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LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
Any Predictions or scouting reports for this district? The district now includes two Mansfield schools and the Arlington schools minus Seguin.

My Prediction:
1. Martin
2. Mansfield Summit
3. Lamar
4. Arlington or Mansfield
5. Arlington or Mansfield
6. Bowie
7. Sam Houston
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F funneldrill1,000+ posts
Lamarfan,

Why do you have Lamar at #3? I figured with Arnsberg and Laronde back that they could give Martin a run for their money.

As the former coach at Summit, I like seeing them up there. Their top 2 pitchers were a combined 13-4 last year with the Junior lefty going 9-2 as a soph. last year.

Mansfield has 5 starters back including their #1 pitcher from the past 2 seasons. They will be tough.
LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
Funnel,

Lamar will be very tough. If Laronde shows improved consistency this season, Lamar could be an elite team. He has great stuff, just needs to focus on the mental approach of pitching.

I predict a dog fight between Martin, Lamar and Summit. Lamar tends to have at least one slip up every season where they lose a game they shouldn't. That is why I made the prediction that they finish 3rd.

Martin has several starters returning including the LHP, Person, who pitched well for them last season. Martin also has Ragira "sp?" who I think will be a star.

The top 5 teams in this district are all very talented and then throw in Bowie, who has several kids returning, and this district is tough top to bottom. The exception being Sam.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Lamar Fan 08:
Any Predictions or scouting reports for this district? The district now includes two Mansfield schools and the Arlington schools minus Seguin.

My Prediction:
1. Martin
2. Mansfield Summit
3. Lamar
4. Arlington or Mansfield
5. Arlington or Mansfield
6. Bowie
7. Sam Houston


I'm just glad the game is still played on the field and not predictions. I think a lot of you are going to be surprised at the end of the district play.
LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
Vikingdad & Funnel

I am not disputing anything you guys have heard but not pitching Arnsberg creates some questions for Lamar. If Arnsberg doesn't pitch than Lamar will need some youngsters to step up in a big way this season. Arnsberg and Laronde got the bulk of the innings last season. If an Arnsberg position switch was on the horizon why didn't Lamar use some of the younger guys in the pre-season tournaments to give them some Varsity Action. The only other varsity guys returning that pitched other than Laronde and Arnsberg are Robinson who had 10-12 innings on the mound and Duncan who was the closer. This could change my predictions.
LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
Normally the coach would tell the player where to play but there have been situations at Lamar, and other schools of course, where parents and or college coaches have had input. (I am not speaking of this particular situation. I am referencing the late 90's early 2000's at Lamar)

As far as the tournaments, I was talking about last season pre-season tournament games. We didn't really look at any sophomores. I would think if the coach had the idea of a future position switch that might keep a kid off the mound; he might get some younger guys varsity action.

Lamar does need a catcher this season. Might be a great move for Arnsberg. I am not a huge fan of the 6'5" catcher but it works for Joe Mauer of the Twins.

Screwball, any input on this situation?
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M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Are the inmates running the asylum again? Doesn't the coach tell the kid where to play, not vice versa? What preseason tournaments? I must be out of touch with HS sports.

"If the coach lets him catch, then he will pitch (some) otherwise he is not pitching"??? Huh???

Cool


PD... I don't think you are out of touch at all. Unfortunately nowadays parents sometimes rule where there child plays. Since Todd Van Popple got big $$$'s out of high school a few parents feel that there child is in this class and decide to play agent.

On the opposite side, my son is a senior and I have never had a conversation with his coach. I feel that it is not my place to dictate and tell him how to do his job no matter how bad I want to sometimes... lol.
B bball71tx10+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Maverick0714:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamar Fan 08:
Any Predictions or scouting reports for this district? The district now includes two Mansfield schools and the Arlington schools minus Seguin.

My Prediction:
1. Martin
2. Mansfield Summit
3. Lamar
4. Arlington or Mansfield
5. Arlington or Mansfield
6. Bowie
7. Sam Houston


I'm just glad the game is still played on the field and not predictions. I think a lot of you are going to be surprised at the end of the district play.


Maverick is now making predictions??? PLEASE. Aren't you the same guy that went to Texas and is allowing Maverick Jr. to consider OU?

Didn't you predict UT to win the Big 12 South? Where's Lunch?

A lot of questions, HUH?
M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by bball71tx:
quote:
Originally posted by Maverick0714:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamar Fan 08:
Any Predictions or scouting reports for this district? The district now includes two Mansfield schools and the Arlington schools minus Seguin.

My Prediction:
1. Martin
2. Mansfield Summit
3. Lamar
4. Arlington or Mansfield
5. Arlington or Mansfield
6. Bowie
7. Sam Houston


I'm just glad the game is still played on the field and not predictions. I think a lot of you are going to be surprised at the end of the district play.


Maverick is now making predictions??? PLEASE. Aren't you the same guy that went to Texas and is allowing Maverick Jr. to consider OU?

Didn't you predict UT to win the Big 12 South? Where's Lunch?

A lot of questions, HUH?


I see BBALL has woken up from his 3 month hibernation...

I didn't make any preditions about the district. I knew people from OSU have problems with and understanding the english language...

Mav Jr. has been told he can go to any school in the world other than Zero U and Notre Dame..

Oh and by the way... where did OSU end up...
M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by Lamar Fan 08:
vikingdad,

I know it happens, it just really burns me up. Baseball is a Team sport and things like this can really handcuff a coach.

This kid has been a catcher in the past. Most of his pre-highschool years he spent catching and I think he caught on the freshman team.


My son has played against KA since age 11. I have never seen him wear catching gear. He has always been a pitcher and first baseman on his select teams. I have no knowledge about HS.

Since his dad is a pitching coach for Toronto, I'm sure that he has had numerous conversations with college and pro scouts about what is the best position for his son.

And I agree with some of the posts too. This situation happens more often than we think.
V vikingdad10+ posts
to me it is easy, tell him he is welcome to try out for the catcher spot and if he is determined to be the best catcher then he will catch. otherwise he has a spot at first and pitching. if he elects not to do that then that is his choice. appreciate his efforts in the past and good luck at ASU.

even if it ends up hurting the team for one season, the coach would earn so much respect from the team and parents it would carry over into the years ahead.

my information also tells me that even at the ASU tryout there was not alot of catching done. that is why this is really confusing to me.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by vikingdad:
to me it is easy, tell him he is welcome to try out for the catcher spot and if he is determined to be the best catcher then he will catch. otherwise he has a spot at first and pitching. if he elects not to do that then that is his choice. appreciate his efforts in the past and good luck at ASU.

even if it ends up hurting the team for one season, the coach would earn so much respect from the team and parents it would carry over into the years ahead.

my information also tells me that even at the ASU tryout there was not alot of catching done. that is why this is really confusing to me.


This coach will do what is best for the team. Mark it down!
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
vikingdad,

I understand what you are saying. It is tough on the coach when he wants to do what is best for the team and the parent wants what is best for their kid. Especially if the parent is a big-leaguer and tries to "big-league" everybody.

During the tournament season, the only way a kid can play catcher and pitch is if you let him pitch the last game/day of the tournament (unless you don't give a flip and let him play catcher the day after he pitches). Well, if he is your supposed ace, then I guess you are not necessarily trying to win that tournament...and that is OK. I would bet the coach is thinking about his district schedule...Tuesday/Friday. The kid could be the starting pitcher on Tuesday, then catch on Friday...or vice versa. This way, the team still has their #1 pitcher and IF THE KID ACTUALLY EARNS THE JOB BEHIND THE PLATE, then he gets 1 game a week behind the plate. If the kid is indeed the #1 pitcher, and he is pitching, then that should be what is best for the TEAM. If the kid is the best catcher and plays catcher the other game that week, then that is what is best for the TEAM.

I think most of us would understand that situation. Problem is, there are a few parents out there that don't see it that way. "Oh coach, the cross-checker from MLB Team A can only make it on Tuesday and wants to see him catch. So, you need to juggle your rotation so that scout can watch my son."

With this situation, if you read into it too much during scrimmages and tournaments you might jump to conclusions. The answers to all your questions will be revealed when the team gets to their district schedule. I mean coach could use the tournaments to audition the kid at catcher while trying to develop some other pitchers. That is a good thing...just don't complain when they head into district with a .500 or below record.

There are so many scenarios that I could come up with. Really, that is not fair to the coach, the kid or that team.

Remember, the season is a journey, not a destination. If it were a destination, we'd all win state! Enjoy the journey!!!
collikarcollikar1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
Remember, the season is a journey, not a destination. If it were a destination, we'd all win state! Enjoy the journey!!!


Well stated, FD.

The kid in question is not only a tremendous athlete, but also an excellent student.

I would wager that his intelligence, along with his athleticism, will make it an easy transition behind the plate.
collikarcollikar1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
Collikar,

I agree with you, the kid is without a doubt a "ballplayer." As a former scout, the left handed hitting catcher with power is something that you don't see often. It is a rare commodity indeed.


Thank you, FD!

The Great Jack Sharp's star catcher suffered an injury that needed to heal for a few games. He temporarily used one of his power hitting lefties that could put'em out even though he needed some help with proper blocking technique.

An opposing coach/ex-major leaguer in the stands commented on how he had lost respect for JS because of using a lefty behind the plate.

If you’re athletic, intelligent, and committed you can usually be successful.
P PAW-FECT100+ posts
Collikar

Yes.... that power hitting lefty could catch my little lefty anytime! Although I have heard Baylor will be developing him as a flame throwing closer off the mound!

FD

Alan McDougal at CHHS had three pro-dads sitting in the stands last year. I can only speak for one of them....but I would be shocked if any one of them ask for a position or playing time (even when the season went south) Coach McDougal is a man on a mission and he will not change the course!

Good Luck FD ....enjoy your commments.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by PAW-FECT:
Collikar

Yes.... that power hitting lefty could catch my little lefty anytime! Although I have heard Baylor will be developing him as a flame throwing closer off the mound!

FD

Alan McDougal at CHHS had three pro-dads sitting in the stands last year. I can only speak for one of them....but I would be shocked if any one of them ask for a position or playing time (even when the season went south) Coach McDougal is a man on a mission and he will not change the course!

Good Luck FD ....enjoy your commments.


Not every ex-pro tries to "big-league" people. I think it comes down to the individual regardless of what their day job is. I have had a couple of ex-pros for dads and they were both great! Our philosophies were similar and they would come out from time to time and help out. But, I have seen from a distance a few that were very "meddling" and gave the HS coach alot of grief.
V vikingdad10+ posts
i have one last thought on this subject. if this kid is as good as everything thinks and he does have something worked out with ASU then why let him "transition" to behind the plate and develop his blocking skills at the expense of other kids who may not have an ASU waiting on them. The other catchers may not have been able to afford the best select teams, the best hitting instructors, the best equipment and may be hoping to make it to some JUCO if they can get playing time their senior year. Why let this kid, or his dad, take a chance away from other kids?
tychcotychco1,000+ posts
I guess I don't see this as a big deal. Position changes occur all the time, especially with talented athletes.

If Arnie behind the plate is better than any other catcher, whether they have caught their whole career or not, then he should be there, at least some of the time.

If he isn't better than the other catchers, he goes back to 1B/P.

It happens all the time
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collikarcollikar1,000+ posts
Well, I can tell you what all this assumption does, but I won't.

I find it hard to believe that the Lamarr Varsity coach isn't going to field the best player at every position. Doesn't he have a contract with the district? All varsity coaches that I know are held responsible for their records/behavior and have an athletic director and or principal that hold them accountable; otherwise, they are fired, released, or put on a growth plan.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by 11sdad:
VD,

If this kid is a college type catcher then why would the coach not catch him? If he had a college type pitcher should he not pitch him or should he let little Johnny pitch so "maybe" he can get good enough to make a Juco? Roll Eyes


I think he will do that very thing. I think the issue here is a parent/kid alledgedly making ultimatums to the coach.
V vikingdad10+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by funneldrill:
quote:
Originally posted by 11sdad:
VD,

If this kid is a college type catcher then why would the coach not catch him? If he had a college type pitcher should he not pitch him or should he let little Johnny pitch so "maybe" he can get good enough to make a Juco? Roll Eyes


I think he will do that very thing. I think the issue here is a parent/kid alledgedly making ultimatums to the coach.


that is the issue for me. if the kid is a "college type catcher" then fine, he should catch. but based on my knowledge he may have caught in little league some but that is it. so he is going to transition to catcher during his senior year at he expense of other kids?
as far as contracts, AD's, principles, etc. give me a break.
collikarcollikar1,000+ posts
What kind of break are you looking for?

Are you looking for sympathy or results?

If you are result oriented, what have you done to procure said results?

Once you've obtained the knowledge you seek, what are your intentions with the information?

Answering these questions might lead you to confirmation of your point, whether it is positive or negative.
LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
vikingdad,

I truly believe KA will turn out to be the best option at catcher. He is a good athlete and has great knowledge of the game in general. Was the situation handled properly, we will most likely never know, but I think it will be a good move for Lamar. There are several younger guys coming up from the JV that can play 1B.

Now, when KA is pitching I am not sure what they will do. Maybe catch Watkins if he plays or Hadley(SP?) who is a junior. I think it will all work out in the end and Lamar will be fine with KA on the mound once a week during district play. Now Lamar may sacrifice some Non-District games but they don't mean a whole lot anyway.
17sbigbrother17sbigbrother10+ posts
[Martin only has 3 starters returning, 4 if you count Person and 5 if you count the DH.

My money is on Lamar to win the district.]


Why wouldn't you count Person as a starter this year for Martin?

Hopefully he can duplicate and/or increase his performance from last year. I think Martin will do well this year....I've heard they have a great chemistry amoung the players returning.
T Tiger8010+ posts
Hi y'all...first post but have followed this discussion for a while now. Here are my 2 cents worth.

4-5A is going to be very competitive...lots of talent thru several teams. As far as Lamar there are a couple of players that will impact their success. One is Lewis who is a pure hitter and a senior up from Jv named Meza that can play 3rd and hit as well. Watch for Duncan. I have umped games with this kid playing for about 5 years now...he flies under the radar. Huge talent both defensively and offensively. He and Arnsberg led team in RBI...Duncan batted 7th in doing so...heard he committed to Western Michigan

Martin has the youngster Riguerra(sp?) who is also huge talent and another pure hitter in Hiller...very good backstop in Garcia (UTA) and if Person duplicates pitching of '08...they will be tough.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by Tiger80:
Hi y'all...first post but have followed this discussion for a while now. Here are my 2 cents worth.

4-5A is going to be very competitive...lots of talent thru several teams. As far as Lamar there are a couple of players that will impact their success. One is Lewis who is a pure hitter and a senior up from Jv named Meza that can play 3rd and hit as well. Watch for Duncan. I have umped games with this kid playing for about 5 years now...he flies under the radar. Huge talent both defensively and offensively. He and Arnsberg led team in RBI...Duncan batted 7th in doing so...heard he committed to Western Michigan

Martin has the youngster Riguerra(sp?) who is also huge talent and another pure hitter in Hiller...very good backstop in Garcia (UTA) and if Person duplicates pitching of '08...they will be tough.


With Lamar or Martin guaranted to win the district I guess the other teams will have to fight for the third and fourth spots to go to the playoffs... I believe a lot of people are gonna be surprised at the pecking order at the end of the season...
LF Lamar Fan 08100+ posts
Maverick0714

Your posts read like you are annoyed with reading about Martin or Lamar winning district. You have mentioned several times about how people will be surprised at the final standing. Please fill us is in if you have a different opinion. Enlighten us why Mansfield will be good. Honestly, I don't know much about the team that Mansfield will field this year. Remember, most of what is talked about on a message board is to stir up conversation. I don't think anyone is underestimating Mansfield or Summit for that matter. Both those schools have had good baseball seasons as recently as last year. So fill us in on Mansfield and or Summit.
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M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by Casual Observer:
My guess is Maverick0714 likes the salty group of juniors at Mansfield High. Maverick0714 please tell us a little about this group and the returning seniors.


I'm really not into pumping up of one team or another. I've have know most of the players from all the schools you've mention since they were 9. I'm simply amused.

I don't know much about any "Salty Juniors" but there should be 3 starters for Mansfield that will graduate 2010. Pitchers not included
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Lamar Fan 08:
Maverick0714

Your posts read like you are annoyed with reading about Martin or Lamar winning district. You have mentioned several times about how people will be surprised at the final standing. Please fill us is in if you have a different opinion. Enlighten us why Mansfield will be good. Honestly, I don't know much about the team that Mansfield will field this year. Remember, most of what is talked about on a message board is to stir up conversation. I don't think anyone is underestimating Mansfield or Summit for that matter. Both those schools have had good baseball seasons as recently as last year. So fill us in on Mansfield and or Summit.


Sorry you think I'm annoyed but that is not the case. I go and watch my son play but I'm not a big fan of high school baseball. I'm more into the summer teams because I believe they are much more competitive... Just my opinion...

And as I stated to CO... Im just amused not here to pump up one team or another...
17sbigbrother17sbigbrother10+ posts
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Originally posted by tychco:
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Originally posted by 11sdad:
I was talking about position players from last year, Stew was a pitcher only that's why I didn't count him in that group.


Oh, what do you know...you are a football dad now... Big Grin


HAHA...pretty funny tychco! No sweat 11sdad....I guess I misunderstood your context. No worries! I think Person is going to be a pitcher only this year as well. From what I've heard thru the grapevine he's been working on his conditioning and mental aspects of pitching this offseason. Hopefully Rucker can pitch consistently this year....if so then they will have 3 solid pitchers with Ragira, Rucker, and Person.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
Mansfield has their # 1 pitcher back, a kid that split time behind the plate and in LF, 1B, SS, and CF. If their Juniors step up then they have a chance to finish near the top of the district.

Summit returns their #1 pitcher, #3 pitcher, RF, C, a kid that was the DH for half the season, LF that started almost half the district games, and the 2B who has committed to Coastal Carolina. All the pitchers that return were a combined 17-5 last year. Add a move in from California to the mix and the Jags should compete for a playoff spot.

Summit is at a huge scheduling disadvantage. Everyone plays Sam Houston before they play Summit in district. So, every team in that district "can" rearrange their pitching so that they can throw their Ace against Summit. Of course, who they play after Summit could be a deciding factor of whether or not they will do that.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
I agree with Tiger 80, "on paper" Lamar and Martin are the favorites. Arlington returns everybody but the catcher, I listed who MHS and Summit have back. When Bowie's best pitcher is on the mound, they can beat alot of people.

Only my beloved Texans are the only team without a shot for the playoffs. But, Coach Powers will get everything that he can out them.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by funneldrill:
I agree with Tiger 80, "on paper" Lamar and Martin are the favorites. Arlington returns everybody but the catcher, I listed who MHS and Summit have back. When Bowie's best pitcher is on the mound, they can beat alot of people.

Only my beloved Texans are the only team without a shot for the playoffs. But, Coach Powers will get everything that he can out them.


Fd... did you go to Sam ???
T Tiger8010+ posts
Dist 4-5A is just one dist. in the DFW area...While 4-5A has a lot of talent depth, just take a look at the number of kids playing D-1, not to mention other college levels from the DFW area. DBU rode primarily "locals" to the regionals....Baylor, TCU, UT, Rice, OU and on and on have DFWkids. It could be argued that this area is one of the top, if not the TOP geographic area for baseball. I have read or been told about a few kids from here that have been "raided" by non-traditional schools for this area. the Arnsberg kid to Ariz. St, Mizzou has grabbed a couple, and it is confirmed that the Duncan kid is at W. Mich. It is on their website. The possibilities for local kids is expanding, especially if those mentioned go away and play well.

If you really stop and think about it and if the media would get more on board, baseball recruiting in DFW could/might be providing more opportunity than...GASP!....Dare I say it(?) Football
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Maverick0714:
quote:
Originally posted by funneldrill:
I agree with Tiger 80, "on paper" Lamar and Martin are the favorites. Arlington returns everybody but the catcher, I listed who MHS and Summit have back. When Bowie's best pitcher is on the mound, they can beat alot of people.

Only my beloved Texans are the only team without a shot for the playoffs. But, Coach Powers will get everything that he can out them.


Fd... did you go to Sam ???


Yes I did. All 3 years I was there we made the playoffs, won 1 District Title. My junior year we were 20-1 in the regular season and ranked #3 in the state going into the playoffs.

Our Bi-district that year matched us and Arlington High up against South Grand Prairie and Duncanville.

SGP was #2 in the state.
We were #3 in the state.
Duncanville was #4 in the state.
Arlington was #5 in the state.

Both series were played at the old Arlington Stadium. We beat Duncanville in 3 and Arlington beat SGP in 2.

The next week #1 Houston Waltrip lost a 1 game playoff early in the week, leaving us the highest ranked team in the state. We lost in 3 games that weekend. Arlington went on to the state tournament and lost in the semi's. If we would have had a rematch with them in the Regional Finals, it would have been back at Arlington Stadium.

I believe the eventual state champ that year was Houston Bellaire led by a P/SS named Chuck Knoblauch. However, I believe he was injured and did not play in the state tournament.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
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Originally posted by Maverick0714:
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
I agree with Tiger 80, "on paper" Lamar and Martin are the favorites. Arlington returns everybody but the catcher, I listed who MHS and Summit have back. When Bowie's best pitcher is on the mound, they can beat alot of people.

Only my beloved Texans are the only team without a shot for the playoffs. But, Coach Powers will get everything that he can out them.


Fd... did you go to Sam ???


Yes I did. All 3 years I was there we made the playoffs, won 1 District Title. My junior year we were 20-1 in the regular season and ranked #3 in the state going into the playoffs.

Our Bi-district that year matched us and Arlington High up against South Grand Prairie and Duncanville.

SGP was #2 in the state.
We were #3 in the state.
Duncanville was #4 in the state.
Arlington was #5 in the state.

Both series were played at the old Arlington Stadium. We beat Duncanville in 3 and Arlington beat SGP in 2.

The next week #1 Houston Waltrip lost a 1 game playoff early in the week, leaving us the highest ranked team in the state. We lost in 3 games that weekend. Arlington went on to the state tournament and lost in the semi's. If we would have had a rematch with them in the Regional Finals, it would have been back at Arlington Stadium.

I believe the eventual state champ that year was Houston Bellaire led by a P/SS named Chuck Knoblauch. However, I believe he was injured and did not play in the state tournament.


I was at Sam my Senior year (78) we got knocked out by Midland Lee on a very bad call. I was at DeSoto the 3 years prior and went to the state championship in (77).
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
I was eating at Buck-n-Loons a few Saturday nights ago (we are bi-weekly regulars there) and Coach and his wife were waiting for a table. We talked for about 30 minutes, it was great! He has alot of former players that are coaching so we were talking about everyone that is coaching and where they are at and so. Of course, the most notable Sam Houston Alumnus and former player of his is Kansas City Manager Trey Hillman.
F funneldrill1,000+ posts
Yes I do, he graduated the year after I did, he could swing the bat. We were so loaded in those years he played JV as a Junior. His senior year though I think he was the leading hitter in the district...and that was a 10 team district that included Sam, Lamar, Martin, Arlington, Bell, Trinity, Haltom, Richland, Grapevine and Burleson.

I remember a cat from Thomas Jefferson, big right handed pitcher named Morris Moss. The dude had a full beard when we were 15 years old! Very intimidating, plus he threw some serious "Chedd" when we were 15-16 years old. Saw him in a tournament in Houston during the summer.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by funneldrill:
I was eating at Buck-n-Loons a few Saturday nights ago (we are bi-weekly regulars there) and Coach and his wife were waiting for a table. We talked for about 30 minutes, it was great! He has alot of former players that are coaching so we were talking about everyone that is coaching and where they are at and so. Of course, the most notable Sam Houston Alumnus and former player of his is Kansas City Manager Trey Hillman.


Trey and I send emails to each other from time to time. Really a great guy... Wish he could have been the Rangers Head Coach...
M Maverick0714500+ posts
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Originally posted by 24'sdad:
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Originally posted by Maverick0714:
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
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Originally posted by Maverick0714:
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
I agree with Tiger 80, "on paper" Lamar and Martin are the favorites. Arlington returns everybody but the catcher, I listed who MHS and Summit have back. When Bowie's best pitcher is on the mound, they can beat alot of people.

Only my beloved Texans are the only team without a shot for the playoffs. But, Coach Powers will get everything that he can out them.


Fd... did you go to Sam ???


Yes I did. All 3 years I was there we made the playoffs, won 1 District Title. My junior year we were 20-1 in the regular season and ranked #3 in the state going into the playoffs.

Our Bi-district that year matched us and Arlington High up against South Grand Prairie and Duncanville.

SGP was #2 in the state.
We were #3 in the state.
Duncanville was #4 in the state.
Arlington was #5 in the state.

Both series were played at the old Arlington Stadium. We beat Duncanville in 3 and Arlington beat SGP in 2.

The next week #1 Houston Waltrip lost a 1 game playoff early in the week, leaving us the highest ranked team in the state. We lost in 3 games that weekend. Arlington went on to the state tournament and lost in the semi's. If we would have had a rematch with them in the Regional Finals, it would have been back at Arlington Stadium.

I believe the eventual state champ that year was Houston Bellaire led by a P/SS named Chuck Knoblauch. However, I believe he was injured and did not play in the state tournament.


I was at Sam my Senior year (78) we got knocked out by Midland Lee on a very bad call. I was at DeSoto the 3 years prior and went to the state championship in (77).




I was at Duncanville 76-79 and remember DeSoto very well. Garnett,Nix,Lawrence,Keasler etc...
I still see alot of the guys I played with from Duncanville.


Wow... bringing back the memories now.. David Nix is my cousin and his twin sons graduated from Keller. Brad Garnett was the 3rd player picked in the 78 draft by Pittsburg. One of the greatest atheletes I've ever seen. Third player picked and he got $70k for signing. My how times have changed.

We went to state in 77 being in 3A and Duncanville was there in 4A... We both lost.
17sbigbrother17sbigbrother10+ posts
At Martin..Tues, Mar 3, 2009
....................R..H..E
L.D. Bell..2031040..10 7 7
Martin.....7100003..11 10 4

Pitching - L.D. Bell
Pitch: K.Bartsch, B.Adams(2), Z.Worrell(4)
Catch: H.Lockwood

Pitching - Arl Martin
S.Person - 3.3IP 4H 5R 4BB 2K
D.Rucker(came in 4th), T.Rizzotti (6)
Catch: D.Garcia (batted 4-4)

WP: Rizzotti (2-0)
LP: Worrell

Batting
L.D. Bell..2B: C.Spradlin
Martin.....2B: J.Hiller 3, D.Garcia 2

Martin won this game in walkoff fashion. CF Hiller was walked to load the bases--he had 3 doubles in this game. SS Jensen came up next with 1 out in the bottom of the 7th and he stroked a shot to RCF to clear the bases and win the game.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by 17sbigbrother:
At Martin..Tues, Mar 3, 2009
....................R..H..E
L.D. Bell..2031040..10 7 7
Martin.....7100003..11 10 4

Pitching - L.D. Bell
Pitch: K.Bartsch, B.Adams(2), Z.Worrell(4)
Catch: H.Lockwood

Pitching - Arl Martin
S.Person - 3.3IP 4H 5R 4BB 2K
D.Rucker(came in 4th), T.Rizzotti (6)
Catch: D.Garcia (batted 4-4)

WP: Rizzotti (2-0)
LP: Worrell

Batting
L.D. Bell..2B: C.Spradlin
Martin.....2B: J.Hiller 3, D.Garcia 2

Martin won this game in walkoff fashion. CF Hiller was walked to load the bases--he had 3 doubles in this game. SS Jensen came up next with 1 out in the bottom of the 7th and he stroked a shot to RCF to clear the bases and win the game.


Total errors 11 ??? is that correct? Very unlike both of these teams...
17sbigbrother17sbigbrother10+ posts
[Total errors 11 ??? is that correct? Very unlike both of these teams...]

Yea, that is correct. I believe LD Bell had 3 errors in the first. LD Bell's outfield was a bit suspect but it is early in the season. Two of Martin errors were from SS and Pitcher trying to make a difficult play and ended up with throwing errors that led to 4 runs. If you look back at Martin's previous 5 games....they are averaging about 3 errors a game. Yea, I know....very unlike either team.
tychcotychco1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Maverick0714:
quote:
Originally posted by tychco:
Mansfield can swing it with anyone. Should be a team to watch throughout this season.


Thanks Tycho... I believe we caught JNW on an off day.


Unfortunately, Northwest has had more than one off day, but the new coach is juggling kids around to see what works. Hopefully by the start of district play, he finds it.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by tychco:
quote:
Originally posted by Maverick0714:
quote:
Originally posted by tychco:
Mansfield can swing it with anyone. Should be a team to watch throughout this season.


Thanks Tycho... I believe we caught JNW on an off day.


Unfortunately, Northwest has had more than one off day, but the new coach is juggling kids around to see what works. Hopefully by the start of district play, he finds it.


Looks like JNW has some talent just a matter of putting it all together... Kinda same with us.

I hope TC has a good year. I got an email from Sam this morning and he is looking forward to the summer.
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