Academic money

Not necessarily. A preferred walk on has a prearranged agreement with the coach, and yes, receives no athletic money and did not sign an NLI. An athlete with academic money only is first and foremost a student with the hopes of becoming an athlete, but depending on the "agreement" with the coach, is also susceptible to not making it past the fall cuts.

The rules are the same whether you are receiving academic, athletic or no money at all. Once you have officially participated in a sport with the team you are bound by the transfer rules.

An NLI is only signed if you are getting athletic money. You will also get an academic contract if you are offered it, but this does not bind you to the institution like a NLI does.

Thanks for your quick reply. That would make sense as to why the player would not show up as a signee with the NCAA national clearinghouse and subsequently with sites like PG because they did not sign a NLI but may have signed an academic scholarship. I assume that Sites like PG get a feed from the NCAA on players that sign a NLI. If you sign a NLI you show up in the clearinghouse, if you do not sign a NLI then you do not show up in the clearinghouse?

The clearinghouse only crtifies that you are eligible for ncaa athletics---it does not even assure college admission

BOF,
Any student who transfers is bound by transfer rules, whether he participated or not. It is true that a player who either didn't participate for two years before his transfer, or one didn't participate and wasn't recruited won't have to sitout a year, but he is still subject to the academic requirements.

goldenrule,
Anyone entering college as a freshman must have registered with the clearinghouse to demonstrate academic qualifier and amateur status. It doesn't matter if he has signed a NLI. I do not believe that the NCAA announces who has signed a NLI. However, most colleges do announce their signees. A site like PG records (usually verbal) commitments, which are typically announced by the recruits and informally confirmed by the schools before the NLI early period.

As usual you are much more precise on these things 3FG.

3FG is correct. The NCAA doesn't announce who has signed an NLI.

goldenrule - Prospects must be registered with the NCAA Eligibility Center (formerly the Clearinghouse) in order to sign an NLI. If they're not registered there, they can't be offered an NLI.

I am really receiving an education. I know that in our local paper they announced who in the area signed after the first day of the early the early signing period. The college where my son attended had not even published the list of signees. Yet our paper had my son's name in it. Also, one of the schools in our area still has not even published thier list of early signees, yet PG has a list of their signees or at least some of them. I assumed that there must be some place where these news papers or PG is getting a list, so I assumed that when you sign your NLI the school had a reporting obligation to send that student athletes name to the NCAA. I guess I was wrong.

This thread raised good questions, so I did a little searching in old posts and I became a little confused.

Naturally, we have started our spreadsheets for 2013's most likely/favorite schools. Most are very good about giving you an idea of academic scholarship criteria, so we have started the estimating game of what kind of academic merit aid he might receive.

So, say he is awarded an academic package that equals 20% of COA at his school of choice. Coincidentally, the baseball coach really wants him. Does that mean that he could end up receiving only 5% of COA in athletic money, for a total of 25%? Here all along we were thinking minimum 25% for baseball PLUS academic money . . .

And, to the OP's point - if he is awarded 25% of COA in academic money (or more) and the coach wants him would there be nothing in writing?

I'm reading elsewhere that 25-35% is considered very good for a total.

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Originally posted by golden rule:
Also, one of the schools in our area still has not even published thier list of early signees, yet PG has a list of their signees or at least some of them. I assumed that there must be some place where these news papers or PG is getting a list.

Perfect Game also update their list of their commitments when the athletes voluntarily update their own PG profile and add the college they committed to.

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Originally posted by 2013 Parent:
So, say he is awarded an academic package that equals 20% of COA at his school of choice. Coincidentally, the baseball coach really wants him. Does that mean that he could end up receiving only 5% of COA in athletic money, for a total of 25%? Here all along we were thinking minimum 25% for baseball PLUS academic money . . .

And, to the OP's point - if he is awarded 25% of COA in academic money (or more) and the coach wants him would there be nothing in writing?

First of all, athletic scholarships are not expressed as a percentage of COA. Instead, it's a percentage of a full grant in aid-- which is tuition, fees, room and board plus a nominal amount for books. The COA is usually two or three thousand more, because it includes other incidental costs that even a frugal student could expect to incur during the school year. The federal government defines what is included in the COA, and each college must calculate their COA every year. It is used in determining need based aid.

For D1 baseball only (15.5.4.): An institution shall provide each counter athletically related and other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than 25 percent of an equivalency. A counter is any student who is receiving any countable aid. Almost all aid provided by a college is countable, excepting academic grants which meet NCAA standards. Quite a few colleges, especially privates, offer academic aid to students who don't meet the NCAA standard. Such "academic" aid is countable, meaning it is included in the 11.7 scholarship limit. On the other hand, if the player is in the upper 10% of his high school class, or has a 3.5 unweighted GPA, or scores 1200/105, and his college awards academic money to all students with similar academic credentials, his academic scholarship doesn't count, and can't be included in the 25%. (I suppose that a school could simply decline to claim the academic exception, but that won't save anything from the 11.7. It would just lower the cost to the baseball program and raise the cost to the college's general fund.) So a player could in principle receive just 5% from the baseball program, but only if his academic aid (20% or more) is not recognized as such by the NCAA.

If a coach has decided that a player is worth 25%, and that player can be expected to receive a similar amount of academic money, he might choose to not offer athletic aid. However, I guess that most offer athletic money without considering possible academic aid.

I'm not sure I understand the last question. I'll assume that the player gets academic money, but no baseball money. Of course, any academic scholarship should be in writing. And the baseball coach could, if he wanted to, write a promise that the player would have a roster spot. There is no way to enforce that, however.