2010 AAA All State Team

Someone posted the AA lists on VirginiaPreps.com's message board:

Team Name School
Pitcher Grade
1st Kyle Crockett Poquoson 12 Reg I POY
1st Erik HeiligenstadtJefferson Forest 12 Reg III POY
2nd Gunnar Carroll Louisa County 12 Reg II POY
2nd Corey Armentrout Broadway 11
HM Kurt Van Ness Powatan 12
HM Shane Vlasik Broad Run 12
HM Adam Crotts Carroll County 12
HM Seth Martin Christiansburg 12

First Base
1st Ryan McBroom Courtland 12
2nd Michael Lascomb Potomac Falls 12
HM Trent Cundiff Northside 12
HM Patrick Martin Bassett 12

Second Base
1st Josh Gardner Eastern View 11
2nd Bryan Kluge Cave Spring 11
HM Derrek Shiflett Fort Defiance 12
HM Greg Guinta Kettle Run 11

Shortstop
1st Cody Holder Tunstall 12 Reg IV POY
2nd Chad Pinder Poquoson 12
HM Chris Huffman Fort Defiance 11
HM Ryan Foster Fluvanna 12

Third Base
1st Bryan Sanderson Jefferson Forest 12
2nd Logan Blankenbeckler Hidden Valley 12
HM Cole Procise Nottoway 12
HM Danny Morris William Monroe 12

Catcher
1st Nathan Wimmer Cave Spring 12
2nd Walker Turner Broadway 12
HM Scott Burkett Jamestown 12
HM Conner Hutzell Warren County 12

Utility
1st Steve Klaiber Cave Spring 10
2nd Tyler McFarland Turner Ashby 12
HM Travis Frum Chancellor 11
HM Brian McBride Brentsville 12

Designated Hitter
1st Jonathan Sandridge Stuarts Draft 12
2nd Ryan Johnston Broad Run 11
HM Cameron Ayers Chancellor 12
HM Will Treadway Martinsville 12
Outfield
1st Zak Wasilewski Tazewell 10
1st Derrick Justice Orange County 12
1st Gunnar Carroll Louisa County 12
2nd Matt Clear Tunstall 12
2nd James Kerns Brentsville 12
2nd Blake Sipe Fort Defiance 12
HM Kyle Crockett Poquoson 12
HM Corey Patrick Tabb 12
HM Patrick Arnold Northside 12
HM Tyler Allen Powatan 9
HM Bryce Hubbard Patrick County 11
HM Jerrod Groves Alleghaney 11

Player of the Year
Kyle Crockett Poquoson 12

Coach of the Year
Kenny Bennett Poquoson

With the recent releases of the Coaches and Virginia Preps AAA All-State Teams, a comparison might be interesting. Please note the Virginia Preps team did not identify a second team, only first team and honorable mentions. I believe the Coaches team came out in early to mid June and the Virginia Preps team last week. While I did not see any comments from the coaches, Virginia Preps posted some comments with their announcement last week.

Coaches team on left - position - Virginia Preps team on right

Tyler Thomas - first base - Tyler Thomas
Josh Swirchak - second base - Josh Swirchak
Ryan Lindemuth - short stop - Nick Poulos
Joey Burney - third base - Cameron Tubbs
Austin Kilbourne - outfield - Austin Kilbourne
Mitchell Shiflett - outfield - Mitchell Shiflett
Riley Beiro - outfield - Nick Rogowski
Cameron Cecil - catcher - Mike Perez
Charlie Morgan - DH - Nick Thompson
Patrick Harrington - Utility - Charlie Morgan
Bobby Wahl - pitcher - Bobby Wahl
Austin Chrismon - pitcher - Cody Cox

Charlie Morgan - POY- Bobby Wahl

John James (WS) - Coach of year - Jason Ritenour (Woodbridge)

West Springfield had a real powerhouse with the player of the year on both teams, first team pitcher on both teams and the DH and the Coach of the Year on the Coaches' team.

One thing to note is that I think the VHSL process considers only regular season play. Other lists, like VirginiaPreps.com and things like the RTD's All Metro team, will consider post-season performances as well.

So if someone gets hot during the playoffs, logically they could overtake someone in the considerations.

Not to mention, put two different decision making bodies together and the likelihood that they'll agree on everything is nil!

Actually, the differences between the teams run a little deeper than you might anticipate or suspect. Excluding player of the year and coach of the year, each team has twelve spots. The coaches, as I anticipated, favored seniors, placing ten seniors on the team. The Virginia Prep team placed only seven seniors on the team. While three more underclassmen may not seem like a lot or a significant difference, it is when your pool or sample is only twelve players/spots, i.e., 16.6% versus 41.6% underclassmen. My conclusion is that Virginia Preps gave more weight to individual stats and performances during the 2010 season while the coaches favored stats and performances accumulated over a player's career.

Disagree on your conclusions, in one of the instances where VA preps chose differently it was not at all based on stats either regular season or post season, just an attempt to compare the district pitching each faced and the opinion of the college coach of the VA preps choice. IMO they didn't do their due justice since the stats were glaringly different both in the regular season and post season.

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Originally posted by El gato:
Actually, the differences between the teams run a little deeper than you might anticipate or suspect. Excluding player of the year and coach of the year, each team has twelve spots. The coaches, as I anticipated, favored seniors, placing ten seniors on the team. The Virginia Prep team placed only seven seniors on the team. While three more underclassmen may not seem like a lot or a significant difference, it is when your pool or sample is only twelve players/spots, i.e., 16.6% versus 41.6% underclassmen. My conclusion is that Virginia Preps gave more weight to individual stats and performances during the 2010 season while the coaches favored stats and performances accumulated over a player's career.