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Son newly 16 decided to try another sport for the winter season. The conditoning is fairly intense lots of sprinting and weight training 2 1/2 to 3 hours a day 5-6x days. He's made good progress over the past month but the workouts are grueling.

He's athletic but used to training for baseball not other sports.

Left to his own devices he tends to train hard in spurts and then every few weeks or month he crashes hard needs extra sleep or gets a little sick and can miss a day or two of school. He's taking creatine,  a multi vitamin and eats alot of protein.  He probably does eat too much sugar. We try to encourage sleeping as much as possible but sometimes I find him wandering around the house late at night. So he probably getting 7 hours a night on weekdays.

It's like he either goes full throttle or he's flat on his back exhausted.

Any tips to help with recovery? He's put on nearly 20 lbs of muscle this year so I know alot is changing inside his body. Is this type of exhaustion normal for an athlete?

He's a pretty healthy kid and he's  not overweight.

Any tips to help with recovery?

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idk, my son is 16 and I am not having him take creatine.  No reason too.  He works out hard, not that as long as your son, also not in a sport besides baseball right now.  He does go to bed early when he's tired or when he has to get up in the morning.  He should be drinking 1/2 his body weight in OZ of water every day.  Stay away from processed food including sugar.  My son has put on 15 lbs of muscle in the last 10 mos or so and hasn't skipped a beat.  Eats super healthy and drinks water and or milk.  No processed foods at all.  His commitment to eating healthy has us all eating healthy and feeling better

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5469049/

International Society of Sports Nutrition position stand: safety and efficacy of creatine supplementation in exercise, sport, and medicine

  • Creatine monohydrate is the most effective ergogenic nutritional supplement currently available to athletes with the intent of increasing high-intensity exercise capacity and lean body mass during training.

  • Creatine monohydrate supplementation is not only safe, but has been reported to have a number of therapeutic benefits in healthy and diseased populations ranging from infants to the elderly. There is no compelling scientific evidence that the short- or long-term use of creatine monohydrate (up to 30 g/day for 5 years) has any detrimental effects on otherwise healthy individuals or among clinical populations who may benefit from creatine supplementation.

  • If proper precautions and supervision are provided, creatine monohydrate supplementation in children and adolescent athletes is acceptable and may provide a nutritional alternative with a favorable safety profile to potentially dangerous anabolic androgenic drugs. However, we recommend that creatine supplementation only be considered for use by younger athletes who: a.) are involved in serious/competitive supervised training; b.) are consuming a well-balanced and performance enhancing diet; c.) are knowledgeable about appropriate use of creatine; and d.) do not exceed recommended dosages.

  • Label advisories on creatine products that caution against usage by those under 18 years old, while perhaps intended to insulate their manufacturers from legal liability, are likely unnecessary given the science supporting creatine’s safety, including in children and adolescents.

Creatine is one of the most studied supplements there is. It's likely beneficial for teenagers to the elderly; athlete or not. Anecdotal but I've consistently taken it for 20+ years.

Multivitamins, unless you're deficient in something are usually a waste of money. Even if you are deficient in something you're better off taking what you need vs. a multivitamin. Easy to track if you regularly get bloodwork done.

Pediatricians like most general physicians have very limited knowledge when it comes to nutrition. For example if your teenage son does strength training, and puts on muscle they will likely have an elevated BMI (outdated metric) which your pediatrician will warn you against. While I'm not saying don't listen to your doctor, speaking with a nutritionist is likely beneficial.

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@Dadof3 posted:

idk, my son is 16 and I am not having him take creatine.  No reason too.  He works out hard, not that as long as your son, also not in a sport besides baseball right now.  He does go to bed early when he's tired or when he has to get up in the morning.  He should be drinking 1/2 his body weight in OZ of water every day.  Stay away from processed food including sugar.  My son has put on 15 lbs of muscle in the last 10 mos or so and hasn't skipped a beat.  Eats super healthy and drinks water and or milk.  No processed foods at all.  His commitment to eating healthy has us all eating healthy and feeling better

Is he drinking raw milk? If not it's processed.

If your player is serious about playing baseball in college, I think getting professionally evaluated and paying a few hundred bucks for a custom program is worthwhile.  The plan will include recovery days.   My son told me that because everyone is so different, customs are the only way to go.  I know it can be a little expensive up front, but it might help down the line to prevent an overuse injury.

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Is this not perfectly normal? I would imagine training hard 3 hours a day 6 days a week is going to be taxing for anybody. Especially if it's a new sport and it's not routine at this point.

Just use that off day to recover, hydrate properly, and rest. The only sport I know where training is going to be that difficult that often is wrestling. Being uncomfortable and constantly pushing yourself if the entire premise of that sport.

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