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Re: Any 2022s out there reclassifying?
I've seen several 2022's, 2023's, and even seeing a couple 2024's now. I don't see the value in re-classing at this point. Is it to have a better chance at playing in college? Trying to make a P5 instead of D3? Better offer? The system is going to be so jammed up it is going to take a while for everyone to figure out how to navigate it.
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Reclassifying a 2022 to a 2023? For what purpose, exactly?
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Pretty much everyone should be more worried about school than baseball right now - and every new stupid ruling by the NCAA/NJCAA just reinforces that point.
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For what purpose? Recruiting dead period doesn't actually mean anything, coaches are still offering and players are still committing. I wouldn't hold back based on the idea that a college who may or may not be interested in me will have a larger roster. The best players will get their opportunities, the other guys should worry more about school than baseball at that point.
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Any 2022s out there reclassifying?
Given the recruiting dead period and the pileup of college players remaining on rosters for the next few years, are any parents thinking of reclassifying their 2022s or have any already done so? It seems like their opportunities are going to be limited.
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I feel you. So much craziness here. It’s a different world. 😂😂! Moving out makes you the lucky one!
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Yep. Academies are popping up everywhere. More than half my son’s fall team play for an academy. Only one of those kids is a re-class though. The parents I’ve talked to said their kids will just play at an academy their senior year. Pretty crazy to think HS parents are basically red-shirting their kids right now.
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I knew some that did 8th grade as well. Now I'm seeing HS kids doing it. My son's school lost the starting SS because they wouldn't let him. Worked out as a kid transferred in from a lockdown state and he is a stud.
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We can have all sorts of feelings around the concept of reclassifying, but what no one can ignore is the math. In many cases - if not most - we're talking about kids who have had college baseball dreams since they started forming memories. All the math right now says that the longer you can string the journey along/ride out the storm, the better your chances of continuing to play. Don't get me wrong, I can fully appreciate the logic and reason around kids coming back down to earth and...
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It happens all the time in New England, maybe because we have so many prep/boarding schools here. Also, they don't lose any eligibility upon transferring and reclassing. The New England baseball recruiting scene also tends to focus on prospects coming from the prep leagues first and foremost, then regular high schoolers, so it does create a little bit of (self-inflicted) pressure to consider reclassing and going to prep by junior year. My '22 has been contacted by multiple schools with...
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If you’re a legitimate pro prospect coming out of high school you don’t need to reclassify. If you’re not a legitimate pro prospect education should take more priority than reclassifying. If a kid is a late bloomer and his metrics finally say “pro prospect” at nineteen or twenty his D2 or D3 coach will get him in the right summer league to be scouted.
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There are players reclassifying in Florida but headed to baseball academies.
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I think you will see more taking a gap year rather than reclassing at this point.
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Hardly anything is normal in Houston. At least that’s my opinion. We moved there in 1974 and I got out as fast as I could.
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FWIW I overheard three ACC/Big 10 coaches discussing reclassing at a PG tournament. Their opinion was that it might give a temporary recruiting leg up but that it should be balanced with the additional wear and tear on the player’s body, particularly if he plays baseball exclusively. They felt like it was often a short-sighted decision but they understood the pressure, particularly when a lot of people do it. It was an interesting conversation.
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Here in Houston parents start the kids at 6 years /or and redo 8th grade in a private school. So kids are 1 or 2 years older. My kid is in 8th grade 13 years. He’s the youngest. His peers are 14 and 15 in 8th grade. Going into high school 9th grade at 15 or 16 years. Crazy to me tho. My kiddo is going in at 14! So my kid will graduate at 17 turning 18 and his team mates will be 19 or 20 😐! It’s so normal her that is weird to be 14 in high school.
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There was a kid at a local USA Today top 25 private who was twenty when he graduated. The kid looked like a man senior year. He was. He still only went D3. He started kindergarten a year late. Then he repeated freshman year when he switched from public to private. As long as the private isn’t competing in the public school athletic association it’s ok.
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
I would guess the scholarships are reserved for the truly special players who will bring a ton of eyes to the program. There are plenty of parents willing to pay the full cost.
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No.. nor are any of us kidding ourselves that that’s likely. But, all I was asking was, do either of these things (PG/reclassifying) have any bearing on that. Totally realize it’s an ultra-longshot, but, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. In fact, his (blood) uncle, who was a starting tight end in the NFL with two rings, told us that he should be keeping that kind of thing in mind. That’s all, sorry if that was somehow offensive. And thank you for your reply!
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I am sorry about your sons injury. You actually had me until you got to the draft part. Really, are you kidding me? Have the surgery asap, make sure you have a legit guy do it and a legit place for rehab. Your son has all summer and next year to get into shape and explore options, that should be the priority. Don't take a PG year unless he is advised to by his academic counselors or someone who can guide you through the process because you are all over the place. Good luck.
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“the propensity to make a change is proportional to the number of paragraphs written about the current situation” Just a casual observation but it seems like you’ve already made up your mind to reclass to 2023. Maybe internalizing that will help reduce your uncertainty and anxiety some. Then, how about asking his travel ball coaches these questions? If they’re experienced I’m sure they’ve dealt with this before esp during these covid times.
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A buddy of mine’s youngest son did a post grad year after high school, and is now playing for one of the best JUCO teams in Texas. It certainly has worked well for him so far. Lots of MLB scouts at his games and plenty of D1 attention too.
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May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
Hi All, This is long, very sorry. But we SO much appreciate any help if you know about this subject. My son, a Junior/2022 was something of a late bloomer. Now, (May 2021) is 6'4", 225lbs, very athletic broad shouldered build, though not “full grown man” ultra muscular yet. (Don’t get me wrong - he’s jacked - just not full grown strong yet) Pre-Covid had not gotten much recruiting action, but has grown a lot, and with 106EV & 86AV - and just recently started all of a sudden to get...
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Indeed you’re correct - given the very limited information I’ve found regarding somehow getting an extra year of high school - yes, I’m currently inclined to think PG to be the most likely course.. This was really more of a “how does all this work“ & “has anyone done it“ & “what was your experience“ kind of question. But I do appreciate the psychoanalysis - I need it! And I do intend to ask his travel ball coaches about this, though don’t think this is a situation they’ve been in all...
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
You are feeling like these answers are unsatisfactory because people on here are telling you to focus on taking care of your son and his here-and-now injury, while you are asking about the downstream effects of his injury and rehabilitation on recruiting, eligibility, position on the field, redshirting, scholarships, test scores, and the MLB draft. ....... Take care of your son. He is so much more than a baseball player. He needs your support during surgery and rehab. And if an extra year of...
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
A top SEC coach told a friend of mine, if the kid isn’t a stud player right now he should just move on to college. Stud players should consider a PG year.
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A player doesn’t get drafted on performance. He gets drafted on metrics. Check out Heath Hembree on Baseball Cube. His college stats are brutal. But he threw 95. He’s in his 9th MLB season. Draft year is when you’re 21. A junior in high school has four years to get his arm in shape and get his velocity back. Make it the priority. Getting back to 90 will get him recruited by a mid major. Note: Freshman and JV count as a year of high school baseball. He could transfer to the Inter-Ac. But I...
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Definitely not looking to get into it like this with you. I was just looking for some information. The question was whether reclassifying technically somehow affects ones ability to be drafted in any way.. that’s it. it wasn’t asking if people who get TJS can continue to play at a higher level, or whatever your inference was. My brother was only trying to help me ask the right questions.. just trying not to make any mistakes. seems like a question I should’ve asked elsewhere.
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
Your son is 16, needs TJS and you are wondering how surgery will affect a draft outcome because his uncle played football? Of course players with TJS get college scholarships and get drafted. It's about having the talent needed for that level. So take care of the injury first, after his recovery and you see how he is, you can worry about that stuff.
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Yes, reclassifying *could* negatively affect the draft. There was a player at my son's college that did a post grad year at Phillips Exeter. He was drafted out of college as a senior. After playing the first summer in milb, with a bunch of recent junior draftees that were 2 year younger PLUS all the foreign guys that were much much younger, he saw the writing on the wall and "voluntarily retired" after his one summer. But he got drafted and gets to say he played pro ball successfully. (I...
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The answer is no, getting reclassified has nothing to do with getting drafted. Talent has everything to do with getting drafted. I am just suggesting that you get his arm taken care of first.
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Yes, we are doing that - He's had MRI & MRArthogram & we have a MLB team's medical director that we are consulting with directly who is a family friend, as well as a second surgeon looking at him as well.. We are in very good shape there. But, and this might seem crazy, somehow I'm actually able to do more than one thing at a time. 😐 I was simply trying to think ahead & get some freaking answers about the possibilities of, & how to handle potentially planning, a post grad...
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
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Try to keep first things first. Get your son patched up. Get the best doc and rehab you can.
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Thank you! we have done that & have 2 more consults this week including one today. Need to move quickly as ligament can start to re-absorb making "repair" less likely if too much time passes (which then definitely means reconstruction/TJS) which won't be known until surgeon is in there - but nonetheless time is important. Given MRI/Arthrogram results, there's definitely a tear of anterior bundle of UCL.. Have even had multiple radiologists looking at it as well as the surgeons.
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Re: May of Junior year + sudden injury = Post Grad year / re-class & many questions (pls help! 😳)
this is HS baseball, you think how you are told to think!! and to quote the American legend Ric Flair "and thats the bottom line - whoooo" Absorb the advise some of it is very good , filter those who obviously didn't read your questions clearly, take want you want and ignore what you don't like...simple game.
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If the answer was YES, it would ruin his draftability, you would still get it done. So there is no point asking. t he reality is his ability will decide if he is drafted. Zero chance without the surgery. Get him repaired and then evaluate your next move. One year PG would be more affordable than two years reclassified at a private. Also a year at a JUCO might be the best option to demonstrate recovery and ability post surgery. Google Rick at Informed Athlete and schedule a consultation.
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Unfortunately they barely sign all SEC hitters.
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Post Grad won’t really effect anyone’s draft stock. MLB would draft a kid from the outback of Australia if he could throw 98+ heck, they’d draft a 38 year old used car salesman from Abilene if he suddenly threw 102 mph the Baseball industry has a way of blowing smoke up the you know where of parents of talented kids.
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Sorry to hear about your kid. It seems you have the surgeon and post therapy worked out which is good. All I would suggest is to get a second opinion and other week will not change things. I see more and more travel baseball orgs are now in the "PG academy" business. It is tens of thousands of dollars and can provide the exposure. Good luck
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I don't think anyone thought that your son wasn't having surgery. The opinion seemed to me was that, get your sons issue taken care of, depending on the outcome you can pursue options and ask questions after that.
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Here is a link I found (you probably did too). You would have to go through all 138 to find out if they have baseball: https://www.boardingschoolrevi...ate-boarding-schools I know someone who was accepted by one of the Academies but was advised to take a PG year first. Also, some Ivy's will do the same, with and without a guarantee for a spot the following year. I know of an ACC coach that recruited a player (listed on the players Perfect Game page) but all of a sudden he is at a Juco. THEN...
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Heck, it sounds good to me. My son said "nice".. My wife might miss us, might not, could go either way. Que Bueño!
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GRADES. There are a lot of P5 schools that have guys who don't make qualifications either by grades, test scores or behavior that are sent to a certain JUCO, each P5 has their own per sport, and then is a guarantee transfer when they get grades up or tests up or fix behavior.
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@YachtRocker my son is at a school that has a post grad program. They are placing some players but no matter how you cut it, it's an expensive way to buy time and doesn't always translate into better outcomes (some still didn't get offers, some are going to JUCO or CCs and I don't know what kind of money they are getting when they go D3-D1). It also really seems like a shame to do a PG year given your son's academic profile. With his grades and scores, it seems like you can target HA schools...
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That's great to read. My kid also a young 16 yo 2022 has an elbow injury (stress fracture), he was literally days from getting a couple of screws put in until a pre surg CT showed improvement (closure), so now he is on a bone stimulator and a DH checking with this ortho every month. As an over-thinker, we discussed the options in the event his recruitment summer was lost: 1. Reclass/gap at a local baseball org that is now has become a "post grad academy" + JUCO part time classes....$$$ and...
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I would advise to take it as it comes. Get the surgery. See how he does next summer. Is there a lot of interest? Can you tell he is still finding his way back? I think it is good to explore his options, but having a plan set in stone before you know how well he recovers could put a lot of pressure on him. There is really no rush to decide. I think as parents, if we act like the sky is falling, they feel that. I think it will all become a lot more clear as he finishes rehab and starts back...
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First, if you haven’t already, please read @PTWood reply several times. Great information in there. Second, your son’s SAT score is a huge bonus. Did he have any contact with Ivy or Patriot League schools before the injury? I think those schools would be more likely to keep in touch during the recovery process than most. Third, it sounds like baseball is definitely a priority for your son. I could imagine him getting back to hitting form around this time next year. He could visit jucos and...