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Last night I watched three innings of a 14u game on PG TV. One of the teams was a national team who flies in players from all over the country each weekend. I don’t want to get into the absurdity of this for 14u.

The players in the lineup ranged in size from 5’10 to 6’3” and 170 to 210. Half the lineup are already college commits. I understand it’s a can’t lose scenario for the colleges making the offer.

What surprised me for players already committed their pitch swing selection was not that impressive. They were swinging at a lot of fastballs not in the strike zone. The opposing pitcher was cruising about 78. He threw a lot of fastballs a couple of inches above the strike zone. These “college committed” hitters kept swinging and whiffing or popping up. If they took they would have walked. Or the pitcher would have had to come down into the strike zone.

I would be reluctant to offer a 14u player who stared down the umpire after being rung up on a called third breaking ball that fooled him. Then he sulked his way back to bench and flipped his bat towards the bat rack. You hope he matures. But will a kid likely to always be told how great he is because he committed at fourteen mature?

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We've all been there and seen it.   Some kids act like kids, and some kids act like adults at 14 years old.   

More importantly, I'd like to know what their future (verbally committed) college coaches were thinking when they turned on PG TV (or were in the stands) and saw their recruit acting like a jack*ss.  Not a good look for the program.

JMO.

I’d always thought 8th grade recruits ridiculous – especially since my son, a late bloomer went the Juco route. However, this thread had me thinking about the Houston Banditos 11U/12U teams of 2006/2007. My son was a year younger, but these teams were legend when my son was in 10U/11U. Here’s the 12U’s USSSA’s page: 12U Banditos Black

Of the 14 players on the roster, 8 made pro ball with 3 logging MLB time. 13 of the 14 players played college and/or pro ball. The central Texas 12U team pulled players from as far away as California, (there may have been private jets involved) but still that’s some amazing youth recruiting.

@JucoDad posted:

I’d always thought 8th grade recruits ridiculous – especially since my son, a late bloomer went the Juco route. However, this thread had me thinking about the Houston Banditos 11U/12U teams of 2006/2007. My son was a year younger, but these teams were legend when my son was in 10U/11U. Here’s the 12U’s USSSA’s page: 12U Banditos Black

Of the 14 players on the roster, 8 made pro ball with 3 logging MLB time. 13 of the 14 players played college and/or pro ball. The central Texas 12U team pulled players from as far away as California, (there may have been private jets involved) but still that’s some amazing youth recruiting.

Oh, yes.  They were legendary.  Oldest son played against the Banditos a few times.  I've also heard the private jet story, and wondered if that was fact or fiction.

@JucoDad posted:

I’d always thought 8th grade recruits ridiculous – especially since my son, a late bloomer went the Juco route. However, this thread had me thinking about the Houston Banditos 11U/12U teams of 2006/2007. My son was a year younger, but these teams were legend when my son was in 10U/11U. Here’s the 12U’s USSSA’s page: 12U Banditos Black

Of the 14 players on the roster, 8 made pro ball with 3 logging MLB time. 13 of the 14 players played college and/or pro ball. The central Texas 12U team pulled players from as far away as California, (there may have been private jets involved) but still that’s some amazing youth recruiting.

That is awesome.  68-1 overall record.  Crazy.  And it looks like the vast majority of the games were shutouts.  

@TexasLefty posted:

That is awesome.  68-1 overall record.  Crazy.  And it looks like the vast majority of the games were shutouts.  

Any team going 68-1 should be playing up a level. Winning a lot of lopsided games doesn’t help players develop.

After 14u I decided our team only had three other legitimate competitions in most tournaments. We smoked two if not all three of our pool competition.

I moved the team up to 16u when the kids were fifteen. It was the equivalent of high school ball without the 17u studs. It prepared a bunch of freshmen to make varsity the following year.

We did play in a 17u tournament that fall. We faced a future ACC commit. He no hit us for five innings. I can still picture one of our hitters walking back to the dugout mumbling, “That was some nasty sh*t!”

There is an urban legend story in Texas about the Banditos. The theory is that the organization was formed as a way to launder money for the Bandidos motorcycle gang, which used to be based out of a small town just north of Galveston. When a gunfight broke out in a Twin Peaks parking lot in Waco (about 10 years ago) that involved members of the Bandidos it was rumored that it was a travel ball turf war. It seems incredulous but so many seemingly unbelievable things have turned out to be true that I guess it’s possible.

@adbono posted:

There is an urban legend story in Texas about the Banditos. The theory is that the organization was formed as a way to launder money for the Bandidos motorcycle gang, which used to be based out of a small town just north of Galveston. When a gunfight broke out in a Twin Peaks parking lot in Waco (about 10 years ago) that involved members of the Bandidos it was rumored that it was a travel ball turf war. It seems incredulous but so many seemingly unbelievable things have turned out to be true that I guess it’s possible.

Our youth baseball journey has had the Banditos organization on the periphery all the way through HS. I'm fairly certain that they're not affiliated with the motorcycle gang or the Twin Peaks Waco thing. I know there are stories surrounding the Deleon brothers (I have some of my own), but all I'll say is they treated my son well whenever our paths crossed.

The manager/parent of 12U team referenced is a very well know oil and gas senior executive and board member. It's highly likely his jet was used for player transport, but he wasn't the only parent on the team that owned a private jet. It's also rumored the manager/parent was/is the major investor in the Banditos organization.

I always liked when the kid's team played against the Banditos, it was good baseball with a bit of an edge.

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