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Men on first and third.  One out.  High chopper back to the pitcher.  Ball ALMOST but not quite gets over the pitcher's head.  Runner on third breaks for home immediately.  Pitcher throws ball home, runner out easily in a run down.  Man on first is safe at second and the batter is safe at first, now with 2 outs.

 

When asked why he broke for home, the baserunner said he wanted to keep the defensive team from getting a double play, i.e., pitcher to short to first, which would have ended the inning.  

 

I have never heard of this strategy before.  It seems to me to amount to sacrificing a potential run to avoid a potential double play.  What I was taught was that if you were the runner on third in this situation (less than two outs) you had to make sure a ball hit straight back to the pitcher was either through, or you waited until the throw was made to first, and then take your chances and take off. 

 

If I were coaching him, I would have said freeze and make the defense get that double play.  I would not have sent the guy home.

 

Ideas, anyone?

"Don't be mean now because remember: Wherever you go, there you are..." Buckaroo Banzai

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The base runner made the right decision.

 

We just had a long discussion on this very situation in the thread called "Quiz-Base Running."

 

If you go by probability of scoring in various situations, the base runner at third in a first and third situation is well advised to break hard for home on a come backer to the mound regardless of the number of outs.

 

 

Thanks for your answers, Iron Horse and SwampBoy.

 

I'm not understanding this, I guess.  Why is a 60 ft throw that a pitcher makes all the time (the throw home) a better scenario for the runner to break for home? Woudn't staying put and letting the play develop, a play where the pitcher makes a routine play to first, or makes a more difficult throw to second to try to start a double play. I guess I don't assume the double play is likely.  But, probability wise, you're suggesting it's more likely?  I didn't know that. 

 

I'll check out the other thread.  Don't mean to start a new one if it's been thoroughly discussed earlier.

I agree with the strategy basically because their's going to be at least out #2 (assuming the pitcher doesn't screw up making an out play) there's either going to be a runner in scoring position on 3rd or 2nd.  A single will drive in a runner from 2nd with 2 outs.  So, putting pressure on the pitcher to make a decision and then execute a good fielding  play under that pressure (especially if it's a high slow chopper).    And if you've got a good base runners you could very well wind up with two base runners in scoring position during a rundown between 3rd and home.

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