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keewart ·
East coast-er here. ( Kinda going against everything RJM said...) Times were a bit different for my 2014, but after watching several friends/teammates commit to ACC/P5 schools, son committed the summer before his junior year to his first (only) offer...a mid-major. Most of the athletic scholarships typically go to "up the middle" players. I would think 50% would be a great offer. Pitchers have an advantage to wait. My son was a mid-infielder. Knowing some of the other mid-infielders in the...
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SpeedDemon ·
Thanks. We’re based in Central California. He’s targeted colleges mostly on the West Coast.
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SpeedDemon ·
Thanks. Not STEM focused, but doesn't really know what he wants. Only criteria is a major where he doesn't have to write a lot of papers. We're thinking maybe something at the intersection of tech and business - ?
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RJM ·
If William and Mary was the only D1 offering I would take it. It’s one of the top academic schools in the country. There’s been speculation if W&M wasn’t in the south it would have been in the Ivy League.
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TerribleBPthrower ·
Any idea what your son would major in? Is he STEM focused?
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TPM ·
SpeedDemon you have a pm.
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TPM ·
Thanks. We need some west coast folks to weigh in. I am from Florida so can't offer advice. However many West Coast players do go out of state. So if he wished to stay in state, that may be a reasonable offer.
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TPM ·
Since recruiting players is often based regionally or geographically it's hard to tell what having only 1 D1 program interested means since your location is listed as USA. So I would not jump on any offer or hire anyone to market your 2024 son at this time. JMO
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SpeedDemon ·
Thanks. We haven't heard anything from his club coach. That, I think, is the missing link...not clear if coach hasn't had anyone contact him, or if he's chosen not to communicate with us. Other families and players are similarly scratching their heads. Son will follow up directly with coach after the two upcoming camps. The HC is the pitching coach for the school that's made the offer. He has a stellar reputation for developing talent but is old school. Asst coaches told my son HC can be...
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SpeedDemon ·
Feels like I've bragged enough, but since people have asked: he has a 4.8 GPA and a 1520 SAT. Ivies have expressed interest, but he is dead set on staying on the West Coast. Husband and I are very academic focused...we see our role as the realistic "Plan B" (go to a great college, play ball, get a great job after graduation) to his "Plan A" (MLB or bust).
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SpeedDemon ·
Hey this is great. Thanks so much. We used to think he was big league talent, until he started playing against future big league talent; we were all quickly humbled. Now we are grateful for any opportunity to play in college. Thanks again for the input.
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fenwaysouth ·
SpeedDemon Your son is a lot like my son was 10 years ago except for the projected 95+. He was cruising high-80s and touched low 90's. His first offer was from a mid-major D1 (his local childhood dream school) and then the flood gates opened for additional D1, D1 HA (Ivy & Patriot League), and D3 opportunities. If I’m reading the situation correctly, it sounds like this D1 mid-major wants to take your son “off the market” as soon as possible. Unless there are extenuating circumstances...
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RJM ·
Only one D1 offer means either one coach is ahead of the curve and everyone else has it wrong or he’s not really projected as D1 ready. Do you understand a certain academic level is required to get both athletic and a academic money? Is he at that level? Don’t worry about what percentage is athletic and academic. Consider the total package. My kids received 25% athletic and 50% academic. The more athletic money the coach has left over the happier he will be. He can pursues more talent. Just...
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SpeedDemon ·
It does make sense - thanks! You're asking the same question I am - should I bring in an advisor to hash through the existing offer, try to suss out other interested parties, and generally help with the process? Or should I go it on my own, in a weird situation where we're getting one very generous offer but nothing else and son is less than enthusiastic about the coach? I think what you're saying is that the advisor role can be played by his HS coach, or pitching coach or someone else who...
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SpeedDemon ·
No deadline, so far. But I'm expecting one. We have a follow-up call scheduled for next week.
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used2lurk ·
If the club coach does not want to be too involved it is possible to get another coach/advisor involved (at your request). When I say advisor I do not mean a college recruiting advisor like CAA or one of many others out there. If your kid is as elite schools will find you. It could be his HS coach or pitching lesson coach or a friend of the family (be careful with that one as you would want the coach to be able to ask the right questions and not be ignorant to things he should know). I say...
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LousyLefty ·
This. You live in CA where there are a million programs run by guys who have every west coach D-1 in their phone, your player is at the level where they CAN and SHOULD be willing to reach out. Additionally he should know which programs your son will gel with the coach or at least the pitching. If he can't, switch programs. I know it's a little more spread out in Central CA but you should have a half dozen local options. I think now is a good time for your son to pick 10 schools where he...
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SpeedDemon ·
Wow! Thanks.
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What's a good offer? Should we hire a consultant?

SpeedDemon ·
Son is a 2024 RHP. Had a summer good enough to gather some high level D1 follows and lots of camp invites. Sat 86-88mph in games but recently penned a 91(via Trackman) with 2500+ spin rate. Jumped 7mph in a year. His coaches generally agree he will throw 95+ just by growing and getting stronger. 6'1"/175lbs now. However, only one school, a mid-major, has reached out, via his HS coach. They've offered him 50%, with high likelihood of another 30-40% coming from academics (he's a great...
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SpeedDemon ·
Agreed re: club coach. I think that’s a big part of what’s missing. We will follow up with him. Thanks for the input.
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PABaseball ·
His travel coach/whoever runs the organization needs to start pulling their weight. Once you hit a certain level, the goal is not to just go event to event and rack up wins and reps, it's to play for somebody who is hooked up with colleges your kid is interested in attending. If your travel coach is not capable of doing that - you are not playing for the right program. You are no longer paying for the tournaments, you are now paying for the ability to make a phone call. Every organization...
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SpeedDemon ·
Thank you.
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Goosegg ·
If he wants to remain in the west, look into scout ball for the fall. Cheap, lots of exposure to coaches. (If you're not familiar with the term, do a search of threads for "Scout Ball.") I have other thoughts l"ll put into a PM for you shortly.
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CollegebaseballInsights ·
Nothing really to add to @LousyLefty comment In 2022, there were 99 RHP Freshman from California listed on NCAA-D1 rosters, here are the states they played. Here are the conferences 2021 Season 2020 Season Besides this community, www.Keepplayingbaseball.org is good for organizing one's thoughts. Not as detailed as this community, but you can use it as a supplemental.
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Ripken Fan ·
Kudos to your son's academic record. Don't sacrifice his academic aptitude in selecting a school. Wish he would reconsider Ivy League, but I get it. We live in New England and son had a limited Geographic area (probably no further West than Illinois and no further south than VA or Carolinas.) Son focused on HA D1's (primarily Ivy, Patriot). No need for a consultant as your son already has an offer. It's trite but true, best way to get offers is to have the first one. My son received an offer...
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SpeedDemon ·
Ha! Thanks so much. This is great advice. Our sons seem like they could be twins.
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SpeedDemon ·
"If he's really dead set on going to school on the west coast than he is certainly not prioritizing baseball" - I am going to text him that, word for word. Thank you very much. Hard to understand why there aren't more colleges out West. Seems like there's a small liberal arts college in every other town on the East Coast.
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Smitty28 ·
The West Coast is extremely tough for an aspiring college player. There are only 20 or so D1 programs west of the Rockies and California & Arizona are very dense with high-end baseball talent. And there aren't a lot of D2 or D3 programs either. He needs to have a plan to be seen. Many travel programs have relationships with college coaches and hold showcase tournaments on the college fields. Many also go to USA Baseball in AZ or PG tournaments in GA. If he's really dead set on going to...
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Smitty28 ·
I always wondered the same, but I think it has to do with where the population centers were 100 to 200 years ago when most private colleges formed.
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