Went to one for baseball this week, and turned out to be a big waste of time for waking up at 5.00AM. Wasn't organized at all, and everybody just seemed like they hated it.
Anybody else having this trouble or tips to fix this?
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The coach can not organize an open gym. It is up to the players to do so. I never kept roll but know that some coaches do which is also against the rules. I offered it as an opportunity for players to workout and be ready for that first day.
My son's high school coach didn't attend (against the rules). But he unlocked the doors so he could see who walked through them.
Im at ours to supervise only. I can't instruct at all... I can't even tell the players what to do.
Originally Posted by Coach_Sampson:
Im at ours to supervise only. I can't instruct at all... I can't even tell the players what to do.
This is exactly what my son's high school coach does for open gym after school. Seniors run the open gym workout twice a week. Coach supervises to make sure no one hurts themselves...no coaching. In addition they have a Saturday workout (run by high school alumni in the minor leagues) at a local baseball academy. Son sees a private instructor (in the minor leagues) on Wednesday who has done a masterful job with him. I've been incredibly impressed with his approach and results. My youngest son is a late bloomer, and he has made another leap in the off-season. He's worked very hard at it is showing. The Open Gyms and everything else has been extremely worthwhile. JMO
Originally Posted by Ferris16:
Went to one for baseball this week, and turned out to be a big waste of time for waking up at 5.00AM. Wasn't organized at all, and everybody just seemed like they hated it.
Anybody else having this trouble or tips to fix this?
Sounds like u get out of it what u put into it. You will start to see who is serious about playing at next level and who isn't. Seems unproductive not to know
what to do. There needs to be a "list" of things to complete and a mature senior to run things.
What facilities do they have available? Ill make a list for you.
My son's school has two gyms available to the team. Working out is up to the players but the staff does give IF's,OF's and pitchers a regiment to work on for each player. Has worked out well for Jr as he is in best shape since his junior year in HS. Old saying,, you get out what you put in.
I guess my son is lucky in that team has conditioning coach available during workouts. Asst coach also observes on occasion. According to son, basically three types: the guys who work at it, the guys who try to look like they're working at it, and the guys who shuffle along and/or miss.
Overall I think it's a positive, but wife thinks 3 mornings a week getting up at 5am is tough for HS students. She cites studies showing that teens in particular need that early morning sleep.
My son is not allowed to attend his as he is still playing basketball. Our school has a rule that kids currently playing in a sport can not attend open gyms. Nor can them not attending be held against them. Its to keep the kids from getting injured during a season. He is a freshman this year. According to the folks I've talked with the older kids are running things and do a decent job. Though its all conditioning from what I hear and no baseball skill stuff.
The majority of the more serious kids have been working out most of the winter with their travel teams. In addition to playing basketball my son has been hitting the cages once or twice a week since October, working with a pitching coach every other week since October, throwing once a week, and travel team infield practice since November for 2 hours a week. He will also occasionally attend an infield session with a private coach a lot of his travel team is attending. The camp conflicts with his Friday basketball practice so that is hit or miss for him.
Anyway, other then showing the coaches that he wants to play on the team the open gym does not offer much for him. If he wasn't prohibited from attending he would be there just to show his dedication to the team.
Originally Posted by RJM:
My son's high school coach didn't attend (against the rules). But he unlocked the doors so he could see who walked through them.
That's beautiful!
Son's school has hitting with the Head Coach 2 mornings a week at 6:30 AM, and two Bullpen's and a "Dry Day" with the Pitching Coach. This started in January. Tryouts are later this month.
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:
I guess my son is lucky in that team has conditioning coach available during workouts. Asst coach also observes on occasion. According to son, basically three types: the guys who work at it, the guys who try to look like they're working at it, and the guys who shuffle along and/or miss.
Overall I think it's a positive, but wife thinks 3 mornings a week getting up at 5am is tough for HS students. She cites studies showing that teens in particular need that early morning sleep.
Tell it to 18 yr olds in the Army.
Our HS swimmers get up that early to practice before school. If an athlete wants it bad enough they will adjust schedule to make it work.
Originally Posted by playball2011:
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:
I guess my son is lucky in that team has conditioning coach available during workouts. Asst coach also observes on occasion. According to son, basically three types: the guys who work at it, the guys who try to look like they're working at it, and the guys who shuffle along and/or miss.
Overall I think it's a positive, but wife thinks 3 mornings a week getting up at 5am is tough for HS students. She cites studies showing that teens in particular need that early morning sleep.
Tell it to 18 yr olds in the Army.
Our HS swimmers get up that early to practice before school. If an athlete wants it bad enough they will adjust schedule to make it work.
Two completely different situations. Not a good comparison.
Originally Posted by playball2011:
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:
I guess my son is lucky in that team has conditioning coach available during workouts. Asst coach also observes on occasion. According to son, basically three types: the guys who work at it, the guys who try to look like they're working at it, and the guys who shuffle along and/or miss.
Overall I think it's a positive, but wife thinks 3 mornings a week getting up at 5am is tough for HS students. She cites studies showing that teens in particular need that early morning sleep.
Tell it to 18 yr olds in the Army.
Our HS swimmers get up that early to practice before school. If an athlete wants it bad enough they will adjust schedule to make it work.
Playball11 - For the record, my son has had no complaints. He works his a$$ off as an athlete and also maintains a 4.0 in all honors/AP class schedule, I'm very proud to say. I obviously made no comparison whatsoever with US Military service. There was no call for your over the top response... this is a simple discussion about HS workouts.
My son's school has workout days but they are very scary. There are a lot of kids in there using bad form and subjecting their bodies to injury with no one watching or supervising. My son is fine bc he's been through several training programs and knows what to do. But, when the less experienced lifters try to follow him he feels like he becomes the trainer....a lot of responsibility for him. And, it takes away from his own workout. So, what happens is he attends the workout, does some lifting then makes a B-line to his own gym immediately after for the "real workout".
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:
Originally Posted by playball2011:
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:
I guess my son is lucky in that team has conditioning coach available during workouts. Asst coach also observes on occasion. According to son, basically three types: the guys who work at it, the guys who try to look like they're working at it, and the guys who shuffle along and/or miss.
Overall I think it's a positive, but wife thinks 3 mornings a week getting up at 5am is tough for HS students. She cites studies showing that teens in particular need that early morning sleep.
Tell it to 18 yr olds in the Army.
Our HS swimmers get up that early to practice before school. If an athlete wants it bad enough they will adjust schedule to make it work.
Playball11 - For the record, my son has had no complaints. He works his a$$ off as an athlete and also maintains a 4.0 in all honors/AP class schedule, I'm very proud to say. I obviously made no comparison whatsoever with US Military service. There was no call for your over the top response... this is a simple discussion about HS workouts.
No it's about helicopter parents complaining about 17-18 yr olds needing sleep and should not be required to go in early to work out. That's how I took it. It's not going to kill my son to get up early a few days a wk days a week during season to condition If that's the only time they can do it. I talked to a college rower recently and they told me they r on the water by 6am. The military remark was to show that 18 yr olds can do amazing things. It was not a personal slam against your son.
Playball11 - No it's about you making ridiculous assumptions and irresponsible comments and directing them at me specifically when you don't know the first thing about who you're lecturing. That's how I take it. My son just turned 16. He's not in college and he's not in the army. He studies late into the night frequently to maintain his grades, then blows out of here by 5:15 to go lift three mornings a week. Then a day of classes... all honors and an AP... followed by practice until dark each weeknight. So these days he leaves the house before sunrise and we see him again after sunset. Not exactly the definition of helicopter parents... More like a helicopter kid. Thats right, many HS athletes do this. And many more don't. He's not complaining about it and we're not complaining about it.
Wasn't my intention to make this about my son, but you directed your comments at me specifically for some reason. I don't appreciate it.