Texas fired pitching coach Sean Allen who was the hitting coach before that. Doing some reading this morning that the pitching program was a hot mess. Whose fault is that?
Ole Miss one win away from championship game.
@TPM posted:Texas fired pitching coach Sean Allen who was the hitting coach before that. Doing some reading this morning that the pitching program was a hot mess. Whose fault is that?
Ole Miss one win away from championship game.
The SEC arrogance gets offensive and real old real fast. In the last ten years …
When Oregon State won the CWS they beat Arkansas in the finals and Mississippi State twice along the way.
When UCLA won they beat Mississippi State in the finals and LSU along the way.
When Arizona won they beat South Carolina in the finals.
Stanford went 9-5 against ranked teams this year. Heading into the CWS they had easily beaten Arkansas.
So, Stanford losing to two SEC teams is just losing to two good teams they faced. Regardless of conference teams that get to the CWS are either top ranked teams or next tier teams that are hot. The way it plays out two very good teams have to go 0-2.
Unfortunately for Stanford the CWS is the wrong time for the bats to go cold for a couple of games. They’re still loaded with pro prospects. It’s why they were ranked #2 and CWS favorite. Isn’t #1 from the SEC is missing? Stuff happens!
I don't think there is any less arrogance in the PAC-12 or the ACC for that matter. Coming from a mid-major conference and having played non-conference games against teams in the SEC, PAC-12, and ACC there is plenty of arrogance to go around.
@baseballmom01 posted:I don't think there is any less arrogance in the PAC-12 or the ACC for that matter. Coming from a mid-major conference and having played non-conference games against teams in the SEC, PAC-12, and ACC there is plenty of arrogance to go around.
My reference is specifically about this board over the past ten years.
I think you'd find that kind of SEC attitude everywhere that there are SEC fans, not just on this board. In fact, we are lucky to have people representing every level and conference here, even if they don't always agree. 
SEC fans are not arrogant. It's just that their baseball programs and football programs overall are miles ahead of any other conference 
@High Change Ups Go A Long Way posted:SEC fans are not arrogant. It's just that their baseball programs and football programs overall are miles ahead of any other conference
100% agree!
Fans are ridiculous everywhere that is why they are called fanatics. Pay attention to the players. There isn't one team that made it to the CWS that didn't think they could win it all. That is confidence. It just so happens that the SEC has 3 teams still in it as of today. Results matter, and it proves how incredibly talented and deep the SEC is in 2022. Nothing more...nothing less. Tip of the cap to them as they've earned it.
BTW..Oklahoma and Texas may be SEC members very, very soon. So factor that in too.
PS...Some of these recent games have not been close. You can see their killer instinct that comes with playing in a deep competitive conference helps in the post-season.
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My comment was a follow up to anotherparent's post about Stanford losing.
IMO, Stanford had an easier road regional/super to get to Omaha. I don't follow west coast baseball so this recent post season was the first time all year that I watched and it wasn't impressive, to me. I am not particularly interested in past history.
Unfortunetly wins and RPI gets you a top seed but who you play prepares you for the post season and yes at this point SEC teams beating up on each other proves the point.
That is not arrogance but the truth. It wasnt meant to offend anyone.
@High Change Ups Go A Long Way posted:SEC fans are not arrogant. It's just that their baseball programs and football programs overall are miles ahead of any other conference
This ^^^^^! These are just facts. Some may not like it, and I’m not sure that it’s good for college sports in general. But it’s true nonetheless.
West coast college baseball has a proud history. Many great players have come from those programs. But it’s not what it used to be. Not near as many elite level programs as in the past.
FWIW the SEC has had a school in the finals of the CWS 14 of the past 15 years. That includes this year.
@adbono posted:FWIW the SEC has had a school in the finals of the CWS 14 of the past 15 years. That includes this year.
Exactly. Pure facts
Besides watching my son’s D3 team, the only other college Baseball I watch all year is the SEC. Why? In part it’s because my life is extremely busy and I only have so much time to watch Baseball, but also because plain and simple I find SEC Baseball to be the most entertaining.
And I’ll take SEC Baseball any day over MLB 3 true outcome boredom
Dear College World Series,
Will you please mix in a close game or two? 10 games so far with the closest being 4 runs and average spread nearly 7
@adbono posted:This ^^^^^! These are just facts. Some may not like it, and I’m not sure that it’s good for college sports in general. But it’s true nonetheless.
West coast college baseball has a proud history. Many great players have come from those programs. But it’s not what it used to be. Not near as many elite level programs as in the past.
FWIW the SEC has had a school in the finals of the CWS 14 of the past 15 years. That includes this year.
It just means more.
There's no competition between the south and the rest of the country. They care more and will spend a higher % of their discretionary time and income on college sports than I do. It's a market like any other.
It's worth noting that, of PG's top 10 California recruits in the '22 class, 7 are committed to non-west coast schools. 2x to Texas, 2x to Duke, 2x to LSU and one to TCU.
I know a couple of these kids. Money (NIL), facilities and exposure seem to be the factors. Smaller contributing factor is political and cultural comfort zone (i.e., conservative parents wanting their kids in a red to reddish state).
@OskiSD posted:There's no competition between the south and the rest of the country. They care more and will spend a higher % of their discretionary time and income on college sports than I do. It's a market like any other.
It's worth noting that, of PG's top 10 California recruits in the '22 class, 7 are committed to non-west coast schools. 2x to Texas, 2x to Duke, 2x to LSU and one to TCU.
I know a couple of these kids. Money (NIL), facilities and exposure seem to be the factors. Smaller contributing factor is political and cultural comfort zone (i.e., conservative parents wanting their kids in a red to reddish state).
Again, more facts. 10 years ago elite HS players from California leaving the state was a rarity. Now it isn’t. Besides the factors that you mentioned, which are all valid, there is also a considerable difference in fan base support. SEC games regularly draw 5000+ fans per game. When UCLA plays USC I bet 5000 people don’t even know the game is being played. And I’m talking about two of the most storied programs in college baseball history. Not only does it mean more in the SEC, in the Pac12 it seems to hardly mean anything at all. I watched USC play UCLA a couple years ago and nobody was in the stands. You could hear the conversations that Little Leaguers were having in the stands on the TV broadcast. I just don’t understand the lack of interest.
@adbono posted:Again, more facts. 10 years ago elite HS players from California leaving the state was a rarity. Now it isn’t. Besides the factors that you mentioned, which are all valid, there is also a considerable difference in fan base support. SEC games regularly draw 5000+ fans per game. When UCLA plays USC I bet 5000 people don’t even know the game is being played. And I’m talking about two of the most storied programs in college baseball history. Not only does it mean more in the SEC, in the Pac12 it seems to hardly mean anything at all. I watched USC play UCLA a couple years ago and nobody was in the stands. You could hear the conversations that Little Leaguers were having in the stands on the TV broadcast. I just don’t understand the lack of interest.
I should have mentioned the fan support, which is another big factor. Oregon State draws but that's about it.
@adbono posted:Again, more facts. 10 years ago elite HS players from California leaving the state was a rarity. Now it isn’t. Besides the factors that you mentioned, which are all valid, there is also a considerable difference in fan base support. SEC games regularly draw 5000+ fans per game. When UCLA plays USC I bet 5000 people don’t even know the game is being played. And I’m talking about two of the most storied programs in college baseball history. Not only does it mean more in the SEC, in the Pac12 it seems to hardly mean anything at all. I watched USC play UCLA a couple years ago and nobody was in the stands. You could hear the conversations that Little Leaguers were having in the stands on the TV broadcast. I just don’t understand the lack of interest.
There’s a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar. When college baseball starts just in major league pro sports alone there are two NBA and two NHL teams playing. In April add in two MLB teams plus how far the other four go in the playoffs. Pro Beach Volleyball draws more than college baseball.
Well, it's not an all-SEC final.
Check the background on the SEC Baseball Marketing staff. The College students receive credit for their Sports Marketing ability. They are future Minor League and College Summer ball Marketing Directors.
There are many avenues in baseball to "move forward". Maybe they will create the "Zip Code" games.
Bob
ESPN and most other media outlets feed and have always fed the SEC hype.