LOOKING to play in that event: https://www.perfectgame.org/PlayerTeamBB/coaches.aspx
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wareagle ·
Its Ok! The only thing to do now is try to learn from it. You will likely face some of the better teams you have ever seen. Most likely will get beat, but keep a good perspective, stay positive. If your boys (and parents and coaches) stay positive and look around, they will see what they need to work on to compete at this type of tournament. You can still have fun, try hard and see what happens. Just understand that the numbers really don't add up for what you are carrying on your roster.
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wareagle ·
found the link: https://www.perfectgame.org/Pl...es.aspx?eventid=4457
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mamabb0304 ·
Thank you!! I will pass all of this on! I appreciate everything!
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Mercy Rules: 15 after 3, 12 after 4, 8 after 5 . Pool Play: All Pool Play games will be played with a strict two hour time limit Primary goals are #1) keep everyone safe from heat/injury and #2) have fun. At a minimum, try to get some decent scheduling with some games in the evening.
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mamabb0304 ·
@2017LHPscrewball This made me laugh, thank you for that This information may very well be needed as well!
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Buckeye 2015 ·
My son's team had 12 position guys (2 or 3 also pitched) and at least 7 or 8 PO's when we went. We played 8 games and really didn't have enough pitching for that amount...we'd have been in deep trouble if we went any deeper in the tourney. You might even start a new post on here asking if anyone wants to help out....at lot of GA/FL posters here who may have a son who would like to throw a few innings at that event
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nxt lvl ·
I have seen a few teams send emails out to players who are able to handle that level of competition and recruit nationally to fill their needs. There are plenty of pitchers who would love to get that exposure . Pitching in that event is quite an experience. Same for catchers. Get out and find more pitchers and catchers who can help your team compete...otherwise it wont be much fun and you will not have enough pitching even if you do manage to win your pool and move on to playoffs.
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Consultant ·
1submariner; "Teach yourself" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBjQMi-j9D0 Are you Lhp or Rhp? What do you throw on a 3-1 count? Bob
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Consultant ·
Exactly what I expected Bob
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1Submariner1 ·
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Submarine Pitching Coach

1Submariner1 ·
Hello, I’m looking for a submarine pitching coach in the Atlanta area. Preferably south. I’m in high school and trying to improve velocity and ball movement. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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adbono ·
Find a PC that was a submariner. My experience has been that only guys that threw that way themselves are good at teaching it. If you can’t find that make sure you find a PC that has a history of helping guys that throw from down under. Anything less than that and you are wasting your time and money.
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1Submariner1 ·
My splitter is a bit unpredictable. I can usually get it close. I rarely go 3-1 though. If the guy gets to first it’s because I tattooed him by accident. Get Outlook for iOS< https://aka.ms/o0ukef >
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Dominik85 ·
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TerribleBPthrower ·
How long have you been throwing submarine and what is your timing like? Are you trying to gain velo during the season? If you can wait until after the season I'd recommend looking into a place like the FL Baseball Armory. My son went there last year as soon as his HS season ended. He also throws from a low slot and they were able to help with command, movement, and velo. They also helped with his breaking stuff.
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1Submariner1 ·
I’ve been at it for 6 months. My arm slot kept dropping until it felt great at 9 o’clock. Then my Dad sent me to a Sidearm Nation weekend camp where I started working on Submarine. It was one weekend of instruction which really helped. I would like to be in the 70’s. I’m 60-65 now. I also want to make sure my mechanics are correct so I don’t mess up my arm. My season is pretty much over. I was looking for a summer local travel team to help keep me on the field. Maybe a summer camp or two...
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