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Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
There is so much experience here on these boards, I just wanted to see what people thought who have gone through the process before.     My 2015 LHP has a 4.35 weighted and a 4.O unweighted GPA.  He just took the SAT in January and...
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2013 LHP signs

maclefty ·
My son signed last month to a D1 program that was not on our list of 20+ schools.  We had an algorithm of which schools would work academically and athletically and emailed, texted and phoned most of the coaches over the last year.  We...
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2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
My son is a current LHP sophomore and plays on his HS JV team.  The HS is a Div 1 4a school that was in the CIF semi finals last year and plays in a very competitive league and schedules always schedules top CA teams ( Orange Lutheran, Harvard...
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Re: Pitcher Development in High School - Importance of Facing Good Hitting

RJM ·
Make the best academic choice for school. Make the best baseball choice for summer.
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Re: Pitcher Development in High School - Importance of Facing Good Hitting

chefmike7777 ·
I agree with RJM. For my son's development it was about off speed pitches. His junior and especially his senior year, he could just throw his fastball by most hitters. For the better hitters, he utilized his CB and slider as well (pitching coach called pitches). He probably threw 90% fastballs. What he never developed in HS was a change up. He worked on it some but never was called in HS because coach felt that a hitter who could not catch up with his fastball, the change up might be within...
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Lost Dad ·
Thanks - my son's change up is probably his best pitch actually. His coaches love it. His curve is pretty strong but he continues to work at it.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Around GA the general consensus is Summer Baseball is where you will find the FAR better competition. As a side note, older members on the board....if this player does switch schools how does he have a health talk with a coach before he plays for the guy? We have all heard the horror stories of a talented pitcher being overused on a team, especially on a weaker team than he typically plays on.
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baseballmom ·
Just to throw another log on the fire...consider how you are prepping him for the "social" aspects of college...It is vastly different than the cocoon of home schooling or even private schools. Academics is priority 1. I tend to agree, initially, with the select team coach...and...I also understand the value of a school team. Challenging decision.
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ironhorse ·
In 10 years he may or may not be using his pitching skills. In 10 years he will definitely be using his academic and social skills. There's a cart and there's a horse. You decide the order.
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Lost Dad ·
FYI he is going to get a top quality academic environment regardless. He has been in a strong co-op and has excellent PSAT scores. His co-op is disbanding is the main issue of why we are looking at a university model private school.
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Re: Pitcher Development in High School - Importance of Facing Good Hitting

cabbagedad ·
If he plays summer and fall travel, that should satisfy the "face good hitters" aspect. The HS team experience will be a good opportunity for him to be a good teammate and leader under sometimes-less-than-ideal circumstances. If he finds himself in spots where he and/or his team is dominating, he can work on locating various pitches with a guy in the box, being less concerned with the outcome. This said, if the level of play is ridiculously poor, then other baseball options may be worth...
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Goosegg ·
FWIW, we faced the decision of where to go to HS: large public with good baseball, exposure, many social opportunities but limited ability to sculpt a good academic path or a small private with awful baseball and insular social life, but small advanced classes and an administration which would develop academic curriculum on essentially an individual basis. S is a LHP and he chose (much to our relief) the private school option. I believe the lesser baseball competition did effect his...
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IEBSBL ·
I have had 4 D1 pitchers come through my program in the last Decade. Education should be the driving factor.
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Scotty83 ·
Jmho for position players competition is very important. For pitcher? Well hitting a spot with as much velocity as you can muster is the same no matter who's in the box. The only thing that helps is learning what to pitch to better hitters but hey don't coaches call all the pitches now a days anyway.
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Following up on the last post by SCOTT83 - Does anyone have some insight into the pros and cons of coaches calling pitches? I am interested in the various levels starting in high school or age equivalent (assuming that is when you truly start having multiple options). I have always heard that in MLB there is often a split between pitchers and catchers as to who "calls" the shots - not an ego thing but rather which player generally does a better job scouting the hitters while understanding...
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Shoveit4Ks ·
Iron sharpens Iron - That being said, i suspect "most" kids who are seeking D1 scholarships or access to playing on D1 college teams are in it for the baseball first. One, as the dream and continuing to chase it to the Milb or MLB and secondarily the challenge/competitiveness to succeed and impact your character, i would suspect less are taking critically difficult majors with post-graduate-baseball income as the primary focus. If yours is...kudos to you. I would be curious to understand the...
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Re: ZacharyEggers 2016 LHP

CoachJackE ·
ODU bound
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Re: 2013 LHP signs

lefthookdad ·
Congrats to your son and best wishes!
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

Branson Baseball ·
Your son has a great academic record! He's a fit academically for many, many schools...easily. Both Headfirst and Stanford have an extensive number of D1 and D3 academic schools. Either (or both) camps are a fit academically from my experience with our 2012 and this year with our 2016. Go to the camps/showcases where his schools are attending. Likely both of these camps could fit if his list is a national list of top D1 and D3 academic schools. The primary challenge I see based on your post...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks Branson....yeah, that is what I was afraid of. Not sure it would be worth the $1k to send him to HeadFirst if he's still under 80mph. Wouldn't do a lot of good to spend that kind of money if he won't draw any Interest. Maybe just pick a few individual college camps and go to them. I think 78mph and 155-160 is a possibility by summer, but not sure if that wld spur any interest from schools like Tufts, Emory, or Liberal Arts schools like Haverford, Amherst or Middlebury, etc. i was even...
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BOF ·
The Stanford camp is not only about being seen and getting on the radar, but it is a learning experience about what college baseball is all about, living in a dorm, etc. For the value I would recommend Stanford over Headfirst. You can do a search here and see all kinds of information on both of them. I would also look into the Academic Game at the Arizona Fall Classic. He may not make the team but just trying out and getting on their list will get him exposure. You are actually in a great...
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BOF ·
Here is the D3 map. I believe there is a more better one than this. BishopLeftysdad would have it. Gives you a good visual on where the schools are. https://maps.google.com/maps/m...b3b44&dg=feature
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

infielddad ·
I am going to come at this pretty directly. While I am a huge fan of the Stanford Camp, I would be concerned that, with its size and your son's velocity, he could get lost. On the schools listed, it seems unlikely to me that most of them are a baseball fit. CLU, P-P, Emory, Tufts, etc. and baseball for your son, at this level, seems remote. However, as BOF noted, there are top academic schools which most of us in CA. would be accused of calling fly over schools to get from our coast to the...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

fenwaysouth ·
Well said infieldad.....well said. I believe that is golden advice. I would attend the event that your son has the best chance to stand-out, and I don't think that is the Stanford camp. HeadFirst is more focused on traditional D3 schools. In the long run, he'll have some academic options but it would be nice to expand that universe and add some baseball in the mix as well. In addition, for some of the elite academic schools with low admissions rates your son will want beyond 1900. He needs a...
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MidAtlanticDad ·
AcademicsFirst, I would have your son do some research on the LHPs who are currently getting innings at the DIIIs he's interested in. Some will have Perfect Game profiles with their high school ht/wt and velocity numbers. He might even find some guys who have numbers similar to his. Of course, he'll have to dig a little deeper to find out how those guys have progressed since high school, but it will give him some context. His expectations of playing time are also a factor. His academics...
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cabbagedad ·
Be aware that many D3 academics carry large rosters and/or JV teams. Tuition is typically expensive and many coaches aren't shy about encouraging lots of academically qualified kids to attend their school and try out for the program even if they are only marginally qualified from a baseball standpoint. If getting playing time is important to your son, make sure he has detailed discussions with each coach as to what his realistic chances are.
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BOF ·
There is such a wealth of information here. Great stuff guys. Infielddad's advice is spot on. The other thing to consider is the schools pitching program. My son's program routinely takes marginal D1 kids and develop's them into draft picks. What a lot of people may not see is that it also takes borderline D3 kids and develops them into solid contributors.You get that in D3 ball because of the larger rosters. They get there of course by their own hard work, which is in the weight room,...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks everyone...I knew I would get some great advice on here. The baseball team has a strength coach that works with them...as for his mechanics, he works out with a private coach and usually attends most of Jaegers camps. Bottom line is if he gets admitted to a school like UCLA, Hopkins, or Georgetown, he will probably go...and will just attempt to walk-on so he has some closure in his own mind. I don't see him deciding to go to some no-name school just for baseball. He has worked hard to...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

infielddad ·
AF, at the time our son got recruited, the D3 program was an absolutely "no name" to us and most everyone in his school It was also a "no name" to what turned out to be his roommate, recruited from Northridge. Our son went on to be drafted from the D3. His roommate is now with the FBI. The school's baseball program is now the top ranked program in D3, thanks in part to the contribution of BOF's son.. I think I understand what you might have meant about name recognition but it is also the...
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like2rake ·
AF - Go attend an Oxy and/or CMS game, take a look at the lefty pitchers, hopefully someone will be in the stands with a good radar gun. You might be very surprised at the true velocities....sub 80 MPH for lefties is not uncommon. There are very successful LHP in the Northwest Conference, even guys who made the All Conference team, who top out in games maybe at 81 - 82. The key is great location, movement, changing speeds, and maybe a funky delivery/arm slot. Good luck and keep at it!!
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AcademicsFirst ·
Definitely no disrespect meant Infield. Yes, I probably get too caught up in the rankings myself and only think of the big names, I myself graduated from Northridge, so I know it's not all about the name. its just so much to think about. We were at OU this summer visiting my dad and went on a tour. He can get $8k/yr in merit aid which would make OU cheaper than going in-state, but as much as I love Norman, he wouldn't play baseball at that level and part of me would like to see him strive...
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BOF ·
UCDavis is a great school, and is at the bottom of the BigWest, however they are recruiting as high a level D1 player they can find. Infielddad knows as much about the program as any since his son coached there. I would not waste too much time considering them from a baseball, perspective. His target schools should be based on what major he is interested in, what you describe could be a number of the Maryland area schools, Washington College leading the pack. Fenwaysouth and some others...
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cabbagedad ·
And BOF's post brings up another consideration... college club baseball. Schools such as Stanford, Cal Poly, Davis, UCSB, St Mary's, Cal, UCSD have club teams. This may be a great option if he has a challenging major and one of those schools happens to be a fit. http://www.clubbaseball.org/Teams.aspx
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Re: Arizona Senior All-Academic Tryouts

BOF ·
This was 4 years ago, but I don't think it has changed much. Pitchers tryout in the bull pens with coaches watching. There are around 8 mounds in a row that the coaches are watching. There will be a primary coach with a gun at each mound grading the pitchers. You basically have to be in the top 50% to be selected for the game based on the numbers. They are not pre-selected as kids are coming from all over the country and so are the coaches so I am not sure how they could do this. You should...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks BOF....I appreciate your insight as always!
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standballdad ·
Good luck to your son, my son will also be there for the Junior All Academic Game and tryout as a catcher. Glad to hear the rosters have not been set since we are also driving in from Socal for the event.
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BOF ·
Have them both relax and have fun. Just being on the tryout list will help them. True story, my son was on one of the interior mounds trying out, and I asked him how it went and he said "well I don't know how hard I was throwing, but it got the interest of the two coaches on either side of me as I saw them sneaking a reading from me a couple of pitches. His scout coach got two telephone calls during the tryout inquiring about him. So they will be seen before the evening game. Good luck to...
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Suds ·
While my son did not make the academic game, he not only had several colleges call/text him telling him they do not understand how he did not make it, but one of the schools that saw him during the try-out called and offered him! Originally Posted by AcademicsFirst: Hey Everyone.... Just wanted to see if anyone has gone through the tryouts for the Senior All Academic Game. Son is a LHP Senior in So. Calif. Foothill League and was invited to the tryout this coming Thursday, so just wanted to...
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standballdad ·
Originally Posted by Suds: While my son did not make the academic game, he not only had several colleges call/text him telling him they do not understand how he did not make it, but one of the schools that saw him during the try-out called and offered him! Originally Posted by AcademicsFirst: Hey Everyone.... Just wanted to see if anyone has gone through the tryouts for the Senior All Academic Game. Son is a LHP Senior in So. Calif. Foothill League and was invited to the tryout this coming...
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smokeminside ·
Academics first....how has your son's search turned out if you don't mind my asking?
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AZCollegeBallDad ·
My son had a very similar issue. He was a low 70's rhp late in his sophomore year. He went to throwing experts: Texas Baseball Ranch, AZ Baseball Ranch, and 212 Athlete to overcome his throwing issues, and develop a throw-training program that he could continue to work on. In 16 months his velo increased 12-14 mph. This is where I would put your money. Build the velo, then build the relationships one-by-one with the college coaches, at the schools that he is interested in. He attended...
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Re: Arizona Senior All-Academic Tryouts

tequila ·
This is an old thread but I thought I might resurrect it for a minute and see if anyone has had experience with this event in the last few years. My 2019 is not currently on a team that will be playing in the Classic but I'm considering taking him for the Senior All-Academic tryout. He's a catcher and, in communication with the event organizer, they said there are typically around 35 that show up at this position and they take 6 or so for the game. Now I don't know if he'd be one of these...
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Gov ·
look up thread AZ fall classic.... The Canada team out of Vancouver is an excellent option. The HC routinely picks up players from all over to bolster his roster. Also,look at past years teams that have attended, you may see other teams you can call.
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tequila ·
Will do and thanks Gov! I looked up "Senior All-Academic tryout," which is where I found this thread, but haven't really started the team search yet. I appreciate it.
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

fenwaysouth ·
In the context of most D3 academic schools.......If your screen name reflects his desires, his future academics and baseball team will most likely be determined by continued strong GPA and future SAT/ACT scores. Top academic schools recruit their baseball players through academics . Occidental and Hopkins are examples, but there are more such as the NESCAC conference. So, he'll want to be one of the best baseball players to get the coaches "tip", and have the best grades to get the...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

MidAtlanticDad ·
Check the on-line rosters of the teams that you mentioned (Oxy, UCSD, CSM, etc). Height and weigh don’t tell the whole story, but it should give you an idea of what’s typical. Of course, focus on the LHPs. You might also find profiles for some of those kids on the Perfect Game site, and that will list their pitching velocity. Also, use the Perfect Game site to see the recent classes who committed to schools that he is interested in. The “College Commitments” list will link you to player...
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J H ·
Not to sound blunt or rude, but I'd suggest taking a step back and waiting until he plays varsity baseball before looking at college baseball. Lots can happen in that timeframe.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks guys...as always, great advice. Speaking to a local ex scout who runs a Connie Mack and scout team here in Socal, said that there is college baseball out there for everyone if they are realistic, so I've always tried to keep things in perspective. JH...you're not gonna hurt my feelings. Like I've said, I've never told my son or thought he would ever make $ playing baseball. He's always fought through not passing the eye test, but he's still growing and has gotten where be has cause he...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

J H ·
AcademicsFirst- Good thought process. I apologize if I came off as blunt, I've just seen a lot of people in your position going way overboard in relation to the process. I've seen 96 mph fastballs in D3 baseball and 75 mph fastballs in D1 baseball. The only thing you can do as a player is work as hard as you can to be the best you can possibly be, both in the classroom and on the field. Once the time comes, getting a gauge of where you stand is easier than some think. If you get yourself...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

cabbagedad ·
Participation in the SoCal Scout league along with acceptance and attendance at the better Stanford camp (and/or a PG event) will give you both a real good idea where he stacks up. I've heard that statement about "there's a college for every player" before and I don't really agree. Realistically, the average player will finds it very surprising how competitive even most D3's and NAIA's are. Many decent/average HS players (not saying your son is), have to be willing to travel to the far...
 
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