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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice

fenwaysouth ·
Honestly, I think you've been given great advice by all above. Difficult to project "what ifs" for 2024 grad based on the information you've provided. Your best source of direction and information is to ask your son what he wants to do so he understands that the family is making this a priority and an investment in his future. If he truly wants to play at the highest levels possible (even at his age) there are going to be sacrifices made by him and the family. He needs to understand this is...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice

letsgo!!! ·
1. Balance will be very much defined by you and your son and how you interact. I never pushed my son one way or another. He decided what to do based on his personal preferences and opportunities. He played baseball/basketball/football through middle school. When he hit high school he dropped everything but baseball. While he loved basketball he realized at his high school and with his ability he would not get playing time. At fall baseball as a freshman he was topping out low 80s. With the...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice

adbono ·
This is one of the best posts I have read in a long time. There is so much good information that was touched on. Notice there was no mention of measurables, rankings, etc. Mention of focus on developing skills is spot on. Same for finding good coaches and instructors. Well done !
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice

RJM ·
I’m going to provide a point of reference with a team you are probably familiar as an example of how hard it is to look down the road. I’m sure you’re familiar with Tri State Arsenal. They're a powerhouse. We played them so many times from 13u to 16u I became friends with one of the dads. When our kids made their respective 17u teams he told me only four players from the 13u team were good enough to make the 17u team.
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice

PitchingFan ·
Ours was just the opposite. Played on top 10 national team from 9-14 then joined two other top 10 national teams through high school. Played travel ball until high school and played 9 months out of the year, but he also played football and basketball. Son played all the big tournaments from 12U up through high school and lived at Lakepoint it seemed like. Started all three varsity sports all four years in high school and played all summer and full fall schedule. So as Goosegg says no one...
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

Ripken Fan ·
David: My 2015 had considered Georgetown met with the coaches on several occasions (events/showcases) and attended the "Junior Day" weekend MLK weekend his junior year. Son knew the quality of the academics at Georgetown and value of Jesuit education. Their is stability at the top (HC Wilk) though all of his assistants are new. RC son had correspondences with had left school son's senior year of HS. If you don't mind the winter, DC is a great place to go to school. As for the school's...
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

sunwalkingvalley ·
We had mentioned this program with our travel coach. Our coach has been around a long time and is old school. That being said, he hesitated and stated that "the coach has a very strong personality. Some guys do fine with him and others have a hard time with the coach." Take that for what it's worth, but it definitely made us reprioritize programs.
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Gov ·
Ripken, that does help. Also, a nice reminder to check out facilities while you're in the "process". I can recall my 2016 being turned off by William & Mary's facilities while we were on a 7 college tour in 5 day. trade-offs with everything. Thank you
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

CatsPop ·
William and Mary has pumped millions of dollars into their athletics programs the past several years. It is the only school in the country, outside the Power 5 to have a student-athlete drafted from the basketball, baseball and football teams last year. In my humble opinion it is on the rise and definitely worth taking a look if you are ever in southeastern Virginia.
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

Gov ·
Good to hear CatsPop. Figured they were due for enhancing the facilities, can't do all of them at once. It's all about timing...
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

Branson Baseball ·
Sun and Ripken have provided some sound insight to the situation. Not everyone's cup of tea. Not for my 2012 that's for sure.
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

RJM ·
There's a board member with a son who played at Georgetown. He recently graduated. He still pops in once in a while.
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

dad43 ·
My son played for Georgetown University and Coach Wilk. My son had options coming out of high school but he had his priorities when making his decision. He wanted to play D1 (please no comments about why just D1, I agree there are many great D2 programs and D3 programs, but Like I said these were his priorities)…he did consider D2/D3 programs but a priority was D1. Georgetown plays in the Big East and his first few years it was the old Big East so he got the opportunity to play against some...
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Gov ·
Really appreciate hearing about your & your sons GTown experience. I'm confident I'll have questions. Hoping to hear about capital improvements to baseball facilities from someone. When did your done graduate, and what career field is he pursuing? Thank you. David
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

dad43 ·
Gov....he graduated this past Spring....double major in Finance and Accounting. He is working on Wall street. I am not sure but I think you can go on line and read about the new athletic building....like I said I think the baseball program will experience some positive aspects due to the overall improvement and additions. I wish they had done this years ago :-) Also I saw you asked about a JV program, there is none.
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

joemktg ·
Son works out indoors at the same baseball facility as the Gtown, and frankly it's a haul from DC to this facility (and then add on DC/VA traffic). That's a negative. Having said that, those boys get at it during practice: no BS, and they compete hard. They don't leave anything on the table. Let's not forget the most important factor: IT'S GEORGETOWN! One of the best universities in the country!!!
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mds1 ·
2015 RHP considered Georgetown due to family connections - Dad has an MBA from there many moons ago and sister is in the Class of 2016. He's played many times at Povich Field, enjoys the environment, saw many of the team's practices, and still thinks highly of the program. From a parent perspective, the only negative in my mind is the off-site field. Yes, the 15-minute commute to Povich field is possible, but even if that were the case every time, that's 30 minutes a day of likely...
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cluelessDad2019 ·
Reviving an older thread that brought into question the status of current facilities. Clueless JR will likely attend January camp, but thought i would share one piece of this mass mailing that updated current facilities discussion. This camp will take place on the Georgetown University Campus in our brand new indoor facility. Within the past year we have added a new locker room as well as we continue to invest in this program. As this is part of our continued effort to heavily invest in our...
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

Ripken Fan ·
That will definitely help. When my 2015 was looking there they would share some of the turf fields with other sports, though they had a batting cage on campus (that the coach said can be used at all hours). Their field would involve bus trips to Maryland everyday with a stadium that was used in a summer league and needed some TLC.
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BaseballAddict1020 ·
Hello all, Glad this was started as I have a question as far as interest. I got an email from the AC stating "Continue to keep us updated with new video and progress through the fall. Look into one of our winter camps in December and January and see if you can attend. Keep in touch." Would it be a good idea to attend one of the camps or should I just invite them to showcases I will be at? Thank you
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

dad43 ·
Son graduated a few years ago after the new locker room and hitting facility but they can only add to the great experience at Georgetown. He did not attended one of their camps but was seen at showcases and travel team games. I do know many kids do attend their camps and is a good way to get recognized. Be glad to answer any questions that a person a few years removed can answer...just send me a private message
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Re: Georgetown University Baseball - Any Knowledge, Experience w Program / Camps?

dad43 ·
I am not sure how hard if would be to do a pre med tract and play baseball at Georgetown. My son did do a double major which I thought was crazy but he was able to pull it off. I have heard at other D1 schools it is not possible to do a pre med and play baseball but I am not qualified to answer that question. Best thing would be to talk to the coaches at Georgetown and I know they will advise you. Hopefully somebody else can help you with the pre med tract question. Good luck!
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

RJM ·
A drastic difference in pitching? Compared to what? You will have two primary jobs in college; academics and baseball. You are about to find out how much you like/love baseball and how much you want it to be a major part of your life. Academics and baseball will fill most of your time.
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

Branson Baseball ·
Congratulations on your college acceptance! I'll echo RJM, college baseball is like a second job. Second to college academics. Hopefully, you'll really like your jobs. My sons have played D1 and D3 baseball. Schedule wise, the most substantive difference between the two is the number of Spring games and the impacts (travel, missed classes, etc.) that occur. Fall (while technically a shorter practice schedule at D3 than D1...in reality, not so much) and Winter are pretty similar. And they are...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

JCG ·
Terrific summary by Branson. But since the picture he paints is a bit bleak, I'll try to brighten it with a few upsides: 1 - You'll be spending A LOT less time in class, as much as 50% less. (If you're STEM it will ramp up later) 2 - Many kids who took AP or IB classes in HS report that college is actually easier. 3 - You'll be busy, but when you do have free time you'll be surrounded by great friends. 4 - College girls! 5 - No parents!
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BOF ·
All of the above, but doing it on 4-6 hours sleep...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

CaCO3Girl ·
The thing about playing any sport in college is that it is a full time job. I hope your parents are generous and understanding. Most college kids can hold down 2-3 jobs and bust their butts in the summer, you can't. Summer will hopefully be playing with a summer league and winter you will likely be taking courses to make up the light load of credit you take during the fall and spring so you can keep up with baseball. 12 credits is a "full time student", but 12 credits won't allow you to...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

RJM ·
When I played I sometimes felt owned. I felt like I had very little time to myself. But I would do it all over again. My kids felt the same way. Most who play feel this way. Fortunately I had a girlfriend who thought a good time was hanging out at games with other girlfriends. Dont skip classes. Keep up with your homework/reading. Being up to date is half the battle. Never make the mistake of telling yourself you will catch up next week. Hopefully you have such a good time with college...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

Coach_May ·
Just because they can doesn't mean you can. Stay focused. If you want to plow a straight row don't look where you have been but where you want to go. Be thankful for the opportunity. Earn it every single day. Good Luck
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

BishopLeftiesDad ·
Go into Fall in the best shape of your life. Be the Guy who comes in in shape and ready for the physical activity required. This will benefit both your academics and athletics. It will be much easier to study if you are not completely beat from workouts or practice. Stay in shape between fall and winter/spring work outs. When going home for the holidays do not slack or let up. stay in shape. Be ready to roll when you come back from winter break. I saw a lot of freshman come in out of shape...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

cabbagedad ·
Generally, every player that enters the college baseball environment is initially surprised at how competitive it is, regardless of level, and at the extent of time commitment. That said, if my deduction is correct, the school you are going to probably gives you the best chance at competing for playing time sooner than later. So, do everything you can between now and then to be prepared academically and athletically. The small average class size and school size will be in your favor when it...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

Trust In Him ·
All the above have great answers and suggestions. I would add this. As a freshman work your butt off in everything, especially practices. If you assume everyone's talent is basically at the same level, if you give that extra effort (110%), that may make you stand out in coaches eyes. It may not happen on opening day but work hard, practice hard, be a team player with encouragement, and something good will come of it.
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phillyinNJ ·
Outstanding posts by all...2018 is headed to a top regional D3, so I am going to redirect him to this thread for him to read.
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

old_school ·
time management, time management, time management...you will have plenty of time to do everything if you use your time well. If you don't...it is going to be a problem. My son is a what would be considered a competitive D3, they are serious, they recruit kids who they feel have fallen though the cracks a typical fall ball week besides classes is 5x a week lifting / conditioning - this started around week 2 or so of school and is the whole school year. Finals week I believe they have off for...
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ClevelandDad ·
I am not sure if anyone mentioned it in this thread (it seems like the message is how tough the experience is) but I thought I would like to mention something uplifting as well. If you apply yourself and keep your nose to the grindstone, all the hard work and effort will have seemed well worth the effort when you find your way on to the playing field. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is more exciting or thrilling than that. My son's dream was to win a championship in both high school and college...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I think you've gotten a pretty good idea on the biggest issue - time management!! My son struggled his freshman year with the time issues and had actually decided to quit baseball after the spring. He was about 12 hours from telling the coaches when a friend (former player, coach, etc) took him out to lunch and basically told him "hey, everyone feels that way after their freshman year". He stayed and is happy that he did. With regard to pitching that you'll see....answer these questions and...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

BishopLeftiesDad ·
This is so true. It may seem like a Slog at times but the reward is so worth it. Baseball will end for everyone sometime in their lives. Just never let it be for lack of effort, in academics and athletics.
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RJM ·
This concept may seem odd entering college baseball. It will make sense afterwards. A few years after finishing playing you will remember far more about the smiles and laughter on your teammate’s faces than the play on the field. You don’t play baseball forever. Some of your teammates will be friends forever. You won’t talk about someone’s great catch. You will talk about the shaving cream pie he took in the face.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Spot on. I played beer league hockey with two college teammates last night. We talk about our kids, our jobs, our deteriorating bodies, how bad we played... If someone brings up the 1978 MACHC championship, it's time to call an Uber.
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

Coach_May ·
I love the positive posts in this thread. CD and RJM or so right.
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

JLC ·
Here is a an article regarding a D1 baseball player. I would guess that other divisions aren't much different. This was posted on this site last year and I found it interesting. https://www.theodysseyonline.c...ball-the-16-hour-day
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

FoxDad ·
In answering the OP's question - the link JLC posted is a good indication of what to expect. My son's experience was similar. I've always maintained it's not just one full time job, but actually two - one as a student and one as an athlete. Though my son was not a pitcher (played 1B), that schedule was about what he had at JuCo and D2. Each day started a 5 am and he did not go to bed until after 10 pm. Spring was worse with an average of 4 games per weekend (a doubleheader each day) and at...
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

brosenyc ·
A few comments on D3 pitching. My son finished high school last year, did summer ball with other college players -- D3, JuCo, and some D1 -- and it went well. It was not a big adjustment for him. His high school team was not particularly good, but they played against some of the top teams in the area. He faced a few pitchers who were hitting 90mph. Most were not. Same with the summer league. Most of the pitchers were in the low to mid 80s. Control still an issue for many of them. The fall...
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JCG ·
Good thread, but going back to this question in the OP: Is there typically a drastic difference in the quality of pitching? I took a look at your league's stats from last year. The champion averaged 7.6 runs per game! Even the 8th place team scored 6.8 runs per game. Win your spot in the lineup and be prepared to mash!
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Re: What To Expect At The Next Level?

2019Dad ·
FWIW, over Thanksgiving weekend I saw two 2017 HS grads (a PAC12 player and an Ivy player, home for the long weekend) at my son's baseball game. I asked them a version of the OP's question: "Is college baseball super intense?" The answer I got [from the PAC12 player] were that the lifting is way more intense. Not even close. The baseball work (at least in the fall) was described by both as not more intense [perhaps due to NCAA limits on fall practices?]. Maybe that will change in the spring?
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BOF ·
This is a great thread and the one thing I see missing (at least I missed it) was the importance of mental toughness. My son who just got home for Christmas and I were talking about his time playing and he said the major difference to the guys who performed well throughout the season were their mental toughness. He said one of his teams top pitchers had nowhere near the stuff of some others, but he was a mental giant. No matter the situation he would control himself mentally and he was...
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Coach_May ·
So true BOF. While speaking to some former players the other day who are now in college they spoke about the importance of mental toughness.
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Trust In Him ·
Couldn't agree more. Start off by understanding the game, learn the game and this is part of the building blocks for mental toughness.
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RJM ·
Mental toughness is always being prepared. Never shift into “Woe is me, I’m getting screwed, I’m better than him,” mode. Shift into “Stay mentally and physically prepared to deliver when you get your chance” mode. Successful spot appearances can turn into bigger opportunities.
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Re: Quality 15U/16U Players wanted for Summer Team.

Andrew Carr ·
Its a shame you're in TX. I have 2 Lefty P/1B looking for a home this summer. Good luck with your search!
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