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So I was looking at the 90 MPH Formula the other day and was wondering why I don’t throw harder. The ideal bodyweight in the formula is 170 while I’m 165, the deadlift requirement is at 400 lbs and I can do 350, and I can meet the reverse lunge requirement and chin-up requirement. I believe my motion is relatively solid and have worked with a coach to fix it up.  However, I throw 76 MPH top which is about 14 mph away from 90 MPH. I put a video down below looking for feedback. Thanks!

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OK I'll bite. 

First I have no idea what the "90 formula" is but to put values on  targets seems too generic to me. Second I am not qualified to give you specific things I see in your delivery other than I have filmed many many hours of my son's mechanics and sent them to his HS and college coaches and see a number of subtle problems. I would also not expect you to get much helpful specific advise here that will help you, as well as my comments, but here you go, first the good stuff.

You appear to be a healthy, athletic and energetic player, hard working, and looking for help, with lots of potential. This is what will allow you to achieve your max potential. 

Again this is just a few points. Yes your delivery is "close" to a classic delivery however you are leaking power all over the place.

My recommendation is to get another pitching coach who specializes in the use of high speed camera's. A few points: look up "hip drill" , 2) get your rear foot on the rubber to generate some power, 3) your opening early and there is not tension in your torso and 4) you appear to be generating all of your power from just your arm power, which is also "short arming". 5) You look like you need to work less on upper body workouts as you seem a bit to "built up" in the upper body.

Go to Driveline baseball and look through their videos to help you understand proper mechanics, and get a pitching coach who can help you fix some of your issues. Work on flexibility and look into driveline or Wolforth programs for help.

Good luck!

 

 

Keep working on hitting each of the metrics. You should strive to blow them out of the water rather than just getting close to them/barely hitting them. I saw Dr. Heenan posted a mechanical breakdown on his social media platforms today. He would probably do the same for you if you sent him an e-mail. Also, improving mobility, throwing weighted balls, and getting on a good long toss program will definitely help with velocity. Congrats on your progress so far though, I am trying to do the same.

I believe 90MPH formula was coined by Dr. Josh Heenan. I agree with some of his work but the downside is that pitchers, like yourself, believe that if they hit certain numbers, they will throw 90. Nothing will change if timing or more specifically, biomechanics, are ineffective. Would agree with BOF, that there are several flaws in your delivery. If you have a pitching coach right now that is not able to identify these flaws, you are wasting your money or your parents money. I would find a PC or baseball performance coach that will not give you one lesson or training session without a full assessment. You are doing some things right early on which has me concerned that you either have some muscle imbalances or are being over-coached. Either way, you need to find someone in your neck of the woods that can help you get moving in the right direction because you obviously want to get better and are willing to do what it takes to get there. Best of luck to you.

Completely unqualified opinion. Only experience I have is with my son. 

1. Get balanced and a few inches more upright at top of leg lift. 

2. Legs appear to be swinging out instead of driving to target. 

3. Try to get a little more over your front foot before release. 

4. Glove appears to be swinging out on finish, probably trying to counterbalance for leg swinging out. 

 

Basically try try to gather “drive” at start. Stay more “in line”.  

5.  Get someone more experienced than me, if you can afford it or have access. 

I agree that you seem to be leaking power in a lot of places. A few things that stood out immediately are that you squat and drop instead of drive and drop. Your legs are along for the ride and not a key driver of power. Your delivery also seems to stall just before you release the ball. I'm not sure how to explain it - it's like your shoulder is open and you just release the ball with no core or shoulder drive.

All the formula is is a system of checks and balances. If you meet the requirements, you are supposed to be able to throw 90 mph. However, creating a formula so general for all pitchers to strive for is incredibly difficult. Continuing to work on your mechanics as well as working hard in the weight room will most definitely show an increase in velocity.

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No offense to wareagle and I think this is why most on this board will stay away from specific mechanical advice, but getting taller and coming to balance does more harm then good. Unless it comes natural, meaning it has never been coached or used after trying to mimick the mechanics of another pitcher. Leg is swinging out because you are not doing a good job of driving the rear leg, good way to get this feeling is to use a form of heiden or lateral bound. If you PM, I can send you a video clip of two different movements I am using with our P's to learn how to feel rear leg drive. Also highly recommend CVB if you can get access to one as it is a tool that can be used to feel lower half and in particular leg drive. 

So, I'm of the same opinion (leaking power) with most on this thread and (warning) I'm also incredibly unqualified as a professional pitching coach.  All three of my kids were pitchers who went to the same professional pitching coach for 10+ years, so I saw him get the max velocity and control out of each of my son's mechanics.  It looks to me like you are rushing your delivery causing you to overpitch and trying to use your arms to generate velocity.  Pitching is like hitting a baseball, tennis ball, golf ball, etc... in that power comes from core and legs.   If you were my son, I would suggest slowing down your motion so you could focus on your bottom half, balance point and hand break. This drill could make your motion smoother and more efficient.   Then you can bring your windup back to a speed that feels comfortable for you where your hips and legs are not leaking the power you can generate from core and legs.  This video (ignore the first 10 seconds) does a good job of explaining a drill that I think could help you.   https://youtu.be/e3bxDHuVPqI

As always, JMO.   Good luck!

 

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My son hitting 90 was a big deal. I can recall getting the pic of the Stalker "91" pic from his pc while out of town on business and being uber excited for him. I knew he had put the work in the previous fall and sacrificed and as a smaller guy wasn't being given P5 D1 attention at the time that he got later when he was bumping 6's and 7's.

Not sure of a formula generating 90 but preparation, hard work and mechanics sure help with a heavy dose of genetics.

Good luck and keep us posted!

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Here is what people are calling 'short arming'.  Notice your forearm doesn't go back until your elbow is mostly in front of your body.  The rear elbow should not be forward when this begins to happen.

Actually, I think you are using your lower half very well.  You properly coil in the hip and shoulder and hold it as you stride forward (see below pic).  Most kids don't do that well.  Then you do the short arm.  I'm not entirely sure at this point why you are doing this.  But I think  it's a function of upper body technique. (So, basically you have a nice lower body technique, then you don't use it)

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So, work with someone to get your upper body to be in the right position, at the right time.  Check the videos and see if it's working.

I bet you have 10mph of untapped potential.

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Know pitchers who do not lift, long-toss or throw weighted balls that have hit and exceeded 90mph.  

Be careful not to fall into a “cookie cutter” approach to 90mph. Chances are your mobility is not where you think it is and is causing improper muscle firing / sequencing.  See an Isolated Active Stretching specialist and have your entire body evaluated. You may be surprised about your current state of mobility / flexibility.

Also, see a chiropractor to check your alignment...muscles will not function at peak performance if the bones are not aglined properly.  If your Chiro has a Graston specialist have him check you out also. Scar tissue build up impacts muscle performance as well.

Where is your nutrition at? Have you had a test done to see what vitamins, minerals, etc. are missing from your diet? Give your body the fuel it needs and watch what happens.

The body is an amazing machine once you get it working the way it was designed. 

Once your body is functioning as it should, Driveline, FBR, TBR, Cressy and others can be a huge help. Best of luck and please keep us posted on your progress.

 

 

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