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POLOGREENPOLOGREEN1,000+ posts
Please don't kill me about complaining about a fellow umpire BUT I had to get this out! A couple of weeks ago I was assigned a JV game with an umpire I did not know. I emailed him about three days before the game and on game day I called his cell. Email I received back was nice enough and the phone conversation was excellent...he had a travel distance of 4 miles and I 24 miles, I got to the 4PM game at 3PM and dressed for behind the plate. He got there 10 minutes before 4 and was dressed in civilian clothes.
During the game I see him with his cap on backwards (I gave him ONE DIRTY LOOK), this really p%$$&d me off BUT the kicker was when he had his cell phone out texting and messaging during a couple of dead ball situations!
I never said a word during the game BUT AT OUR CARS...OH BOY!!!!! NOW I'm NOT a rat but I don't want to work with this guy ever again.......should I let my assignor know? I've been fighting with this ever since.
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06catcherdad06catcherdad1,000+ posts
Yes, you should let the assigner know. More importantly, whoever is in charge of conduct should know. Professional umpires take a great deal of pride in presenting a 'professional' appearance, whehter it is in how they wear their cap, conduct their tasks or have clean and pressed clothes on. This guy is the epitome of unprofessional.

As an umpire, I would not work, ever again, with such a partner.

As a baseball coach, I'd never let him work another of my games. And more to the point, if I caught an umpire texting during an inning on the field, HE is the one who'd get thrown out of the game! He would not get paid, and he'd never work another of my games.
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
1. Call your assigner, report the behavior and redline the umpire.

2. If he's new, check in with the assigner next year to see if he's learned anything. If he has, work with him again. As gross as the misbehavior was, if he corrects it, he should get a second chance just as players and managers get a second chance.

3. If, however, he's a vet who has acted like this before and has already been spoken to, write him off.
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
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Originally posted by 06catcherdad:
As a baseball coach, I'd never let him work another of my games. And more to the point, if I caught an umpire texting during an inning on the field, HE is the one who'd get thrown out of the game! He would not get paid, and he'd never work another of my games.


Never is a long time. I've had coaches act much more inappropriately and sure as he11, they're back a couple of days later.

If he's correctable and trainable, I have no problem with second chances. If he isn't, then by all means, dump him permanently.
A archangel10+ posts
Actions by one umpire reflects on both for that game. We are told to NOT meet between innings after controversial calls, as it looks bad (agreed).
However, I wouldnt wait till after the game to say something- I'd give my opinion privately at the time(between innings)though thats all it is- we cant force a partner to change. Im sure others will post that as "UIC", they can eject their partner, but show me the specific rule on That!
Being a veteran should mean that they have experience and rules knowledge, but not always....
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
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Originally posted by archangel:
Actions by one umpire reflects on both for that
Being a veteran should mean that they have experience and rules knowledge, but not always....


One can have ten years experience and one can have one's experience ten times.

We don't refer to our "veteran" umpies as veterans, but rather by their pool assignment. We have five year "veterans" in both pool 1 (the top) and in pool 4 (next to the bottom.)

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