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Re: 2024s
Truthfully I think it's a little silly to try to figure out the impact year by year. My college sophomore (third year of college, slated to graduate this year, three years of eligibility left) will have to battle hot new recruits for the next couple of years, along with likely a shorter draft. Hot new recruits will have to face off with veterans with a year or two of experience. It's going to stink from top to bottom. I can't predict what the various entities involved in the decision will...
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I suppose that is possible in some scenarios but keep in mind, most colleges that use JC kids are the same schools that do so year after year. Many schools do not. So, if you are a 2024 looking to be recruited by a 4-yr where you have a shot to contribute sooner than later, I don't think it is that much of a factor. If I'm a '24, I am thanking God that I'm not graduating sooner and that this whole thing is likely to at least take significant steps by then back toward the old normal. Just...
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2024s
Thoughts on 24s? I don't think it will be cleared up for them. The 2022's are going to face a talent glut and many will go JUCO as a result. They come out just in time to obstruct the 24's. Same goes for this year's unlimited roster kids resulting in bigger cuts next year; a lot of 2020 and 2021 drop downs could clog up JUCO for 2 years and come out in time to block the 24's. The ripple effect.
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@bandera Close yes, not exact, depends on the situation. Hard to go by anything this year due to COVID and going forward. JUCO isn't exclusive to mid, lower D1, elite programs recruit 2 year guys when they have a lot of players drafted (in a normal year). Elite programs don't necessarily, "weed" out. But you will see transfers from elite programs that may have been walk ones, go down to JUCO to transfer back to D1. That's a lot of transferring and not careful could be a loss in credits. I...
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@TPM can you explain more what you mean? If I read it correctly, fewer draft rounds will continue to up the level of competition for college spots. So while we won't see the extreme crunch we are seeing now for 2021s, the new normal is going to be increased talent at every level of college baseball... If that is what you are saying, I agree and think it is the elephant in the room. COVID may have been the catalyst but the change is more profound and will continue to make each level of...
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2024’s are just becoming freshmen. If your kid is a jaw dropping, pro prospect stud you already know how recruiting will go. If he’s not it’s too early to even think about it. If he’s a genuine D1 prospect (outside major pro prospect) the summer after freshman year sets up getting on the right travel team to be seen by the right college programs. If he’s not a D1 prospect he has until after his soph year to set himself up for the right travel team. You can’t control the COVID ripple. It will...
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I wanted to correct something. As far as grad students, some get from the 11.7, some get academic, some may get money from other sources, and others get nothing.
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Agree to an extent but on the other hand, "proven performer at this level" is highly valued. Totally agree with Iowamom that it makes no sense to worry about or try to figure out all the details that far out. Work hard. Play hard. Enjoy the game. Keep an eye on goals and see where things go.
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Some programs rely heavily on JUCO players because the best freshman usually get scooped up by the top programs. Years ago Robbie Wine became the head coach at Penn State. He’s been gone a while now. He came from being an assistant at Oklahoma State. He went for the quick rebuild at PSU. It worked. All of a sudden half the roster TX/OK/KS JuCo transfers. PSU hasn’t been decent since.
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Remember Chefmike? His son was a grad student at Alabama and got drafted by the Cardinals.
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I remember him. Was the kid a pitcher? My guess is a late blooming pitcher is more likely to get away with a late pro start (23yo) than a position player.
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The graduate transfers who are a notch below signing but can help put a team over the top to a conference title won’t have trouble finding places to play. These players have to have immediate impact.
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@TPM I can also see it smoothing out in a couple years for mainly 2 reasons. College ain't cheap, and being old/wise isn't usually viewed as a good quality in a baseball player.
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new to current college baseball, so please correct me if my grasp of how it works is incorrect, but I'm seeing: the elite programs are going to get the top kids out of HS and weed them out and keep the very best. generally speaking their guys are going to be run off to make room for freshmen or drafted by their Jr year and not be around for their Sr year. there aren't going to be many elite guys coming out of JUCO and going to 4-year schools because they are drafted out of JUCO instead.
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PT, So when son was drafted it was 50 rounds. Some teams dropped out at the end. The later rounds usually were seniors, Juniors, maybe some JUCO, HS. I don't know what it was prior to this year, 40? So that's like 600 that would have been drafted. It will be interesting to see if HS players will go to college, or sign out of HS, as it seems there will be less chances for the draft. I also think JUCO players might go as well. Let's address this scenes in is a few years.
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Good post. Way too early to discuss 2024. Too early to committ as well. I don't think that it's going to be as bad as some may think it will be. Not every coach in the country is going to give a player a fifth year. It's unaffordable. Also, IMO, if I am a coach, I would take a hot new freshman over a 5th year senior any day. I don't even understand why the NCAA felt the need to give EVERYONE in all sports that option.
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A top program that gives their top recruits nice $$ to come to the program isn't going to just have them sit. They are the future of the program, not 5th year seniors. They need to get in the game. Older team members are always needed for majority in the locker room. But not more than a few. If this not true why would top programs have their juniors take minimum money to go play professional bb? Because they had to make room for their new recruits! I hate to fallback on "when my son was in...
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I don't have anything helpful to offer on 2024s other than - nobody really does. To touch on the juco thing - juco baseball will be better, but where it's already good. Programs like Chipola, San Jacinto, and throughout FL, TX, OK will have more P5 talent coming in because of oversized rosters, but let's not pretend like PA, MD, and NY are suddenly going to become juco hotspots. To add on, programs who were already pulling from jucos are still going to do so. And programs who rarely went...
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Quick scan of the transfer tracker on D1B shows about 175 graduate transfers have successfully found a new home. There must be some value in old/wise, which for some may be better defined as players that have proven they can handle the rigors of D1 athletics and academic progress. I would think a coach would also have a good idea of what level of performance to expect from a guy with four years of resume at the college level. Not to mention maturity in the locker room. The hot new freshman...
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PG Class of 2024 All-American Games
Wanted to know if anyone had any feedback or experience last year as a 2023 on this event or insight into this years event for the 2024s. My son is a 2024 based on the west coast who is very interested in potentially going to college back East. Wasn’t originally planning to come out to Georgia for this but we are now having second thoughts after playing in the 15u WWBA in Georgia last week. Anyone have an insight into how heavily attended this event is by college coaches? Wanted to make sure...
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Re: PG Class of 2024 All-American Games
No one's sons have played at this event or the underclass? Wasn't last year the first year that PG offered it? We have decided that my 2024 will not attend. While this event is labeled differently, I'm not clear on what the difference is between it and the typical PG showcases? We have tried to limit showcases to one per year and he already participated in the PG Jr. National (which was well attended by colleges).
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My son attended the 2023 All American Games. It was a very well run event with some of the best players in the class (including west coast) attending. The event was held when many other areas of the country were still dealing with Covid restrictions so there weren't any college coaches at the event. However the event was a needle mover due to the level of competition for a player on our team who is currently speaking to several MLB scouts already as a result of his initial performance in...
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PBR NC/SC Border Battle
Wondering if anyone has any opinions about some of the PBR invite only events? Son got invited to NC/SC Border Battle based on (at least that is what they say) how he did in the first PBR event we went to earlier this year prior to his Sophomore HS season. He did do well at that showcase as had top catcher throwing velo in the event and was also named one of the event's top pitchers but not sure if this is just a money grab or will actually help him with the recruiting process. He is a 2024.
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The PBR invite only events are the ones that are really worth going to - provided that they really are invite only & that it’s a limited list of invitees.
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@gch4 Our son did the South Atlantic Border Battles at the end of Sept of 2019 (he was a 2021). It was a good experience for him.
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Agree. PBR true invite only events are best deal. But know that all invite only are not really invite only or the reality is they invite about 1,000 kids. I would think this one is pretty good.
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2024 High School Baseball Season
Well it is that time of year again (at least down south). First day of practice is next Friday. Son's (2025) team is "expected" to have another good season. All starters except for one from the 2023 Area Champion team are returning. Only lost 3 seniors total. Returners: 1 So. 4 Jr. 7 Sr. Hope everyone is looking forward to the new season as I am. When does everyone else start? What do you think the seasons will look like.
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We had our first official umpire training last night (FL) ;-) Oh wait - you meant the kids!! We'll be on the field in late Jan / early Feb with season around 12-Feb. For those that care - a couple of rule changes / adjustments... One allowing electronic communication from dugout to catcher, minor adjustment to game mgmt (unruly spectators cannot be reason for forfeit), the cheat sheet wristbands have to be single, solid color and worn on forearm, but not pitching arm (and not white, gray, or...
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Without umpires there would be no games. You are just as important to the season. IMO Love the new comm rule. Should make things move faster. No longer have to get the number from the coach, look at the wristband, give sign to the pitcher. Now it's hear it, give sign and go. This should make pitchers that like to work fast (like mine when he pitches) a little happier.
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Still early conditioning/lifting/open gym phase here with tryouts in late February. Son, a 2026, played JV last year and has a very decent shot at Varsity. Still, he'll have two large grades of players ahead of him, with a large returning class of seniors. Large public high school, so you are considered lucky to just make a team at his school. He is just working hard so he earns the chance to play as much as possible.
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Tryouts are in the beginning of March here. Winter workouts going well. Tuesday, coach will list who the starters are going to be as of that day and will update it every two weeks. First scrimmage is March 11th. Son has been hitting really well and doing well defensively too. He is only a 2027 so most likely will be a crossover (jv and varsity) although the coach did tell him he will be giving a couple of the seniors a run for their money. I’m excited to say the least.
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Can I ask about this? I've never heard of anything like that. Is the point to motivate everyone to work harder?
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I guess a number of colleges do this. Yes, I think it is a way to motivate kids. Also, it will eliminate any surprises I’m thinking.
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So, just to clarify: this is, "if the season started tomorrow, here's who the starters would be." Not, "here's who is starting in the scrimmages this week."
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That is, first scrimmage not until March 15th or thereabouts. Tryouts March 4th or around there.
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Not a fan of this approach. Playing little mind games for no discernible reason in a sport that doesn't work that way. Plus, I feel like it's hard enough to make decisions after a whole preseason of trying out and working out. Why do that to yourself every week?
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Maybe to motivate kids to try and work harder to earn the spot? I guess some colleges take this approach?
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Also, not a fan of this, specifically posting a roster. And 100% agree, baseball is not like other sports and motivation in this manner is not conducive to development. I've seen coaches use this little mind game to give the kids he already knows are making the team a "kick in the pants" at what ends up being at the expense of the players he "acknowledges" (gaslighting). I think if you are going to have winter practices you should also be having conversations with those participating in...
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It's funny how when your son graduates you pretty much lose all insight or knowledge of what is going on in the high school baseball world. LOL. I have talked to a few people about the season here and there, but really haven't followed much. I guess when the season starts, I will go watch a couple of Woodlands games when I am not coaching (got roped back into travel ball). But from what I am hearing on this side of town, Tomball looks to be loaded this year with Arrambide and the young...
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With the returning players son's team has, this may be the best team in a long time and the best team they will have for some time coming. There doesn't seem to be a lot of players in the pipeline coming in (could be wrong). The team made the top 30 in the state list for division. Don't think that has happened before. If the boys can stay heathy and focused, it could turn out to be a great year. They seem to have all the pieces this year.
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They are absolutely real tryouts. Firmly convinced that the coaches last year knew heading into official tryouts what they wanted to do, based on how it played out. The coaches had very much already sized up the boys based on the winter workouts.
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The boy's first 100% bullpen since shutdown was today. 15 pitches, FB only. 92-94, T95. Practice starts March 4th.
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Son's school tryouts were broken into 3 groups. First group was all new incoming Fr, players that didn't make the team last year that wanted to try again, and players that had not tried out before. Second group was returning JV. Third was returning Varsity (more of a practice). 4 returning JVs were asked to practice with Varsity to see if they were a fit. For the JV and Varsity groups, you could see the players that work hard in summer and fall to get better.
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Tryouts started at the end of last week but the weather hasn’t cooperated. It’s not clear yet whether it might need to extend into this weekend but I’m guessing they won’t have a choice but to hunt for sunny days asap. It is a completely different year as a sophomore. Last year, as an incoming Freshman, it was critical to make the team as validation of the youth rings we’ve accumulated 🤣. After playing very lackluster sub-varsity competition in HS last spring and then top tier competitive...