Wanting o see if you as parents (if you know sons scores) or players, did you take the ACT test twice and if so did your score go up or down?
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I will tell this story again, since I believe it had great impact on our own journey...
Junior had taken the ACT without tutoring. Then went to an ACT class recommended by the HS...no score improvement. Then went to private tutor highly recommended in our area...no score improvement.
West Point wanted him but told him he needed a better English score (Very good Math & Sciences scores). The Mrs. and I sat down with Junior and asked him, "Who's the best English teacher you ever had?" It didn't take one second of thought, it was his Frosh teacher. Called her up and asked if she did ACT tutoring, said she had in the past a little and was willing to take Junior on. 6 hours of tutoring and his English score went up 6 points and his overall score increased 4 points.
The moral to our story was that in spite of doing "all the right things", it took someone that Junior connected with in order to reach him to get the scores to increase.
Junior had taken the ACT without tutoring. Then went to an ACT class recommended by the HS...no score improvement. Then went to private tutor highly recommended in our area...no score improvement.
West Point wanted him but told him he needed a better English score (Very good Math & Sciences scores). The Mrs. and I sat down with Junior and asked him, "Who's the best English teacher you ever had?" It didn't take one second of thought, it was his Frosh teacher. Called her up and asked if she did ACT tutoring, said she had in the past a little and was willing to take Junior on. 6 hours of tutoring and his English score went up 6 points and his overall score increased 4 points.
The moral to our story was that in spite of doing "all the right things", it took someone that Junior connected with in order to reach him to get the scores to increase.
good post CPL...
my daughter took the ACT 3 times.. the second time there was a measurable increase. The third time the composite score remained the same while the subject scores varied.
It is generally accepted that girls score better on the ACT than the SAT.. this was the case with us. We were alerted to this by a coach who was recruiting her.
This is JMO but since the ACT is a knowledge based test it is one I believe you can study for. The SAT is a reasoning test and studying isnt as valuable.
my daughter took the ACT 3 times.. the second time there was a measurable increase. The third time the composite score remained the same while the subject scores varied.
It is generally accepted that girls score better on the ACT than the SAT.. this was the case with us. We were alerted to this by a coach who was recruiting her.
This is JMO but since the ACT is a knowledge based test it is one I believe you can study for. The SAT is a reasoning test and studying isnt as valuable.
I can't answer your question yet since my son won't be taking the test for a second time until February but here is information regarding retesting from the ACT website:
Research shows that of the students who took the ACT more than once:
•55% increased their Composite score on the retest
•22% had no change in their Composite score on the retest
•23% decreased their Composite score on the retest
Research shows that of the students who took the ACT more than once:
•55% increased their Composite score on the retest
•22% had no change in their Composite score on the retest
•23% decreased their Composite score on the retest
Are you having your kids also take the SAT? Whay the need for both if so?
Eric,
Check with the school that your son is interested in. Some schools will take the best result in each particular subject, not just the best composite.
For example:
first test - math 24 science 22 english 20
second test - math 23 science 24 english 20
totals accepted by school - math 24 science 24 english 20
I'm not sure, but I think they might refer to it as a super score.
My son did take the test twice. Before the first test, we had him take a class offered at the high school. It was the kind of class that emphasized test taking strategy, and how to eliminate answers that you feel are incorrect. He scored a 26. He needed a 27 to qualify for the highest academic award offered by the school he was interested in. We waited a few months and took the test again in the winter of his senior year. He scored a 28.
Check with the school that your son is interested in. Some schools will take the best result in each particular subject, not just the best composite.
For example:
first test - math 24 science 22 english 20
second test - math 23 science 24 english 20
totals accepted by school - math 24 science 24 english 20
I'm not sure, but I think they might refer to it as a super score.
My son did take the test twice. Before the first test, we had him take a class offered at the high school. It was the kind of class that emphasized test taking strategy, and how to eliminate answers that you feel are incorrect. He scored a 26. He needed a 27 to qualify for the highest academic award offered by the school he was interested in. We waited a few months and took the test again in the winter of his senior year. He scored a 28.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bothsportsdad:
It is generally accepted that girls score better on the ACT than the SAT.. [QUOTE]
Interesting...I've never heard that. What most say is if you are more Math/Science inclined, you'll generally do better on the ACT than the SAT. But most also say boys are generally better at Math/Science. Conclusion...don't assume generalities apply to you!
It is generally accepted that girls score better on the ACT than the SAT.. [QUOTE]
Interesting...I've never heard that. What most say is if you are more Math/Science inclined, you'll generally do better on the ACT than the SAT. But most also say boys are generally better at Math/Science. Conclusion...don't assume generalities apply to you!
quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bothsportsdad:
It is generally accepted that girls score better on the ACT than the SAT.. [QUOTE]
Interesting...I've never heard that. What most say is if you are more Math/Science inclined, you'll generally do better on the ACT than the SAT. But most also say boys are generally better at Math/Science. Conclusion...don't assume generalities apply to you!
ask any college coach of a women's sport...
Who is "most"? The SAT is more geared to minds inclined to math and science. I think you are backwards here... there are specific subject tests on the ACT... the math portion isnt any more "inclined" as a portion of the whole than any other subject on the test. Even the verbal portion on the SAT contains analytical reasoning, however.
There has been talk for a long time that the SAT is gender biased.
Three of my children have taken the ACT so far.....each of them scored their best the first time they took it. The three of them, 2 boys and 1 girl, took the test 3 times.....all of them had scored differently on each of the subject tests they took....but again, their composite score was the highest the first time they took it. Could it have been lower pressure knowing that they could take the test again? And then they all took it with the sole purpose of increasing their scores--and didn't do as well. Pressure? Maybe...
I think I saw a website that shows which schools "super score" the ACT---unfortunately, none of the schools that they attend(ed) or are interested in (my hs senior daughter) accept a "super score". Bummer.
Oh, the son who took ACT classes was the one who scored the poorest of the three....go figure.
I think I saw a website that shows which schools "super score" the ACT---unfortunately, none of the schools that they attend(ed) or are interested in (my hs senior daughter) accept a "super score". Bummer.
Oh, the son who took ACT classes was the one who scored the poorest of the three....go figure.
quote:Originally posted by play baseball:
Three of my children have taken the ACT so far.....each of them scored their best the first time they took it. The three of them, 2 boys and 1 girl, took the test 3 times.....all of them had scored differently on each of the subject tests they took....but again, their composite score was the highest the first time they took it. Could it have been lower pressure knowing that they could take the test again? And then they all took it with the sole purpose of increasing their scores--and didn't do as well. Pressure? Maybe...
I think I saw a website that shows which schools "super score" the ACT---unfortunately, none of the schools that they attend(ed) or are interested in (my hs senior daughter) accept a "super score". Bummer.
Oh, the son who took ACT classes was the one who scored the poorest of the three....go figure.
I am not sure any school super scores the ACT. Its the SAT that gets super scored.
Some do. I'll try to find the website that lists them. My daughter did not take the SAT, so she would not have looked for schools that do.
I recall being told by Wash. U. in St. Louis that they super scored ACTs.
I took it twice, and had the same composite both times. The first time I had the lowest combination of subscores I could get to reach that particular composite, and the next I had the highest subscores I could have without moving to the next composite. With super scoring I would have had a point higher composite.
I took it twice, and had the same composite both times. The first time I had the lowest combination of subscores I could get to reach that particular composite, and the next I had the highest subscores I could have without moving to the next composite. With super scoring I would have had a point higher composite.
Both of my kids retook the ACT and raised their composite scores 2 points the second time. I also felt like the individual subjects were true reflections of their individual strengths. Both took ACT prep class in HS before their first attempts. I don't recall either doing anything in between first and second attempts. It's certainly valuable to retake... nothing to lose other than the cost of the test.
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Happy New Year to you!
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Jr. Took PSAT as Sophomore w/o review and the score states the estimated ACT/SAT scores if taken. Their school requires them to take PSAT 2x. He re-took it again this past OCtober with some 1 day review and will get his scores first week of 2011.
Currently will prepare for SAT/ACT testing soon.
My Plan:
Compare the 2 PSAT scores (Sophomore vs Junior) and will observe if the estimated ACT/SAT scores will reflect his scores when he takes the ACT in 2/11 and SAT 3/11 (both for the first time)
My Question:
For those who have just recently been through this..Does the estimated ACT/SAT scores from the PSAT results reflect the actual ACT/SAT scores?
Just curious.
Currently will prepare for SAT/ACT testing soon.
My Plan:
Compare the 2 PSAT scores (Sophomore vs Junior) and will observe if the estimated ACT/SAT scores will reflect his scores when he takes the ACT in 2/11 and SAT 3/11 (both for the first time)
My Question:
For those who have just recently been through this..Does the estimated ACT/SAT scores from the PSAT results reflect the actual ACT/SAT scores?
Just curious.
According to the ACT website, 55% of those that take the test over score higher.
quote:Originally posted by Ryanrod23:
Jr. Took PSAT as Sophomore w/o review and the score states the estimated ACT/SAT scores if taken. Their school requires them to take PSAT 2x. He re-took it again this past OCtober with some 1 day review and will get his scores first week of 2011.
Currently will prepare for SAT/ACT testing soon.
My Plan:
Compare the 2 PSAT scores (Sophomore vs Junior) and will observe if the estimated ACT/SAT scores will reflect his scores when he takes the ACT in 2/11 and SAT 3/11 (both for the first time)
My Question:
For those who have just recently been through this..Does the estimated ACT/SAT scores from the PSAT results reflect the actual ACT/SAT scores?
Just curious.
My son scored much higher on the ACT than what the PSAT predicted.
In my experience my ACT score went up the second time. I've found that to be the case with most of my friends too.
For me, the hardest part of it is focusing because it's so boring!
Stu
For me, the hardest part of it is focusing because it's so boring!
Stu
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Boring? You don't know what boring is. Back when I took the ACT they didn't ask you to bring a couple of sharp No.2 pencils. No, they made you drag one of these...
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Boring? You don't know what boring is. Back when I took the ACT they didn't ask you to bring a couple of sharp No.2 pencils. No, they made you drag one of these...
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This is the website that I remember which lists the colleges that super score the ACT. Obviously, I would contact the admissions counselor for each individual school that you are interested in, and this may not be a complete list, but it is a good head start, anyway.
play baseball,
Thanks for sharing this awesome website. My first shot looking at this site well it was over 1 hour.
The info on that site is fantastic for parents with any high school age child.
Our plan for the tests:
jr sandlot took both in early December with a little studying of directions and pre tests from the books you can buy. I wanted to see his motivation level after he took the tests since he is thinking ivy or top guys like northwestern, stanford, UC's , or michigan.
He did ok scores but not ok enough for the schools above. But he still wants it so now we will invest in an on line act study course and personal english tutoring and then see how he does in April.
Best part of doing well on these tests is the placement out of non credit prep classes. A key for those here is that any class taken in college prior to the "legit" credit courses does not count in year 3 and on for eligibility. They do count for year one and two eligibility. After yr 2 and beginning year 3 the student needs 40% (48 to 52 credits) of graduation credits in their major of choice. So this can really help the player avoid summer school and then participate in the fun college leagues.
Sorry if I confused anyone.
Thanks for sharing this awesome website. My first shot looking at this site well it was over 1 hour.
The info on that site is fantastic for parents with any high school age child.
Our plan for the tests:
jr sandlot took both in early December with a little studying of directions and pre tests from the books you can buy. I wanted to see his motivation level after he took the tests since he is thinking ivy or top guys like northwestern, stanford, UC's , or michigan.
He did ok scores but not ok enough for the schools above. But he still wants it so now we will invest in an on line act study course and personal english tutoring and then see how he does in April.
Best part of doing well on these tests is the placement out of non credit prep classes. A key for those here is that any class taken in college prior to the "legit" credit courses does not count in year 3 and on for eligibility. They do count for year one and two eligibility. After yr 2 and beginning year 3 the student needs 40% (48 to 52 credits) of graduation credits in their major of choice. So this can really help the player avoid summer school and then participate in the fun college leagues.
Sorry if I confused anyone.