Anybody here make the list?

Son's team did not make it, but I wish they had like a Top 200 or Top 500 like they have for individuals. It would be interesting to see if they would make it.

I will be in CA next week and may walk over to see #5 scrimmage.  It will be interesting to see the CA talent at this school.  

(Rob T, I am so sorry for your recent loss.)  

They're top dogs in our District... We lost District Championship game 2-0 to them last Spring, they went on to win State 8A title... Best team we played all year last year... Great tradition there too...

keewart,

They are legit. Most of us around here think they are the evil empire. Wait until you see the facilities, its like a DI college. 

Thanks, it still feels strange going to the field without him.

Same with the two I mentioned. One had facilities bankrolled by a former Pro, and the other is a private school with nearly $30,000 a year tuition.

The joke is that those players are going to be upset when they arrive at college to play because the facilities are going to be the slums in comparison to what they used to play in. 

Sons HS team opens the season with a double header against one of these teams.

The omission of defending VA state champ Hanover, which won last year with a bunch of underclassmen (at that time) and which returns almost everyone from that team and then some, will have to be fixed as the season moves along.

My son's high school rival and division rival is #16. We swept all 3 games against them last year including the game at Petco Park The number 12 team is not on our schedule right now.However, we will play at least 4 games in the Lion's tournament over spring break and that team is always in this event.

Number 16's facilities are the best in SoCal. They are very competitive in every sport.

Salisbury School is the only school on the list from VA to ME. 

#43 is legit, Org. my son plays for in the summer has a number of kids that play for that school.  I would assume PG uses there data base of committed and prospect lists that allows them to develop this top 50.....pretty reasonable IMO

Speaking of making the list... Too bad the PG top 100 Prospect Lists cost $20  per month to view.  I would love to see if any of the kids from around here are on them, but that's a bit rich for my blood.

#25 is in my sons HS District this year.  He will get at least one shot at them on the bump, can't wait for that game.  The down side is I will be at his brothers JV game that day

Our sons HS team plays 4 of those teams in the top 29, the highest ranked being # 2 and # 3. They have a pretty mean out of conference schedule. Son will be pitching against 1 if not 2 of those teams. Should be fun.

I sent you a dialog JCG

The #1 team has two brothers that are some of the best HS pitchers that you'll see.

I'm sure these are good teams and there are good players on all of them. I also question why, year after year, these ranked lists consist nearly 100% of teams from Florida, Texas, California, the Carolinas, and Arizona.  Really?  ALMOST ALL OF THEM?  Then why is Oregon State (with almost no kids from those states) ranked #3 in the country?  Why is Oregon right behind them?  Why is Washington state #6 in number of guys drafted in the past 10 years?  Where is the rest of the USA on Perfect Games radar?  The individual rankings reflect the same idea.  I realize that conventional wisdom says that "it's sunny, kids play year round" - which is outdated at best, and irrelevant at worst.  It's a bias, pure and simple, and it needs to change based on current reality.  PG misses kids, simply because they live north of California or Florida, and old school baseball guys don't look as thoughtfully at kids as they should, simply because they don't look past or question old school ways.  This is deeply ingrained in baseball thinking, from showcases and huge tournaments held in Florida, North Carolina and Arizona (even when it's 120 in the summer!  Even when it rains every day in Florida!) to scouts not looking as closely at a kid who is from Michigan, or New Jersey, or Seattle. #seemiketroutifyoudontbelieveme

I just think it's odd.  Thanks for listening.

Uhhhh, you may want to look at the rosters of Oregon and OSU before you use them as your leading argument...  combine the two rosters and you have more California players than those from the home state of Oregon.. by a lot.

I'm not really arguing your point.  I'm just arguing your argument

I would be interested to see a list of the top HS teams by state or region as well.  Anyone know if there is such a thing?

I've seen #2 McCarthy play.(right down the street from us) They are the real deal. Returned their entire pitching staff from last year's state championship team.

Sources say #21 American Heritage beat up pretty good on the PG #1 2016 pitcher last night. Sweet revenge I guess because that pitcher transferred out of Heritage earlier this year.

LOL!!!

22 kids from Cali on Oregon's 35-man Roster... 2 from Hawaii and AZ

15 kids from Cali on Washington's 35-man Roster... 1 from Hawaii

Maxpreps.

What’s really interesting, is if you can get the organization making up this kind of list to give the algorithm and explain how they go about getting the different data to plug into it. The organizations making the MaxPreps rankings refuse to do either, saying those things are proprietary. Since there’s no “national” database for HSBB, a lot of work has to be done to even get scores, let alone team records, not to mention player stats.

http://vype.com/texas/2014/01/...hsbca-baseball-poll/

Do you have a specific player or team that you think is being excluded from consideration at Perfect Game?  I'm sure they would love to know if you do.  For what its worth, I know a few of the kids and the coach on the 34th ranked team, located in Connecticut.  It's a private school - I wonder how many of the schools on the list are private, which allows them to assemble players onto one team, as opposed to being limited to the kids who live in the district in a public setting. 

As far as PG finding and ranking players, we live in New Hampshire and my son is firmly within the PG Top 100 players ranking in his class.  One of his travel teammates is too.  Its harder to get exposed from a northern state, but it can be done.  I've never sensed any sort of bias against kids from states other than the ones you list.

Wake me up when the high school post season list is out and there are results. Prognosticating almost 15,000 (HSBBWeb's number) baseball teams across the country makes as much sense as watching grass grow.  Since there are no playoffs or national championship, I can't help to wonder if this is the brain child of the former College BCS people?  ;-)     This is the time of year when everybody gets crazy to see their first high school or college game (or both).  The anticipation of hearing ball on leather or ball on wood is making us crazy!.  Sorry, folks I can't bite on this one.  

Baseballlife,

if you really want not know why those states dominate, simply do the research. And regarding individual players, do the research there too.  Using Mike Trout is a bad example, because we saw him when he was in high school.  We also saw Matt Harvey, Pedro Alvarez, Rick Porcello, Rob Kaminsky, and most all the other top players from the NE states. 

Not sure what 120 degrees or raining has to do with anything. Personally I don't follow the high school teams, but I know who the top players are.  I notice the top teams and top players seem to have something in common.  How would you rankings a high school team that has 9 or 10 DI commits To SEC, Pac10 or ACC colleges?

Besides the rankings are meaningless for the most part.  No doubt, it is impossible to get any preseason list right in any sport at any level. But it does create interest and the schools listed aren't just pulled out of a hat. 

BTW, something like 60% of all draft picks come from 3 states.  I will let you guess which states those are.  Seeing that professional baseball has scouts everywhere and of course they want the best players... Does that tell you anything? There is no conspiracy going on. There are good players everywhere and we see most of them.  That can be proven!  However there are simply more good players and better teams in California, Florida, and Texas.  Could add Georgia to that list. It's just the way it is!

all that said I'm sure there are many deserving teams that weren't listed.  But even at that, chances are that most of those teams are still from the best baseball states. I would say that any of the top 50 teams in California, Texas, Florida, maybe even Georgia, could all be a top 100 type team nationally.

You have to see it, in order to understand it!

I can't imagine any reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...tories_by_population) why California, Texas, and Florida would be over-represented and Washington or Oregon would be underrepresented.

Never mind that the ability to play ball year round (or nearly so) is, in fact, an enormous advantage both in training ballplayers and in enticing athletes away from other sports.

The link didn't work, but if it's the "larger population" argument, not sure that holds up.  Obviously if it were due to the larger population, states like New York would be better represented.  States like the Carolinas would be lesser in importance.

I think it's a self perpetuating system that "proves" itself.  The big tournaments are in Florida, and thus easy for kids from Georgia, Florida, and the Carolinas to attend. They can drive rather than fly (which costs perhaps $700 from the west coast), which takes most of a day and a time change for kids from the other side of the country.  These local kids then get seen, they get experience at big venues, they get discussed, they get ranked, etc. Kids from Hawaii or Detroit don't as often get seen, don't get ranked, and don't get the experience that might get them seen, get them discussed, etc.

The "sun year round" argument probably has some merit.  But I'm not sure it's that relevant either.  Our weather is wet (I live in Washington), but fairly mild and kids play most of the year.  Perfect Game makes an admirable attempt to scout and measure kids across the nation, but an afternoon showcase doesn't really measure up to a major event.  And all the major events are in the same locations.

If we had a system that attempted to avoid regional bias, it would employ rotating tournaments, or centrally located ones (Colorado? Utah? Chicago?) that were equally easy/difficult to travel to from all regions. 

That being said, any excuse to go to Arizona in January is a good one .  I realize that my point of view is a minority argument, and challenges conventional baseball wisdom. Thanks again for listening.

California is twice the population of New York, Texas is 30% more, and they're both warm weather states, which in spite of your assertion is a factor.

Of the 10 most populated states, 5 are warm weather (CA, TX, FL, GA, NC), and 5 aren't (NY, IL, PA, OH, MI).  The population of the warm states is 104M, and the others is 67M.

Since 1960, almost 4.5 times as many people from CA have played in the majors as people from NY. SC beats out the more populous MN, WI, MD, and CO.

States with more people have more people playing baseball.  States with warmer weather have more people playing (more) baseball.  States with both have more people on these lists.  States with neither, don't.

Yup, four of my kids pitch for Puyallup., #47 on the list. They're ranked as high as #21 by other organizations.

Not that it really matters, I guess.

But the team should be pretty damn good. Rotation is Illies (2015 North Carolina commit), Heimlich (2015 Oregon State commit), and McDowell (2014 Washington State commit) with Hegland (2014 Edmonds CC) as the #4 and guy coming out of the pen. Lineup has a lot of D-I guys in it including Rawson (2014 New Mexico) and both McDowell and Illies are two-way prospects at their respective colleges.

No one from our district even made the list.  There is only one neighbouring school that did.  We won't ever play them, but he plays with and/or against most of them in summer ball.