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Visit
I am going on a visit to a school I have interest in. Have attended prospect camps in past where the coach has been there. Emailed the recruiting coordinator a week or two ago expressing interest in school but said nothing about the visit. Should I...
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Preparing for a camp
I have interest in a school and have attended camps in the past for the school. While the schools assistants have been pleased with me, They've never seemed to be blown away. I have a month until the camp, and have been preparing like crazy, lifting...
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Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest
I didn’t know whether to add this question to the “Define Recruited” thread or one of the many camp invite discussions. So, I started a new topic since many of the camp advice topics precede the recent rule change regarding contact before Sept. 1st of junior year. My son, a 2021, received a DM on Twitter from an assistant coach inviting him to an upcoming prospect camp. It was specifically a camp invite saying their staff would love for him to attend the camp and they were looking forward to...
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I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Hello all- 2021 RHP here. I have been trying very hard for the past two years to get noticed, get attention, and interest from college coaches. Email has been the means of communication, and I have pretty good skills in writing these sorts of letters. I spend an hour writing a letter to a coach, and get a two sentence response a while later usually, very generic typically and impersonnel. 99% of the time, I just get a prospect camp invite. I am not emailing schools like Florida or Vandy...
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Rock Solid 8u-14u Summer/Fall Travel Baseball Team Interest
Are you interested in developing your skills as a baseball player and playing travel baseball? Rock Solid Baseball provides a higher level of competition for talented and motivated South Eastern North Carolina baseball players who are willing to commit time to the improvement of their skills, sportsmanship, and competitiveness in a team-focused environment. The Rock Solid organization is dedicated to developing each player’s skill, knowledge, and love for the game through instruction at our...
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Coach hand wrote letter?
My son is a sophomore in high school. He has received a little bit of interest from D1 schools, and recently, a coach hand wrote a letter to him. Does this mean anything opposed to a computer typed letter?
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Probably a good indication.... unless it looks like girl's writing, gets his name wrong and asks him to come to camp for just $299 Usually, a personal hand written is a good sign but those sneaky marketing departments these days... depends what it says.
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I thought that a D-I College Coach could not contact a freshman or sophomore recruit either by phone or letter. Am I wrong on this?
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It is mailed to the school to the high school coach in regards to the player.
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DAG, as a former D1 compliance director, I'm curious to know (although I don't expect you to say publicly) whether the letter was written to the coach about your son (which I would view as borderline acceptable), or whether it was written as if being sent directly to your son (crossing the line in my opinion)? Congrats to your son on getting that level of interest as a sophomore! However, if a coach is playing loose with the rules while recruiting your son, will he be playing loose with...
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You lost me (and everyone else) at Red Socks. Good Gawd !!!!
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Hey Swagg, Most won't go back and read through the few lengthy threads you have initiated a year ago and prior. It will help if you give a summary of what things you have done to date... what showcases you have attended and how those went, any other things you have tried based on previous suggestions and also summarize other key factors such as the fact that you haven't participated in travel ball. I think this will get you more useful feedback. It sounds like your velo continues to climb,...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Swagg, You are definitely not like most kids. Most kids don't like to write emails to coaches, but you seem to thrive with it. Keep doing it with existing coaches and add more coaches (all levels of college baseball) to your list. Follow up with a phone call if you are extremely interested in a particular school. As Cabbagedad suggests include new milestones and achievements (baseball and academic)….coaches loves that stuff! Seek some adult help whether it is a former college athlete,...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Have you done any showcases to get documented stats? If you haven't or don't plan to, I would, as suggested, get video of a bullpen and post to flatground. When you say topping at 87, where are you sitting? I think some coaches read emails, but that isn't how any coaches actually communicated with my son. An email/video may peak their interest to see you, if you are at a tournament they are attending, and then they might reach out for a call.
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Agree with the above - good advice. The D1 dream is great but shouldn't be the only option you look at. North Carolina has some really good D2 programs as well as great programs in SC, GA, Florida etc. I would suggest really looking at the JUCO route as a viable option as based only on velo, some more development may make a huge difference in the future. As stated by Cabbage and Fenway, get an unbiased assessment of where you are as a player currently. It appears that you are willing to do...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Swag, in your last thread you asked how kids who don't play travel can get to play in college, particularly D1. I think that's a very important question, and it's often ignored that travel can be a huge drain on a family's resources and it's not feasible for many. Even if you don't do travel you can do carefully targeted showcases and college camps. You can also get a little exposure though legion, if you have a team in your area. But number one, in my opinion, if you are set on D1, is...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Can you post a video of you pitching? A bull pen video is fine. Need to be able to see your mechanics, a radar read, movement, and control. Provide several angles - behind the pitcher and behind the catcher. What are your grades and scores? By now, you've probably begun thinking about potential colleges - even absent baseball; which type of schools are you looking at (location, size, price, etc.)? The high costs of attendance of many schools comes into play. If you get an offer as a walk-on...
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A few things stand out to me. The first is that you seem to have unrealistic expectations of how this whole thing works. An email is a form of introduction, you are there to introduce yourself and let them know their program is of interest to you and here's why you might be interested in me. These emails shouldn't take an hour to come up with and you probably shouldn't be expecting a response more than a few sentences. D1 schools are not going to make an offer based on an email, even with...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
I will agree with PABASEBALL in a lot of his comments. topping 87 as a junior especially if it is not verified will not jump out at a D1 coach of any level. Throwing 87 with effectiveness against D1 recruits will get a little notice. Coaches will not read an email that takes you an hour to write. They are in season mode now. I assume you are in the same situation as last year and have not been to tournaments or showcases. If so, then you are in trouble until this summer. I offered to get you...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
As many have mentioned what are the results you are getting from pitching? Are you generally dominating your peers or just another quality pitcher? What is your general K/BB rates? If you top out at 87 and have little command then most DI coaches are not going to be overly interested. Sitting 85 with command and a moving fastball is generally something a mid major will be interested in. The one good thing about being seen as a pitcher is you have some control of the environment. Coaches can...
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You have to get in front of the coaches and perform well. Period, end of story. Sucks to say this, but if you aren't able to do that through summer ball, then your chances of getting to ANY college program beyond JUCO goes down exponentially. JUCOs are filled to the brim with guys who are sitting at your numbers. Most JUCOs are not feeder programs to D1 programs, there are a few top JUCOs that get studs who just needed more time to figure things out academically or who blossomed late and...
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
If you haven't already, post your video, velo and what you're looking for to @flatgroundapp on Twitter. I got ya--and it's 100% free.
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
2 words...TWITTER & FLATGROUND. Post and tag.
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Make sure you read what to include in your flatgroundapp tweet to be most effective. Height, weight, GPA, year scores, velo etc. it is pinned in their twitter page. There is a system and it works!
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Yes, if you are interested in learning more about the program. Give them your tour schedule and request available time. If they aren't available you may want to stick around and watch a practice. It never hurts to get as much information as possible.
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest
If it is from an assistant I would say legit, if it is from the Director of Baseball Operations, probably not worth it.
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Thanks. He’s a volunteer assistant that was recently hired on. I know volunteer assistants depend on camp money for income but I thought it was interesting that he had been a recruiting coordinator at his last school. I guess this new opportunity was good enough to make the move. That would also put pressure to get more camp revenue, I guess. Anyway, I’m getting off topic. So, I know my son can ask questions about the camp but I’m trying to determine if we glean more information about any...
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Even with the new rules some of the same questions are still valid: Is it a school I am interested in? (size, location, has my major, Etc...) Do I have a realistic chance at succeeding academically at that school? Do I have the academic background and grades to be successful. Is it a school I would be interested in if it were not for baseball? How high is the school on my list? What is the cost, and can I afford the total cost of traveling to the camp. (Bang for your buck) Athletically how...
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I would ask questions. I’m probably cynical due to our experience which may not be everyone’s. Last summer my son got a DM from a school (director of baseball operations) about a camp and it was a school he could have attended I think and it was logistically a good fit. We rearranged things to make it work and when we got there, they had no idea he was there and didn’t talk to him at all. Son had sent aDM back that he would attend. The camp ended, we came home and sent an email with stats...
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Does your son know the coach? Have they spoken before prior to this invite or did the DM arrive out of the blue? If so I would say it's a generic invitation. My son dealt with many of these with polite responses stating he is interested would like to attend but travel may be a problem and see what kid of response he got. Sometimes they disappeared, sometimes it initiates a legitimate dialog with a coach. Best case it would get the coaches attention prior to the camp so they know to look for...
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I think this is a good list to vet camp invites. One point I would add is this - has the coach seen your son play and has there been some interest expressed? I'd guess the answer is no. I would not waste time on a school camp unless there is specific interest in your son, or it is the 11th hour (for a '21 it is not). Otherwise you are more than likely wasting time and money - JMO.
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I would say the one exception to this is if the camp hosts multiple schools/coaches, AND your player has communicated with coaches beforehand AND they are looking for him. For example BC and Northeastern each host annual winter camps and have multiple coaches from local schools in attendance. Cost was not too crazy, and my son was able to get good dialogs going with several coaches this way. Boston College Spring Training Prospect Clinic http://collegebaseballcamps.com/bceagles/
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I think there are a lot of exceptions to this, but I know most people here do not like camps. If you are not on a power team (and everyone will say it is a mistake not to be), then it is a good way to be seen by target schools. My son did not want to leave his friends. They don't go to his school and were his best friends who he had played with since 8 years old. Our route for recruiting included showcases and camps. My son went to two SEC camps with no prior dialogue and had weekly...
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I cant speak for everyone, but I don't think folks universally dismiss camps. They can be a useful tool. IMO most folks get that impression off this board, but the usual take on camps is they can be good, but don't "cold call" the camps and expect to have the phone ringing off the hook by the time you leave. Most camps are used to make money for the ACs. Secondarily they are used to vet players. If a player has had previous contact with the school, the school has interest in seeing the...
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I'm not sure abt this after having been through it. My son played for a power team his 16U summer as a rising Junior. Yes he attended lots of big events and got to play against some great competition, but he was a Pitcher-Only on a roster of abt 28 kids and he was buried in the bullpen. He saw few innings and the games he pitched did not get much visibility. Once we found him a pitching coach who he really connected with and he started seeing gains in his development, my son felt a loyalty...
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We did fine too and our 16U team may not have even won 50% of our games. If you make your recruiting plan around it, you can end up as good or better I think. I spoke to one dad last summer whose son (16U) didn't even play for a summer team. He worked out during the week and did invitational events and showcases and he had a lot of P5 offers. He committed last month to a strong program.
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Everyone's path is different! We see that repeated here over and over!
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My son only did camps, didn't go to any big showcase or play for a power team, yet he received multiple D1 offers. In hindsight, maybe he would have had even more offers if we did, but he was offered to his first choice and I don't think he would have chosen differently. I agree everyone's path is different, therefore, maybe do a mix of all. I also agree not to go to camps blind. Communicate beforehand so coaches know who you are and are watching you.
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Camps were useful for my 2017 position player. He did not end up at any of the schools where he attended, however. The 1st camp attended had 3 different levels of coaching present. He did contact the host school 1st, as he did with all others. He asked specific questions about the camp and gave specific information about himself. After each camp he attended, the schools did show various levels of interest. The most useful part of attending camps for him was that it helped him to determine...
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I could have written this exact same email. Wonder if it's the same "coach"? The one in my son's case has been with 4 different schools since and he emailed him from each one, despite ignoring him when he saw him in person!
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Utimately it was a camp that got my son his offer, but it was a very specific circumstance where the coach had seen him at the PBR Futures games the week before and called him on the way home saying "you're still coming to the camp, right?"
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What folks need to understand is that these camps/showcases etc are businesses first and foremost. They are there to generate revenue whether the money goes to a private enterprise (like PG), or a college baseball program. They want to fill the camp, period. They will do it any way they can. They do not care to what degree the player/family would have to go to get there. They will send emails like the one below my son got this week, he hasn't even played in a PG event this year, only been to...
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Let’s not hijack the thread and turn it into another beat up on PG/Jerry Ford thread, please.
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I'm not...the point is these camps and showcases need to be seen for what they are, a revenue stream. I also agreed with what bishopleftiesdad said earlier in the post...so apparently you only have a problem with me pointing out that PG is telling my son he's had a great year when in fact they haven't seen him. So being disingenuous and deceitful in their advertising is ok with you...that's fine.
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This has been hashed and rehashed. They didn’t work for you, they did work for us. Everyone’s experience is different.
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The point of the OP is legitimacy of the invitation. My point is buyer beware.
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If your son plays summer and fall travel ball (like my kid), then I assume that there are only a couple of open weekends. This fall was pretty typical: two weekends with no tournament scheduled in September and October (reduced to one weekend after a rainout and a make-up event). It turned out there were no camps of interest on that one weekend. I don't think son's coach would get bent out of shape if he skipped a typical weekend tournament to go to a camp at a school that was actively...
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Meant to add (before I posted what admittedly was off-topic from the OP): I think a Twitter DM indicates some level of interest greater than an email. Email addresses get bought and sold in bulk, and camp invites get blast mailed to those lists. I haven't heard of someone doing anything similar with lists of Twitter handles. So yes, I think a DM suggests someone is actually aware of your son. But IMO, it's not enough to go to a camp without some other indications of interest. I'd at least...
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Coaches recognize that players have pretty crowded schedules, which is one of the reasons that you see so many camps scheduled in the late fall and over the holidays. They also tend to value the attendance of a player who fits their program's profile when it's known that the player is missing one of his team's events in order to be there. Without getting into semantics over terms like "major," I think the coaches tend to view camps as an important piece of the recruiting equation because...