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A recruiting contract..fascinating

infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
I just read this on the website of the USF Dons.

http://www.usfdons.com/sports/...eases/20100930zhsdek


Frankly, I was on the site to look at the 2011 schedule and found the contract.
Looks like they are making an open and, from their view, knowledgeable choice that they don't need to get caught up in the frenzy to offer HS freshman and sophomores. They are going after "late bloomers" and late developers.
To my way of thinking, this is pretty much what they have been doing with many recruits for years. They are just putting it in writing.
When one considers the amount of talent in Northern CA., and with one less DI program to absorb that talent based on what occurred Tuesday, one can question whether this represents anything drastic.
What I also don't know is who signs it, if anyone.
To be honest, it looks to me to be a "statement" of their recruiting policy, rather than a contract.
On the other hand, it is refreshing to see a school make an effort to have the process seem a bit more transparent.

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CADadCADad5,000+ posts
I get the impression that this is simply putting in writing what they've been practicing for a while with only a few exceptions. Sounds like a smart thing for them to do. They've always stressed the "USF family" in their recruiting and seeing players over an extended period.

This approach makes it more difficult for players outside the area to get consideration however. It could get pretty expensive attending multiple camps for out of area players and it will be more difficult for them to see out of area players multiple times.
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fenwaysouthfenwaysouth10,000+ posts
When the "Dons" make a contract, it gets lots of attention. I love the nickname. ;-)

Yes, this is very interesting. I guess this is the way things should be in a perfect word. I applaud them for their unique approach and way of thinking. Whether or not it is successful, we'll see in a few years. It is refreshing to see the Administration and Athletics get together.

As CADad points out, it does make it more difficult for out of state players. I don't know if that is a good thing.
C CaBB1,000+ posts
I think it's great that it's out there for the public to see and I think it makes a lot of sense to give players more time to develop. I have seen players that verbaled as soph's in hs and have not been what the college program expected once they were on campus.

USF is an expensive school and neither the recruit or the coaches can afford to make "mistakes" in their choices. Good for them.
bsbl247bsbl2471,000+ posts
I agree infielddad, fascinating "Contract". I hope it works out for the program, the Dons have a great coaching staff. I have not met any of their current coaches, but my son was in contact with Coach Hobbs, who apparently chose to return to his alma mater, Missouri this season. Coach Moore is now back on the staff at USF as the Associate HC after one year with Washington.

It's evident from several team videos that were sent to my son via email over the last year that the Dons have nice chemistry. They simply have fun, work hard, and the coaching staff keeps everyone loose! Coach Giarratano runs a nice program, and it would be nice to see them take off in the WCC.
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
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I like # 4. Rewarding current players for their hard work, dedication and contribution to the program. Now that sends a good message to your players.


I think this is interesting.
With regard to #4, what happens if one year the coaches choose not to reinvest the $30,000 in returning players? Does any one player have a right/contract they can enforce? I doubt it.
But I have heard good things about the staff and expect they mean what they say and will do what they say.
With that background, isn't this also, impliedly, saying to potential new recruits we want to offer you less(nothing) coming out of HS and you can "earn" more later?
25% at USF is going to be $10,000 to $12,500 and leave the balance of $35,000 to $40,000 for the player.
Is this a subtle way to attract more recruited walk on's, pay more to those in the program who are performing...with "enticement" for the future for walk-on's, based on performance?
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bsbl247bsbl2471,000+ posts
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Originally posted by CADad:
I get the impression that this is simply putting in writing what they've been practicing for a while with only a few exceptions. Sounds like a smart thing for them to do. They've always stressed the "USF family" in their recruiting and seeing players over an extended period.

This approach makes it more difficult for players outside the area to get consideration however. It could get pretty expensive attending multiple camps for out of area players and it will be more difficult for them to see out of area players multiple times.


I was thinking the same thing. I believe their original intentions were to broaden their recruiting landscape with the hiring of Hobbs last year with his So Cal connections. Who knows now? Nor Cal has a tremendous amount of talent, and the unfortunate loss of CAL baseball can't do anything but help a school like USF.
observer44observer441,000+ posts
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Would second the unique nature of the program.
We took a recruiting trip to USF....couple things different from any other program we encountered...things that I will never forget...First was the way that they players hung around the HC's office...Clearly it was home for them. Second was nature of the relationship of players to the coaches...clearly they genuinely trusted, believed in, and respected in each other and their shared relationship at a level that you just do not often see in sports or beyond. It was as much family as team.

...And watching the program since then you can clearly see that unlike many college programs they really DO take the time and effort to develop players.

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CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
Didn't see this one! My son really liked the USF coaches. USF works the local HS and JCs scene pretty good and they have good contacts with scouts. Over the years I have run into USF coaches several times at games no other coaches were working. USF seems to do a good job of developing guys you never heard of. If USF is interested in your son you should feel good that they see something in your kid.

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