5A Playoffs Rd 1: S.Lake vs Irving

MOON has picked "SL Carroll over Irving".

Big spread and photo in DMN this AM on Blake Beavan. They are calling him "fiery" and from the stories in the article that is one way to put it.

I heard Irving got run ruled tonight. Is that true? Did Beavan pitch?

Yes, Beaven pitched.

Ouch. I don't know the story, but it sound like Beavan started, walked several batters and then was pulled. Coach must have been antsy, or the pitcher was just having a bad day.

Southlake appears to peaking at just about the right time.

Regardless of tonights game, Blake Beavan is a stud. Guys can't be on every night.

I am not sure how many pitches he threw tonight but if his pitchcount was down, Southlake better take advantage and win game 2 and not give him another chance in game 3 or it will be lights out IMO.

From another thread -
baseballmom
HSBBWeb Old Timer Posted May 05, 2006 05:59 AM
WTG CR!! applaude
Here's a nice "blerb" on a great kid!! He should be getting more press. Currently leading in K's... very good ERA. It's in his genes...Dad played back in the 60's. Dad was also my son's first pitching mentor at age 11-13. Great family!
I'm a big fan of Irving High, too...I'm alum from the 69!! Beaven is showing great stuff this season...just had an off night...

GRAPEVINE – Irving's Blake Beavan got rocked, and Southlake Carroll's Chase Reid rolled.
Reid had nine strikeouts en route to a four-hitter. Irving (13-10) never had a runner reach third base.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highsch...baserup.d023d15.html

Great job by Chase Reid. Baseballmom mentioned the Dad. Isn't he an old OSU Cowboy pitcher?

Saw in the thread on Chase Reid ..."wonder if he will end up in OK for college?" Don't know what his plans are but I do believe his father wears Okla State orange. They used to have great pitchers up there.

Who is pitching game 2? Who has the stronger game 2 pitcher?

I don't agree or disagree. Don't know, but I thought I'd include this in this thread since it is a SLake/Irving topic:

Bunjeebuddy - Member
Posted May 05, 2006 09:29 AM
"What has happened to sportsmanship?
Southlake fans are the rudest bunch of spectators I have ever encountered. It is one thing to cheer for your team, it is another to chant personal attacks on specific players. Last night's chant of "over rated" (among other things)at IHS pitcher Blake Beavan was uncalled for and obnoxious. This not the first time Southlake fans have stooped so low. Last year during football season SL students were sporting T-shirts that said " I used to go to Grapevine, but then my Dad got a job" I know that SL fans are not the only ones out there acting this way, just the most recent..."

Beenthere.... those fans were from another local school who big BB had flipped off at their game. I attended both games and can tell you that those boys out there were there to get a little revenge on BB. Wrong or right that was the case. While i wouldnt dare say those kids were right for shouting those things I would also say BB brought a lot of that on himself for flipping off the fans and "throwing his K's up." What did everyone think of the DMN story that portrayed BB as somewhat of a jerk?

I did read the DM News story on Beavan. They didn't directly slam him, but they did describe enough detail on his finger gestures, etc. that would leave many readers thinking negative. I haven't seen it so I don't know. I know the paper always has him at some unbelievable ERA, but where I have seen him pitch against really tough teams, the outcomes seem to vary.

could it be that "Tiger" attitude ?

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Originally posted by Melynda:
could it be that "Tiger" attitude ?

Do you mean Irving Tigers or Dallas Tigers? If you mean Dallas Tigers, I know the founder and he definitely does not support a bad attitude.

COWBOY -- welcome aboard the board ..... I try and joke as much as possible 'round here since everyone is so uptight over the great game of baseball (notice the smiley face after my comment??) ..... and I know the "founder" of the Dalls Tigers VERY well !!

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Originally posted by beenthere:
I did read the DM News story on Beavan. They didn't directly slam him, but they did describe enough detail on his finger gestures, etc. that would leave many readers thinking negative. I haven't seen it so I don't know. I know the paper always has him at some unbelievable ERA, but where I have seen him pitch against really tough teams, the outcomes seem to vary.

Believe me BB ERA is not unbelievable. I watch him pitch in the summer time against top competition in Texas and the US and the results does not VARY. There are no really tough HS teams; the kid is the real deal PERIOD.

The hand gesture referred to in the DMN article is American sign language for "k" Beavans is a good kid that needs a little maturing. But don't they all at 17?

swac.....I would agree with you about BB...but if he is the real deal and his results don't vary.....what happened to him against SL....8 earned runs in 1.3 innings of pitching.....he came in to the game with 3 earned runs all year...does that say something more about SL's team?

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Originally posted by DBall18:
swac.....I would agree with you about BB...but if he is the real deal and his results don't vary.....what happened to him against SL....8 earned runs in 1.3 innings of pitching.....he came in to the game with 3 earned runs all year...does that say something more about SL's team?

When you say the results vary that means to me you are saying he is inconsistent and that he is not. Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, etc. all have bad outings. We saw one of the worst teams in the AL tampa bay beat Randy Johnson to death. That said nothing about that team other than Randy had a bad outing. Same with the SL team, they had a good day and BB had a bad outing. Believe it, he will beat them more times than the the performance that team had last night.

A good team should be able to overcome a poor performance by its best player -- that's why they play a 3 game series in most situations. I still believe the best team will win this series and that does not mean that BB has to carry the load for Irving. It's playoff baseball and, in theory, the best team will win state. Those that do not win are still good baseball teams, as they prove throughout the season. I believe that Matt Sulentic is the best 4A hitter in the state, but chances are his team will not make it to Austin (or Roundrock, wherever 4A plays the final four).

Let's not get too deep into this analysis of Beaven. His record speaks for itself. He is a very very good baseball player!

Not doing an analysis but I will take up for his play.

I wasn't referring to you specifically -- I agree with you that he is very consistent.

PD, I said that because I know you and I can say it to you,

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
It's playoff baseball and, in theory, the best team will win state.

Sorry PD, I disagree totally. There is a ton of luck to making to a state tournament and then winning it. The best team RARELY wins. Take for example, the GP team with Kerry Woods, Kevin Walker and two other All-Staters. They didn't win. A lot of luck, coin flips, umpire's calls, bloopers, etc. have to go right for you. That's what's crazy about these 1 game series's and the state tournament 1 loss and your out format.

OD --- notice I said "in theory" --- you posted my quote, see "in theory" -- it's right there. Aren't all playoff situations set up with the idea that the best teams will advance to the final game? But there is no perfect system. We're in Texas, but many understand that the Horns may not have been the best college football team in the nation. See Florida basketball. See NHL (no Red Wings or Stars). A team has to click -- yes, it takes good fortune along the way. According to the polls, the Woodlands is the state's best 5A team. Does that mean they will win state? Of course not....but "in theory", they should.

For the record, I think each weekend should include best-of-three. There is a better chance that the best team will advance each week. It's hard to play later into June. Obviously, some sort of series in RR might be seen as more equitable than winner-take-all. My point in the above post was to suggest that people trust the system and relax in terms of SLC versus Irving. As I said, I think the best TEAM will win -- it may or may not be the team with the best player.

Many times the best team wins. Certainly not always.

-PD

PD, Okay, got it. I'm just to old to think to much about "theory." In reality, I don't think the system is designed for the "best" to win. There are so many play-off levels with these short series (yes, I think three is short also) that the "best" team rarely wins state. That's all I'm saying.

I was just giving you a hard time OD -- our team is out, I'm a little bored.

Just heard Southlake eliminated Irving. Think the score was 2-1 or something like that.

MOON's prediction on this one was right. He said on 5/4 "SL Carroll over Irving"

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Originally posted by CoCo = Clutch:
Beenthere.... those fans were from another local school who big BB had flipped off at their game. I attended both games and can tell you that those boys out there were there to get a little revenge on BB. Wrong or right that was the case. While i wouldnt dare say those kids were right for shouting those things I would also say BB brought a lot of that on himself for flipping off the fans and "throwing his K's up." What did everyone think of the DMN story that portrayed BB as somewhat of a jerk?

I do not know who you are or where you come from but you have wrong information! Blake did not flip off anybody and would'nt. He is a respectful kid. The "k" sign is just as it was described in the DMN article. It was something the whole team rallied behind, and made to the playoffs. The fans set up a "K" corner 2 years ago when he was a freshman and the team had joined up by signaling to the "K"corner here is another "K". Since the last 4 games there have been no more "k" signals to the K corner because not everyone knows what it means. It was an Irving High School thing thatjust got the kids and fans pumped up. It was NEVER a flip off EVER. So know everyone knows the real story! And as for you even thinking that the DMN portrayed BB as somewhat of a jerk, man you are way off base and abusing your right to even comment. DMN should be commended for even going to the lengths of trying to explain Irving's little k symbol. Besides their reported was also at the LD Bell and SGP games and saw it for themselves.

At least some people out there really know about BB and the type of player/kid he is on and off the field!

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Originally posted by SWAC:

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Originally posted by beenthere:
I did read the DM News story on Beavan. They didn't directly slam him, but they did describe enough detail on his finger gestures, etc. that would leave many readers thinking negative. I haven't seen it so I don't know. I know the paper always has him at some unbelievable ERA, but where I have seen him pitch against really tough teams, the outcomes seem to vary.

Believe me BB ERA is not unbelievable. I watch him pitch in the summer time against top competition in Texas and the US and the results does not VARY. There are no really tough HS teams; the kid is the real deal PERIOD.

Well I guess the fact he was 7-0 with 2 shut outs in district would give you a BIG vary in ERA?? I think the district record speaks for itself. Those wins included 2 - South Grand Prairie and LD Bell wins and 1 Trinity win at which all 3 were in the playoff hunt until the last game!!

Well I don't know who the idiot is that read DMN called him a jerk. Because they didn't. Blake is a class act and always has been. He has gotten nothing but taunted for the last 2 years because of jealous, no talent baseball players, can't stand when a pitcher shows them up EVERY GAME. Now he did throw up a K sign and flip off a guy in the GP game. And Wes and I sat him down that night and told him to never do that again. Now he was very mad but he is not a Jerk or Firey. It was just a bad scene. But the press doesn't print what the kid was saying to Blake the entire game. Cursing and taunting him from there own dugout. It never happens like the press writes it, but to the public eye, lies are always more enjoyable "in sports" than the truth, am i right?

Listen, Blake is a great kid, and a great talent. I know him beter than anyone. He deserves every bit of success that has achieved. He works hard and is very respectfull to peers and coach's. I mean who would'nt get mad and say something stupid when the other team has absolutly no class or respect for this game!!!!! The story should have been in the stands with the trashy fans that follow that school SGP and GP!

Sign Out - Blake's Brother

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Originally posted by beenthere:
I did read the DM News story on Beavan. They didn't directly slam him, but they did describe enough detail on his finger gestures, etc. that would leave many readers thinking negative. I haven't seen it so I don't know. I know the paper always has him at some unbelievable ERA, but where I have seen him pitch against really tough teams, the outcomes seem to vary.

Good Kid, Talented Kid, Great Competitor. If you spend your time worried about what others say and think, you won't be able to enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride, because it will end some day.

Great comments today on Blake on the Area Code web site...