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Re: West Chester camps
Never met the coaches but West Chester has traditionally attracted tough, blue collar kids. Their recent success in baseball over the years probably attracts more talented players as well. The school has always been considered a good education major school, especially Phys. Ed. There are other schools that are more expensive with more rigorous academics but West Chester has always been a good option for blue collar kids. I think their team make-up reflects that as well. Hope this helps. Good...
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?
I doubt if there are any rules to prevent this, but HS coach would likely not like this at all. There are unwritten rules that Select team ball starts after HS, as there is always a concern for injury and overuse, (especially with pitchers). If your son gets hurt playing on the weekend the HS coach will get very angry and make it harder for him and others to play on team in the Summer. That is why there is an unwritten truce.
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Originally Posted by Aleebaba: I doubt if there are any rules to prevent this, but HS coach would likely not like this at all. There are unwritten rules that Select team ball starts after HS, as there is always a concern for injury and overuse, (especially with pitchers). If your son gets hurt playing on the weekend the HS coach will get very angry and make it harder for him to play on team in the Summer. That us why there is an unwritten truce. Thank you!
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?
In many states, it is not allowed. I know in Illinois that applies at any level. Have seen freshmen teams have to forfeit games because of it..
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Your best bet is to contact UIL directly. Darryl Beasley, asst. ath. dir., 512-471-5883, dbeasley@uiltexas.org . You may want to consider the coaches position, if the JV player would be considered for a move to Varsity come playoff time. I'm in Dallas, & unless it is a reversal or a very recent change, I don't believe UIL would allow it. I know Varsity players could not. Son did attend a couple tournaments/showcases in the fall, missing a day of school each time due to travel, no...
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UIL does not govern activities outside of school; May students participate in non-school activities? Answer: Students may participate in non-school activities at anytime. This means that a student may play, practice or praticipate in a try-out for non-school teams The statement above was copied directly from the baseball manual in the Q&A section. The manual can be viewed on http://www.uiltexas.org/baseball .
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?
Yep, familiar with the above. OP didn't specify whether these were weekend tourneys, or otherwise conflicted with HS season schedule. That is the unknown factor. Times have changed.
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Had this come up for the first time last year and there were no real problems. Kid was a catcher. He did not miss his HS games. Only time it affected him was he had a weekend tourn and did not get in until 2-3 a.m. Monday morning and we had a district game Monday afternoon. He was dragging after 4 tourn games and getting in lat and then playing that Monday
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I would think that any HS kid that skipped a school practice or game, would very quickly find himself playing for the showcase team only, so there would be no further conflicts. Time spent at HS practice or games would not be "outside of school". School activities come first. I haven't seen much of this problem beyond freshman ball. Once you get to the older, the tounaments don't typically start till June, do they? My son's team will start practices in early May, but always on Saturday or...
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?
Thank you for all of the great answers.... Just to clarify.... There is no conflict between the high school team and the tournament team. High school games and practices are during the week. Tournament games are on the weekend. We had always heard that it was the coaches that didn't want their players playing and getting hurt outside of school, and then we heard that it was a UIL rule, but the UIL rules for texas do not actually state whether they can or cannot play during a district season.
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JeffLovin, My opinion only, but kids need an adequate amount of down time/ recovery time & study time. There is truth to the saying "there's only so many bullets in the holster"...During HS season, 2 games a week + 1-1/2 to 2 hrs a day practice, during a week seems like plenty of playing time for kids under 18 & not in College. After HS season is done, there's 3-4 days a week until mid Nov. That's still a lot of innings, AB's or whatever. When he gets to college baseball will consume...
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Re: When was your position player offered by any top academic? Any top academic offers to position players while they were Juniors?
My son is a position player in his Jr year. He has gotten some attention by Hi Academic D1- D3 but have been told that they want to see a complete three years worth of semester grades inorder to move to the next level. They are very reserved in making any more movements beside that. At least to MY son. It is about transcripts of three full years I was told by a couple RCs. I am anxious to see if anyone has had the same experience.
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Re: When was your position player offered by any top academic? Any top academic offers to position players while they were Juniors?
Concur, and my 2018 is in similar position.
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My older son is a sophomore outfielder at one of the "little ivies" to put things in perspective he was and still is 5'10'' an was running 6.7-6.9 s 60's depending on showcase and conditions. threw high 70's low 80's. He went to the Stanford All stars camp as a CF/P for rising Jrs and got some interest from a few d1s and d3's. no offers but some "we want to see and know you more" Sept 1 emails from d1's and "would you be interested in getting to know school"No real "offers" but did have his...
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2014 attends one of the D1 "public ivies". Plays MIF. Committed the summer between sophomore and junior years. He was playing 17u WWBA the first week of July on a field in the boonies, but several coaches were there. Son was up to bat, turned himself around to switch hit, and hit a bomb. One coach that was there, was not the head coach at the time, also attended an out of state tournament the next weekend and saw him again. He talked to son's travel coach after that event to set up an on...
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My son, who is a freshman at a D3, was first seen by his coach at HF in FL Fall of his junior year. He talked to his coach at a Top96 event that same Fall. Then in January they had a significant conversation about his grades, test scores and what kind of school he was looking for. The coach told him he needed to take a math and science SAT II and apply EA. Over the next few months, they kept in touch via email, and my son even got a hand-written note from the coach asking him to apply EA. We...
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Gov, you know my 2017 son's story; it closely parallels 2boydads, including SAT scores, size, and speed and what we heard from Ivy coaches, in particular, about what they want from their outfielders. Every high academic coach son dealt with (all private schools) became more interested after they heard his mid Junior year GPA and SAT scores. At that point we knew it was going to be about the baseball: if he was a good enough player, and they needed someone in his position, his academics were...
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Smoke, having done the HF Jupiter during junior year, as you did with your older one, my sense was if you had a big 88-90 arm as a junior you got some real attention. Vandy, Duke, William & Mary, Texas, and HPY were on the hunt to acquire top 2018 pitchers. I thought the combination of AZ Fall Junior Classic, then 3 weeks later to be at HF Jupiter would be a chance for my 2018 to be seen twice in front of the same group of coaches on his list. Son's tool is his glove with a line drive...
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Gov: Son recruited as MI/CF. Plays MI in college Offers ne High Academic D3 just prior to Junior year. One D1 (lower down on "Bogey's list") around start of HS season spring Jr year, 1 Middle of "Bogey's list" academic and one high Academic D1 (Ivy) mid summer prior to Senior Year. Another High Academic D3 offer came on Aug 1 before sr year, after son committed. Offers came after numerous sightings at Showcases (such as Top 96/Showball/HF). Start of junior year, list narrowed and he attended...
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Re: Freshman Future Is Now
Maturity is a funny word....as a freshman my son is going to try his hardest out on the field. He will dive into the wall to get a foul ball, no second thoughts about it. However, after he makes that catch he is also likely to go into the dugout and make a fart joke. He IS 14 after all :- )
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Wow! This is enlightening. I wasn't aware those who want it more and work harder tend to get ahead. Does this also work outside baseball? Or is it unique to baseball?
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ALL replies are appreciated. Would like to contribute more if I had more time, but always at a field or facility almost everyday living the dream. RJM anytime you would like to come out to our facilities or games, I encourage you to do so. You are more than welcome. We would be so greatful if you bestowed your knowledge upon us...definitely going to make the time to post more.
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I recall HS tryouts and son's freshman year. Hate to sound cocky but we new he would make the team, his goal was varsity. He did make the team and played primarily on JV (was considered 1 of 3 JV players who could play JV and varsity) but carved through everyone he faced with a sub 1 era for the season. Called up to play a few games on varsity at year end and i distinctly recall him hanging a change up that ended up in the stratosphere somewhere. Try to enjoy these times, they are...
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My son has tryouts in two weeks and I have talked to so many folks that have gone through it before and I am trying to just enjoy it all. I can definitely now see how you can miss it if you're not careful.
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Shu, I get the feeling you're going to enjoy the ride as much as anyone possibly can, and not just because your kid is a good player. Your head and heart are in the right place. My third kid is trying out for his intermediate team for the first time. Even with two sons having successfully gone before and even though I'm confident in his abilities, I'll be stressed out more than usual: he's a pitcher as well as a field player. Every pitch he throws is a nail biter. I hope there's a special...
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Re: Freshman Future Is Now
I was a little put off by someone coming on so strongly with the assumption he has all the answers for a board full of know nothings. I've already been through the process with two kids. I played college ball. I've coached 16u and 18u teams. There are plenty of people on this board with equal, equivilant or more experience. Know your audience.
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Appreciate the kind words, Smoke! I will say that when my son occasionally pitches, it's definitely more stressful.
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I couldn't stand it, if my kid was a pitcher. Too much stress on the heart, and then throw in the stuff that is outside of your control (officiating)...I could not deal with that! Hats off to all parents of pitchers!
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Hey Smoke (and all the other pitcher parents out there), Really envy you guys that have kids still pitching, miss those days a lot! Use to love the days the boy would take the mound and the more pressure on the outcome the better (lol). He wouldn't ever blow anyone away, was just really crafty at setting kids up and getting them out. He seemed to perform better when something was on the line. His Mom would wear holes in the pavement behind the diamond pacing back and forth, chewing on her...
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RSM crossing the line when you start insulting members and telling me what I should know...I'm just like you and so is everybody else in here. Chill out big dog. Not trying to block you. Someone might think in a community of baseball that we would have a ☺ supportive mentality towards one another. Instead of bashing. I'm through with you RSM...for your criticism and outright disrespect. You don't dig the way I write then kick rocks barefooted.
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I've already been through the process with two kids. I played college ball. I've coached 16u and 18u teams. There are plenty of people on this board with equal, equivilant or more experience. Know your audience. _--------- I did this. I know that. I was put off by that. Blah blah. How is any of that helpful to anyone? OP had an inspirational post and you have responded childishly. Use some of your experiences to contribute something useful. SMH
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Maybe we shouldn't go back to the regularly scheduled programing? Anyone else got any good kid pitching, parent stressing stories? lol BTW....go kick rocks barefooted was pretty funny!
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"I've already been through the process with two kids. I played college ball. I've coached 16u and 18u teams. There are plenty of people on this board with equal, equivilant or more experience. Know your audience." If you aren’t a freshman in high school, or the parent of one, you were not the audience.
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Wow! This is just getting good, no need to change the channel. In my opinion, I think RJM was just trying to tell H4D that we all know our kids need to be internally motivated, etc, and his motivational speech was playing to an audience of pretty experience baseball people. I don't think he was trying to brag on his credentials, just trying to share that many of the posters on this board like RJM, who has more post than I can even calculate, have walked many miles in his shoes already.
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I was the starting pitcher in the second game of a dbl header (two 7-inning games) for the very poor college baseball team I was on against the always powerful Lewis-Clark State. Was down 4-0 in the first inning before I'd even warmed up. L-C State had scored 10 (!) runs in the top of the 7th in the first game, so they were probably exhausted. Anyway, we scratched our way back into the game and tied it in the bottom of the 6th. I go out in the top of the seventh and the first guy up hits...
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I didn't tell you what you should know. I respect what anyone knows and what they can add.. I didn't care for how your post came off that no one on this board knows anything and you're the savior. I have nothing more to say. Enjoy your stay.
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I had to laugh....freshman son came home today and said "coach said on the field I'm great, but in the hallways my immaturity could affect my playing time."
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Love that story, Smoke, but it needs to be in the "strangest, funniest things that happened.." thread. As a LHP, there were a couple guys in Legion ball that just had my number every time. Didn't matter where I threw it, what kind of pitch, they CRUSHED me. I was a competitive SOB and HATED getting beat or getting hit hard. But these two... One of them hit a ball that looked like it was still climbing when it went over the full-height light tower beyond the fence in left center. I can still...
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Welcome Hitting4Dudes - great name. Don't let your start sway you, most interaction is positive, helpful and upbeat - as was your intent from my perspective
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While it's gone a bit sideways, I do like the idea of this thread. We don't spend enough time on this HS baseball website talking about HS baseball, and the OP is correct - the future is now. The first day of tryouts for real spring baseball is coming up here in CA very soon, and for a lot of Freshman (and their parents) it truly is a day that they have been anticipating and preparing for over past several years. I know that when my 2017 was getting ready he was really chomping at the bit.
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Agree. Except, one can't stay completely away when one needs to drop off or pick up the player from practice.
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The parents who hung around practices during my son's freshman year stuck out like sore thumbs, and not for good reasons. They are either viewed as trying to win favor with coaches or just unable to let go from Little League. My philosophy is help is asked, otherwise cheer for ALL players when it's game day.
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Parents do need to stay away from practice as best they can. Your kids need some time away from your critical eye. When my kids were younger high school players I picked them up after practice. If practice was still going on I walked near the field. Being a travel coach the high school coaches would engage me in conversation. It was general baseball/softball conversation. I wouldn't talk about my kids or other players. My kids asked me to stay in the car and wait. Rumors had started I was...
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How to make the high school team http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/making_the_team.htm
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HOWEVER, when little Timmy says the coach isn't playing him due to politics you might want to attend a practice before you believe that line.
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When my daughter was a freshman five freshman started. The previous year the team went 4-18 which included a part of a thirty four game losing streak. Mothers of upperclassmen replaced starters started attending practices and filming them. They were looking for ammunition to get the coach fired for giving preferential treatment to freshmen. The mothers never got their evidence. The team went from last to first. They won more games than the previous four years combined. The five freshmen all...
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Exactly, the instinct to protect children is strong, and while no parent wants to believe their child is lying.....well I would hope a parent would be willing to watch a practice before they do something rash.
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Amen to that fellas. I pace and go far away when he pitches. Funny thing is he had such a great year last year I started to relax and stay with everybody else by the end of the season! With the nee season I am sure I will be back to pacing - at least in the beginning!