I have noticed that the Asian players (Korea, Japan, etc...) have small players that are able to throw hard (mph) and have a rubber arm. What is the throwing program in these countries?
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A flat mound and daily throwing w/o effort.
Bob Williams
Goodwill Series [1983-2010]
Bob Williams
Goodwill Series [1983-2010]
This is a great post and I am glad to chime my .02 in here. I have done research into japanse pitchers throwing cycles, and I have found them to be no more beneficial than the cycles american pitchers use. For instance Dice K. He throws 120 pitch bullpens, same for Hideo Nomo, and Hideki Irabu. I have found that in the states these guys if you look at the numbers fail to go as deep into a game as regular starters, velocities drop more as there careers go on, and become less effective.
Hideo Nomo lost 5 MPH off of his fastball in 2 years. Now obviously we all lose velo as we move on in our careers, but if you look at the numbers, these guys happen to lose them at a quicker rate.
Hideo Nomo lost 5 MPH off of his fastball in 2 years. Now obviously we all lose velo as we move on in our careers, but if you look at the numbers, these guys happen to lose them at a quicker rate.
I don't know if it is true but I've heard that the Japanese pitchers only start every 6 days.
There's also a tendency at the early ages for kids in Japan to be weeded out by overuse. You tend to lose some real talent that way, but you do end up highlighting the ones with the rubber arms. Even rubber arms only last so long though.
There's also a tendency at the early ages for kids in Japan to be weeded out by overuse. You tend to lose some real talent that way, but you do end up highlighting the ones with the rubber arms. Even rubber arms only last so long though.
Our American teams have traveled to Japan since 1983.
We play the National High School All Star team.
Players are selected from the August Summer tournament. 40 million watch the games from Koshien on TV. Each game in Osaka attracts over 40,000 fans.
Pitcher often throw every day in the 2 week tournament. Every pitcher arm is x-ray before the Series to exam for injury. Our American teams include 140 players, who have played in MLB. The Japanese players H. Matsui and Fukudome played in our Goodwill Series.
In 1994 Goodwill Series XII in Korea, Matsui played against Torii Hunter, now on the same team.
The American pitcher is throwing off a "higher" mound than the Japanese, Chinese or Korean HS pitcher.
Because of his angular frame, he will need
a longer time between starts. The Japanese pitcher will throw between innings in front of the dugout to keep his body in harmony with his mind.
High School baseball in Japan is now in the 90th year and the 4,000 high school teams play on tournaments, but practice 7 days each week for 6 months until Koshien.
The Perfecture [States] Stadiums seat 20,000 people. During our visits, I was invited to dedicate two new stadiums.
Bob Williams
We play the National High School All Star team.
Players are selected from the August Summer tournament. 40 million watch the games from Koshien on TV. Each game in Osaka attracts over 40,000 fans.
Pitcher often throw every day in the 2 week tournament. Every pitcher arm is x-ray before the Series to exam for injury. Our American teams include 140 players, who have played in MLB. The Japanese players H. Matsui and Fukudome played in our Goodwill Series.
In 1994 Goodwill Series XII in Korea, Matsui played against Torii Hunter, now on the same team.
The American pitcher is throwing off a "higher" mound than the Japanese, Chinese or Korean HS pitcher.
Because of his angular frame, he will need
a longer time between starts. The Japanese pitcher will throw between innings in front of the dugout to keep his body in harmony with his mind.
High School baseball in Japan is now in the 90th year and the 4,000 high school teams play on tournaments, but practice 7 days each week for 6 months until Koshien.
The Perfecture [States] Stadiums seat 20,000 people. During our visits, I was invited to dedicate two new stadiums.
Bob Williams
Thanks Bob,
Very interesting post from a guy who has really played a part!
Very interesting post from a guy who has really played a part!
