Tagged With "IVB"

While I like seeing all this data (Really liked that it was on the board for the World Series), I think unless you have a pitching coach that really understands it, it can be a negative to coach to the stats. When our hs got Rapsodo last year, my son's pitching coach (not at the school) told him not to change anything due to the metrics. I think it is good for evaluating, but not necessarily coaching. IVB and IHB tell you why some guys throwing 92-93 get swing and misses and others get...

Yes that's exactly right. Thanks for the reply.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about 4 seam vs 2 seam vs spin rates vs etc... at least until his 77 max velo ticks up. If he starts to increase velo then usually "over the top" guys have success with 4 seam FB and 12/6 curveballs. (please take this with a grain of salt as I do not know your son, just trying to give you some honest feedback) My recommendation is to find a quality pitching coach along with a proven program that can help with the increase in velo. Movement, spin, vertical break,...

Knowing a pitchers Bauer Units can be really useful for comparing across different velocities. But I think one thing many people get wrong is only focusing on high spin rate. A Bauer Unit that is 22 (low spin rate relative to velocity) is equally as effective. It plays out as a sinking fastball and 2 seams are even more effective. Essentially what is not good is to have an average Bauer Unit (24) since whatever the velocity is, it's much easier to time up and locate since batters get used to...

I have the average rates and can post them too if that might help: Average spin rate: 1861; Average IVB: 19.2; Average HM: -5 Actually the great thing about the data and Bauer units specifically is that it is relevant not just for top-level MLB velo and spin rates. What the Bauer units can do is adjust the spin rate comparison for lower velos (like in hs ball). Here's a good explanation: https://www.drivelinebaseball....ts-pitch-comparison/ Here's from the conclusion to that article: "For...

From Trackman InducedVerticalBreak — Distance, measured in inches, between where the pitch actually crosses the front of home plate height-wise, and where it would have crossed home plate height-wise if had it traveled in a perfectly straight line from release, but affected by gravity. Note: If this number is positive, the ball broke “upwards”, or in reality dropped less than it would have due to gravity alone – it does not necessarily mean that the ball actually rose. HorzBreak — Distance,...

I am not sure how valuable are max metrics for assessing pitching. I think the average velo, spin, movement based on pitch type is a better indicator. I thought Bauer unit was a tweet metric, I kid, I kid. Not sure if it is as useful if you do not have top tier velo and spin

Also, this article (ignore the title) is a really good example of Trackman info (Including Bauer units) being used for hs pitchers and what they should work on: http://twinsdaily.com/articles...form-fastballs-r8204

Thanks for the reply! To be clear, me working on his data is kind of just for fun and mostly for my own interest. He's already committed to his D3 school and their coaches will have him this time next year and earlier. (My other son is a D3 sophomore RHP, so this isn't my first rodeo.) No worries here. Pretty cool that they have the same Bauer units. I'm assuming he has a high velo than mine? I thin I have a pretty solid grasp of how to use the Bauer units, but I do not quite know how to...

Thanks for the reply! Your son's numbers look awesome. Can I ask where your son committed? Both of my boys were/are pretty clearly at D3 level, but we're very happy with the schools, fit etc. (High academic small liberal arts colleges in MN.) Tons of luck and chance factors figure into who gets an offer and who doesn't. I'm just happy my boys can keep playing. I'm pretty sure his school has Rapsodo / Trackman, so next year at this time they will have the numbers on him and teach him. But I...

Thanks for the reply! To be clear, me working on his data is kind of just for fun and mostly for my own interest. He's already committed to his D3 school and their coaches will have him this time next year and earlier. (My other son is a D3 sophomore RHP, so this isn't my first rodeo.) No worries here. My son has had good pitching coaches, velo programs (and injuries !), and so I know his his velo is what it is: not huge, liable to tick up over the next few years, but huge jumps are pretty...

My 2021 LHP son is a recent D3 commit. 6' 195, very strong, over the top delivery. I was hoping to get some basic feedback on his Trackman data from an event last summer (the only one in which he got Trackman data.). I understand some stuff about the data, but not everything or how to apply it. Here are his basic numbers for his FB: Max velo: 77.15; Max spin rate: 1938; Max IVB: 22; Max HM: -11.5; Extension: 4.36; Release Height: 5.67; Bauer Units: 26 My understanding is that average Bauer...

Definitely not an expert on it, but like you, have read some things to try to get an understanding. Agree that it isn't necessarily high spin rate, it is a spin rate that is higher or lower than average. Basically making the ball move differently than anticipated due to the way an average fastball typically moves. I started looking at it before my son committed. We were at a Vanderbilt camp and my son and another kid had basically the same velo. Both boys were asked to stay after and tour...