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2020 RHP/ Is it too late for P5
To start off, I am a 6’3” and around 200 lbs RHP/Corners. So far in the beginning of the year I’ve been throwing around 87-90 with a plus slider and an above average change (although it’s pretty inconsistent at the moment). I think I’ll be throwing around 89- 92 when summer rolls around. I think I can play two way at the next level but I don’t think my bat alone will get me where I want to go. Also, This summer I’m going to play for one of the top travel teams in the state, which will...
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D1 Walk On Process/Procedure?
Allow me to preface this with the "not a snowball's chance in hell" caveat. Now that we have that out of the way... My 2020 RHP (PO) has decided to put his college preference over baseball, and will be attending a D1 P5 school. He's happy to play club baseball but wants to take a chance and try to walk on to the baseball team, and is looking to improve his chances. I'm not really sure how they do things these days. I know generally about "invited walk ons" (he isn't) and the (maybe) NCAA...
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Re: 2020 RHP/ Is it too late for P5
While the typical cycle for a P5 is a bit earlier, they will definitely find room for a kid that touches 90's and is an effective P with decent secondary offerings. If you have success with your top travel summer team, I'm pretty sure you will have P5 opportunities. Make sure grades and attitude are in check as well.
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It's not too late for P5. Keep working at it, and of course take good care of your arm! The summer before Senior year is huge for colleges of all sizes getting a good look at prospects.
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I think there are still opportunities to be had for pitchers! Could you give us some info on your academics?
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My RHP 2018 committed to a P5 in September of his senior year. I think you definitely can do it, but others are right — academics, attitude are key.
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It's late, but it is never too late for a guy throwing 90 with height. You're in the right direction with the travel team. If they're not hitting the WWBA and the other major tournaments this summer, find a team to guest play with - one that is even better. What you should be doing now is reaching out to schools with the subject line - Joe Smith 6'2 91 mph RHP - and telling them you're interested in their program with some video of you throwing a bullpen with a radar in the frame. Make sure...
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The truth is at this stage grades don't matter much. He either has the talent for P5 schools or he doesn't. They don't care about grades until they identify you as a prospect and are on the cusp of making an offer. P5 schools are probably the most lenient on admissions when it comes to athletics. If he can't get into a P5 school with baseball on his side, odds are he won't be getting into many mid majors with baseball on his side either. He is also a second semester junior, grades aren't...
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Re: 2020 RHP/ Is it too late for P5
No, its not too late for P5 or other schools but you need to be getting exposure and creating a buzz in the marketplace if P5 school is the goal . Not sure how many D1 schollies are still out there, but there may be opps w/o schollies so that needs to be considered. I see your metrics as a tweener in a lot of different ways because of your velocity, frame and recruitability. You're not small but not overly tall either for a D1 pitcher. You've got good D1 velocity but not great velocity which...
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P5 isn’t always the be all, end all some people view it to be. I doubt any player on Coastal Carolina or Cal Stare Fullerton wishes they were in a P5 program if it’s not as competitive as their program. The chances or playing both ways in college are slim and none. A lot of very good hitters have only pitched in college. If you get one P5 offer and it’s a solid program you have to ask yourself some very honest questions. Why is this one P5 offering and not others? Are they seeing something...
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One more thing, I did not throw very hard during my freshman and shophomore years, well above average but not enough to get D1s attention. All off the D1 attention I have now has came from scout ball in the fall.
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Just know these are all opinions based on each parents own personal experience, as is my response. My son did not have interest from any schools at the D1 level until he attended a P5 camp and had a great performance while also living 90+ with every fastball, during fall of his senior year. But as Fenway pointed out, athletic scholarship money is going fast. Both P5 schools that my son was talking to either had or were not willing to provide athletic money. Those that met him late early in...
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If you are 89-92 when summer rolls around and have plus offspeed you will receive interest/offers from a variety of P5 programs.....what's critical for you is to be with the right organization at the right events......WWBA, music city, midwesprospect league, etc. are important places to be......if you have verifiable stats (pg,pbr) email your target schools pitching coach/recruiting coordinator a link to your profile along with information as to why you are interested in there school and...
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I would echo that P5 is not all that. You can go there and find you aren't getting playing time, while at a "lesser" school you might get more work. Some "stud' players that my 2018 played with are just sitting at their top ranked schools. Hard to improve that way.
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i think you are in good shape, play in big events this summer on a good travel program and I think you are going to get a lot more interest. sounds like you are somewhat of a late bloomer but with your size and velocity i think you will see good interest this summer. My son had 2 2019 pitchers at his school pick up Big 12 offers last summer.
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At 6'3 and throwing 90 you're going to get looked at as a pitcher. The odds of being a two-way, especially in a P5 are very, very slim. Keep working the velo and you're likely to have plenty of offers over the summer....especially if you can push it up to 92-93
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My 2018 verbally committed to a Big West school in July before his senior year. He was throwing 88-90. He had a decent number of offers. He signed the NLI that November. His senior year was off-the-charts successful. Pro scouts coming out, gave up only 6 hits in 52.2 innings the entire year. Sitting 91-93/T94. We fielded SEVERAL calls that spring (usually backdoor requests through scouts) from P5's wanting to know if he had actually signed his NLI. It was quite clear that this improvement...
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Re: D1 Walk On Process/Procedure?
The general tryouts are usually nothing but a formality where the coaches say no. If he wants to walk on at most P5's, he needs to be recruited as a walk on. I would send them video and let them know that you want to walk on. If you have a Summer coach, have him reach out for you. If the school is having a camp before the start of next season, attend it and let them know you want to walk on. A lot of schools bring in 45-50 for the Fall, so there will be more players than spots.
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There is only one way that I know of to even get a legitimate look based on the scenario you described. You need to find someone with baseball cred that the HC at this D1 P5 school will listen to. Your son will have to workout for this “someone” and impress him enough to where he will call the HC and lobby for your son. Short of that you are wasting your time IMO.
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Tough pull here. However, if the school cancels its season because of the virus, perhaps you'll have a little more time to convince the coach to see your son. As noted above, you really need someone that has the coach's ear and has the reputation to recommend your son as a walk on player. Otherwise, have him attend the general tryout so he has no regrets. JMO.
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Mail the HC the Ace of diamonds playing card by itself in an envelope (no return address-no nothing else). Following week: mail him the Ace of clubs. Following week: mail him the Ace of hearts. Following week: visit his office (in person) and tell his secretary (when she asks who you are) the the Ace of Spades is here to see him. Guarantee it will get you a workout (assuming you aren't 5'6" 150lb RH puss thrower )!
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I have no idea if this will work but it sure as hell made me smile😁 OP, what are your son's measurables? That will have a big impact on the advice you get here. Height Weight FB Velo Lefty or righty You said he is putting college choice first over baseball, did he get offers to play somewhere? D1 offers?
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Tryouts are usually announced, go for it. Who knows you may make the D squad or the team at some point. I think the odds are typically slim but what does he have to lose?
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Your son might also look at related opportunities to be involved in baseball. Son's P5 program has 22 student managers who do a variety of jobs throughout the program, from data analysis to field set up to catching for pitchers during bullpens (I wouldn't want that job). Some of those kids are going on to get jobs at various levels of baseball, but at the very least they're getting to be part of a team, and they're learning some marketable skills. Might be something to explore if playing the...
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In light of what has happened in the days since your original post I hope your son is reconsidering his options.
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Given how eligibility has unfolded in the last weeks walking on has gone from next to impossible to even less likely. I would think the only way to walk on next year would be to look like an undetected MLB prospect in tryouts.