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Re: PG Grade/Top Prospect List Chances?
My son went to his first PG event after Freshman year in high school. He did all of the tests and received an 8.0 grade based on his speed (7.2 at the time) and throwing velocity as a position player. He has been to two WWBA championships and other tourneys since then. He has been named to WWBA all tourney team twice as well as top prospect lists. PG made him an Hon Mention All American twice but never changed his grade in his profile, inspite of the fact he runs 6.5 and his velocity is up...
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Re: PG Grade/Top Prospect List Chances?
My impression is that the 1-10 grades only come as a result of PG Showcases and the Underclass All American Games. If he wants a regrade, he needs to do another PG showcase.
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I'm very late in saying this but since you all are interested, I got an 8 grade. Probably very close to an 8.5. I hear if you get 8s in each category (or X number in any category), they'll round you up to an X.5 or even X+1 overall. I got 8s in hitting, power, and pitching. I was surprised to see I got a 6.5 in fielding, and I'm sure that's what kept me from getting an 8.5 overall. Not sure though. Also surprised my hitting and power were the same as my pitching.
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Congrats on the 8! Maybe they are trying to tell you to focus on pitching?
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Don't let PG score or any other showcase result get you down. Take it for what it's worth, a set of numbers of how you compared with others or in the eyes of the staff. Ultimately every time you play in a showcase or tournament you are giving 100% in both play ability and how you conduct yourself. If anything use the scores and results as a way to monitor your advancement and improvement. If you can increase the numbers (relatively speaking) you are on the right track. The RC want you as a...
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Re: PG Grade/Top Prospect List Chances?
It's my understand that you only get a grade based on showcases....WWBA, etc, won't get you a grade. My son was honorable mention all american and also on 2 all tourney teams and never got a grade. He did end up in a great spot in their state rankings both overall and position, though obviously they don't see every kid from Ohio, so the rankings aren't necessarily perfect, though after 2 years of college, a lot of the guys he's ahead of that probably thought they should be ranked higher and...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
1. Find a travel organization that provides opportunities to develop, national exposure and ideally has a track record of moving players to the types of schools you are targeting. Dont just hop teams because they play at national events 2. Play for a team consisting of his grad year 3. Ideally his travel team will be connected to resources who can supplement what they provide in coaching/training. 4. Dont showcase until their is something to showcase....highly recommend PBR showcase...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
After reading many many posts, I would say that many of the "recruting" things don't matter until your son is in high school. The advice that comes up the most frequently and gets the most likes on the board seem to be (1) maintaining grades (2) taking a college admissions test as early as possible (9th grade? Early 10th grade?) so your child knows where he stands and can work to improve scores as needed (3) tracking key statistics at home so you know when to showcase (don't showcase unless...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Welcome to the site. Letsgo!! gives some great practical advice. It is certainly smart to be informed, have a plan and provide best resources for your son. This is a great place to find that information and know that you can also search by specific topic and find a treasure trove. I will touch on the other side. No matter how good or how promising your son's baseball future may be, keep things in perspective. Baseball ends for so many during HS years, even for those who you would least...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Chuck all your questions and prove he can compete on the 60/90 field. Until he does this all your questions are irrelevant. He also needs to get himself playing grade appropriate in travel ball as soon as he proves he can handle the field size. Playing 12u as a 7th grader unless he’s a physical late bloomer he was a bigger boy among many little boys. At the least he was likely more emotionally mature. My son played 13u as a 12u eligible (May birthday) baseball player the summer after 7th...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
RJM, Do they still have 54' 80" for 13u?
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Your questions are a good starting point. My son is entering his last year of HS. He committed spring of his sophomore year. It's hard to be specific, we don't know you, your son. Even if we did, too exact of a roadmap could lead you astray. Here's my best summary advice. It may come across jumbled, but here you go. Listen to everyone but make your own decisions. Keep your relationship strong with your son. No path that strains your relationship is worth it. This has to be your son's journey...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Our local USSSA affiliate tried it for 13u fall ball (12u players moving up) for one year about ten years ago and tossed the idea. Once in a while someone posts there is 54/80 in their area.
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
54/80 is how USSSA 13U is played here in Michigan.
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
I know it was big in 2009 in the Northeast, played most tournaments at Roebeth Beach, DE. Sports at the Beach. Made the transition to 60"' 90" a gradual steps, pitchers were able to move up.
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Should my son switch travel teams for a team that attends more nationally recognized tournaments? That's a great question... However, to give you a better answer, I would need more information. What part of the country do you in? In general there is no need to play the big national events until 16U unless a kid is displaying talents & measureables earlier that would make him recruitable . Should my son switch travel teams so he can play-up against his grad year peers? In general, I would...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Thanks for all the great thoughtful responses, what a great forum to join! For some context ... we live in the SE PA not too far from Philadelphia and near the intersection of PA, DE and MD. I'm not at all worried about my son's transition to the big 60/90 field, his 7th grade school team played 60/90 last spring, and he did fine. We kept him in 12u this summer as we knew he would have a ton of fun (you are only 12 once). We recognized that playing up 13u summer travel would have been better...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Many of us were excited parents of a relatively skilled 12 yr old; I was two standard deviations on the really excited side. So, I merely give give a perspective of one who lived it. "to gage his ability against some nationally recognized 12u peers" This is the kool-aid served by organizations designed to suck money from families. Whatever a kid is at 12u is absolutely no indication of what he will be at 16, much less 18. Some kids will be 6' 160 lbs of undeveloped goo, some will be 4' 6"...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Honestly, I think you've been given great advice by all above. Difficult to project "what ifs" for 2024 grad based on the information you've provided. Your best source of direction and information is to ask your son what he wants to do so he understands that the family is making this a priority and an investment in his future. If he truly wants to play at the highest levels possible (even at his age) there are going to be sacrifices made by him and the family. He needs to understand this is...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
1. Balance will be very much defined by you and your son and how you interact. I never pushed my son one way or another. He decided what to do based on his personal preferences and opportunities. He played baseball/basketball/football through middle school. When he hit high school he dropped everything but baseball. While he loved basketball he realized at his high school and with his ability he would not get playing time. At fall baseball as a freshman he was topping out low 80s. With the...
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
This is one of the best posts I have read in a long time. There is so much good information that was touched on. Notice there was no mention of measurables, rankings, etc. Mention of focus on developing skills is spot on. Same for finding good coaches and instructors. Well done !
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
I’m going to provide a point of reference with a team you are probably familiar as an example of how hard it is to look down the road. I’m sure you’re familiar with Tri State Arsenal. They're a powerhouse. We played them so many times from 13u to 16u I became friends with one of the dads. When our kids made their respective 17u teams he told me only four players from the 13u team were good enough to make the 17u team.
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Re: Player Development roadmap for my 2024 Grad Year son - sure could use some advice
Ours was just the opposite. Played on top 10 national team from 9-14 then joined two other top 10 national teams through high school. Played travel ball until high school and played 9 months out of the year, but he also played football and basketball. Son played all the big tournaments from 12U up through high school and lived at Lakepoint it seemed like. Started all three varsity sports all four years in high school and played all summer and full fall schedule. So as Goosegg says no one...
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Re: PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase
Probably depends on how your current exposure (via club team) matches up with target schools - and whether the PG event will in fact help with similar matching of schools. Any specifics on what the target list looks like and whether he has been able to get in front on many of these? Or, are you looking to cast a wide net?
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They don't actually provide a target list. It would probably be a similar match with a few exceptions to what he's been in front of. Primarily from the Midwestern pool.
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There could be more economic options at this stage of his recruiting... It would helpful to know what class is your son 2017, 2018?
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Do you and/or your 2017 have a target list - based on whatever baseball evals you may have received AND 2017's academic profiles? I would assume that if you club team has sufficient contacts to get several D1's to attend their clinics/camps, then they should probably know which coaches generally attend the Cedar Rapids event. Probably worth it if your target schools are expected to be there, probably not worth it if simply casting a wide net.
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Re: PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase
I don't have experience with this event, but from experience I can tell you PG runs very organized events. What is your motivation to go? The rating? Does he have measurable's that will get attention? How big is he? How hard does he throw? How good of a student is he? What are his target schools? I'd be thinking about events where some of those colleges are attending. Also, it could make more sense to hold off for a PG Sunshine or Academic showcase in May or early June. He could get ranked...
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Sometimes people tend to think a player just shows up and colleges start recruiting them. Here is how it works... There could be 100 colleges watching your player perform and there might be very little interest, if any. There could be no colleges in attendance and your player is outstanding. There will be many colleges that show serious intertest. We have seen this happen over and over every year. The door is open! You see, we really publicize the kids that can play and college coaches trust...
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Along those lines I have a question. My son played 14u last year. We played 4 PG tournaments and saw very little of PG staff anywhere. I understand not a showcase. In one of the events they picked an all tourney team and my son didn't even throw because they were saving him as Sunday pitcher and we got eliminated Saturday afternoon ( not happy with coach that day for sure). On another occasion he was throwing in a semifinal and actually had some one from PG staff visit him in dugout during...
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So how do you know if your son has the talent to make it worth while? My son is a 2018 and at the end of the summer his FB was clocked at 85. He also catches and plays 3rd. Not sure how you get invited to a PG event, and how you decide if it's worthwhile for your son? We are just starting to think that baseball beyond high school might be an option for him, and trying to learn a lot, so any insight helps.
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2019lefty, If those tournaments were run by Perfect Game I assure you there was PG staff at every game. There are certain qualifiers that are run by people other than PG. IowaMom, If your son is a 2018 throwing 85 last summer and he lives in Iowa, you should email staff@perfectgame.org right away. Of course there are other things to consider, but 85 at his age will definitely create interest. BTW, over the past 20 years all but one player that has gone on to play DI college baseball or that...
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Re: PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase
Is there a difference between the different PG showcases? Which ones get you the most exposure? Son is 2018 and i am considering a PG showcase this summer. Will the national ones be better or can we stay local in TX and get just the same exposure? Is there a difference between summer and winter showcases? I would like to get some feedback on the most cost effective way to get maximum exposure. Thanks in advance.
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Thank you all for the info! I have a 2017 RHP going to this event. This is his 1st showcase, and we (mom and dad) were hoping for this event to help start the process in his baseball journey. Sounds like he picked a good one to start with. Thx-nebraska parents!
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HOWDYBASEBALL, Once again everything depends on how talented your son is. If he has the talent to play at the highest level or be a pro prospect, it is always best to get involved in the National events. Many ask why if he plans on staying within his state does he need to attend a National type event. The reason is it opens up opportunities and increases his value everywhere, including his home state. That said, if we see this type of player at any event, we will do everything possible to...
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PGstaff - thank you for the reply. Personally, i am already aware of PG's effectiveness in talent scouting and know that these events are highly regarded in the baseball community. Kudos to PG on this success!
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PG - I think you might have left out some valid info on who else is also looking at kids - and the relative numbers they each see in a given season and perhaps on a repeat basis. I don't know your numbers, but can only assume that your counts are a multiple of others - 10x+ for all but a few. I'm sure there are some regional differences (PBR's coverage comes to mind even though I personally am not familiar with them), but for the "typical" D1 - not counting all the Top 100 listings - PG has...
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PGstaff, As a follow up, it might be nice to know how you define talent at the national level? Velocity>x, 60yard<x, ht>x, wt>x?
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Sorry all- I was out fulfilling my last minute holiday procrastinator roll, and was delighted to see the responses and interest to my OP. My 2017 is 5'11 190. (I'm 6'1 and grew after junior year so hoping he can get another inch or so). He had a max FB last fall at 86. Sits 81-84. He is athletic and has been timed in the 60 at 6.55. As he has developed his mechanics, he has gained 5 mph to his FB since he started HS. His club team is well known in the Chicago/I-94 area for producing...
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Again, given that the club is well known and has some history in producing players, do they have ideas on what activities he should be doing - based on the level of college ball they see him playing? Any other guys from that team heading over to Cedar Rapids?
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Not sure, based on your description he should only be pitching. 6.55 and a strong arm are two tools that really stand out. Also, FWIW, power arms often develop into power hitters. There is a 2016 by the name of Josh Lowe who we selected for our All American Game. He is a tall (6'4") RHP and throws in the mid 90s with a good breaking ball and change up. At the same time he is the #1 tools guy in his class. Plus runner, Plus Arm, Plus Field, Plus hitter, Plus Power. He would be a first round...
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Thanks for your input. I was not in agreement to have him play for them as a PO. I should have told them no thank you. But it was his decision and he was ok with it. He justified the situation thinking he will get plenty of position play in the spring and summer high school season. I guess they didn't see enough out his bat during the 8 or so flips in the cage, or they felt they had enough outfielders. Sending you a PM.
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Re: PG WWBA
Dozens...perhaps even hundreds. Depends on how many prospects in a particular game, 0-30. Most. A lot, sometimes split across the week.
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If you're playing at LakePoint there's a good chance there will be hundreds spread across the complex, (from just about EVERY conference in the country) at every part of the day... Depending on the depth of talent of the teams playing could determine how many coaches are at each particular game. Hopefully the organization you're going with has a reputation of getting kids committed, because that could possibly outweigh depth of overall team talent... Coaches do travel to the High Schools...
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Not 100 percent going yet, but the team I would play for had about 90 percent d1 commits last year and their second team had 60 percent. I'm assuming more colleges attend the lake point games than outside fields.
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The honest answer is that there are 100s of coaches there but there is no way to guarantee who will be at each game. When my 2016 played there 2 summers ago we saw less coaches at our Lakepoint game than we did at several of our offsite games (there were lots of them at every site we played though). When he pitched at an offsite HS there were about 12-15 coaches there from Fla St, Duke, MD, VA, etc, etc. They were there to see the left handed pitcher and the catcher from the other team.
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Re: PG WWBA
Most of these coaches are working from a list of players. They're moving from field to field to see the guys on their list. They don't have much time for just watching games and looking for undiscovered talent. If you go, you'll want your name known to schools that might be a good fit for you. That can happen through your coach, or through your own contact with coaches before going. There are plenty of schools from the west coast, but more are from the south, midwest and east coast.
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Thanks Mk and Mid Atlantic, it makes sense to they have a list. I plan to reach out to the east coast schools that I think will be in attendance. How did your son talk to the coaches through phone or email to get them to watch a few games?