2009 Louisville Slugger H.S. All-American List

Not to take anything away from anyone talented enough to be on this list... BUT

I sometimes wonder how these list get put together? I noticed that the top 3 HS players on PG Crosschecker were not included? (Purke, Tate & Matzek) I believe these players are also in BA top 10 list as well. Hmmmm

Again I am not taking anything away from those named (I am sure they earned the honor) BUT when you have close to 100 names on a list positioned as "1ST team", you would think those named in BA and PGX top 5 would show up somewhere?

Leads one to question the validity of some of these "All American" teams.

CBN is based on nominations by a players high school coach.

jerseydad,

I noticed the same thing. Not going to say much though because we do the Rawlings list that comes out soon. That might stir up some controversy too, but we won't miss the three you mentioned. I promise!

Anyway... Being from Iowa the first thing I noticed was 5 first team All Americans from our state.

Sioux City North HS has three first team All Americans.

I would be willing to bet that is a new record for an Iowa High School. With three first team all americans, should that HS be ranked high on the national polls?

Actually that team is very well coached and they are good. Dean McArdle is very talented and does deserve first team recognition. He signed with Stanford.

No Bryce Harper on the list? He'd only be a top 5 selection in the draft if eligible! I know he is only a Sophomore this year but you'd think he'd be an All-American.

I also didn't see a player who played in our Cal ripken league here in NH and moved to California after his Freshman year of high School, KC Hobson. I know he was in a couple of end of year Lists last year as a Junior and was at PG Nationals etc. I think he is easily in the PG top 100 (Not sure of actual rank but would love to know if anyone knows it..lol)

No list like,this is every totally correct


Nonetheless we, in the Northeast, have Mamroneck HS, NY in the Top 10 along Don Bosco Prep, NJ

Congrats to Mike Rosenfeld and Sean Hagan, both of whom played with us last fall for being named to the All American Team

This particular list differs from others in that it relies almost exclusively upon how the players performed in their HS games in spring 2008. They will also do a post-season list in June, which again will be based on in-season stats.

You will see some AFLAC guys on this list because talent often performs. But if a guy was injured during his HS season, or if he got intentionally walked so often that he couldn't rack up a bunch of HR's, he might not make the cut.

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Originally posted by OLDSLUGGER8:
CBN is based on nominations by a players high school coach.

So you can be considered a top 5 draft pick but if your HS coach doesn't turn your name in, you aren't considered to be a LS All American?

With the amount of exposure most the elite players have these days, a HS coach reco's as the primary source to determine a national All American list seems to be a pretty outdated way of doing things doesn't it?

2009 Louisville Slugger H.S. Pre-Season All-Americans

TUCSON, Ariz. — An all-star lineup of high school players spotlight the 2009 Louisville Slugger Pre-Season High School All-American teams.

The players are chosen from nominations received by their high school coach and recommendations received from other coaches and scouts. For more detailed information about the players, check out the January 23, 2009 edition of Collegiate Baseball. (See details below about how to get the issue.)

For the 13th year, Louisville Slugger is sponsoring the High School All-American teams. The staff of Collegiate Baseball newspaper selects the teams.
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From the boldface type, you can conclude the HS coach never made the nomination, nor did another coach or the scouting community.

These are preseason lists. If you look at postseason lists, they seem to get the job done pretty well.

It is always possible the player was nominated, but simply didn't have the numbers from last year to persuade the decision makers for this particular honor. Again, this often happens if the player had to sit a lot last year due to an injury, or if a whole lot of folks in the player's immediate vicinity put up more impressive numbers.

You do run into issues with certain teams padding their stats, but I think these folks have a pretty good track record of sniffing those out.

Congrats to those players listed.


Also

Target is having a sale on picture frames for those parents and HS coaches needing a place to frame a particular magazine page.

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Originally posted by rz1:
Congrats to those players listed.


Also

Target is having a sale on picture frames for those parents and HS coaches needing a place to frame a particular magazine page.

I did this for the post season awards:

http://www.sluggergifts.com/

I did notice two three sons of HSBBW on last year's final list.

Marrs
Sinclair
Shellhorn



Any others I missed?

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Originally posted by rz1:
Congrats to those players listed.

Does 2nd Team count? If it does then I am happy to see my son Michael listed along with all these great players.

2nd team DOES count Coach!

Congratulations for your son!

If 2d team doesn't count, you'd better take Midlo Son off the list!

Id Like to congradulate myself "William Chrismon" and my team mates "Matt Armstead" and Aflac all american -"Ethan Carter" on all going to the same high school in virginia on making this list.

congrats too all!

Go Menchville

The link doesn't seem to work. I can see the collegiate all-americans, but not high school.

By the way, congratulations to Thain Simon, sophomore RHP from Santa Clara on making collegiate 2nd team.

'06,

I clicked on the left column for All-Americans and on the subsequent page I clicked the High School All Americans link.

2009 Louisville Slugger H.S. Pre-Season All-Americans

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This particular list differs from others in that it relies almost exclusively upon how the players performed in their HS games in spring 2008. They will also do a post-season list in June, which again will be based on in-season stats.

Midlo Dad,

With all due respect, the list get a grade of about C+ for the glaring omissions. I am sure all the players on the list have good stats at some level of play, but the omissions are not because the players didn't have good Spring seasons. Proof of my point: Dylan Floro, Buhach Colony, California, who as a junior made Baseball America's post-season AA list, and as junior had ridiculously good strikeout, ERA, and won-loss stats. The same with Purke, Matzek, etc. Purke was an absolute stud down in Houston last year.

They didn't do all of their their homework for their list to be considered prestigious. That's probably why a lot of coaches didn't even bother to nominate their players.

Maybe they'll get it right in June. Maybe . . .